| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? 13:18 - Jun 9 with 2381 views | trampie |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 15:31 - Jun 9 with 1115 views | Boundy |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 15:45 - Jun 9 with 1104 views | Flashberryjack |
Frying pan into the fire. |  |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 15:57 - Jun 9 with 1086 views | Whiterockin |
Too early to tell, manifestos are not even out yet. When people wake up to Plaid forming a coalition with Labour those percentages will change. |  | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 16:31 - Jun 9 with 1054 views | trampie |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 15:57 - Jun 9 by Whiterockin |
Too early to tell, manifestos are not even out yet. When people wake up to Plaid forming a coalition with Labour those percentages will change. |
Most of the parties would want to win without forming a coalition and probably no parties are going to negotiate coalitions before the election so it won't be a concern for most of the public if Conservatives and Reform form a coalition or Plaid/Greens/Lib-Dems form a coalition etc. | |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 16:36 - Jun 9 with 1049 views | Whiterockin |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 16:31 - Jun 9 by trampie |
Most of the parties would want to win without forming a coalition and probably no parties are going to negotiate coalitions before the election so it won't be a concern for most of the public if Conservatives and Reform form a coalition or Plaid/Greens/Lib-Dems form a coalition etc. |
Those with an ounce of sense would realise a Plaid/Labour coalition will mean no change in the Senedd. Very few want that.
The opening post said that Labour voters are changing to Plaid. Will they do that if they think they are letting Labour back in. It makes no real sense. [Post edited 9 Jun 16:38]
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 17:02 - Jun 9 with 1013 views | trampie |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 16:36 - Jun 9 by Whiterockin |
Those with an ounce of sense would realise a Plaid/Labour coalition will mean no change in the Senedd. Very few want that.
The opening post said that Labour voters are changing to Plaid. Will they do that if they think they are letting Labour back in. It makes no real sense. [Post edited 9 Jun 16:38]
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Most results would end up with coalitions having to be formed better that Plaid have the whip hand than Labour/Conservatives/Reform/etc | |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 17:30 - Jun 9 with 992 views | johnlangy |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 16:36 - Jun 9 by Whiterockin |
Those with an ounce of sense would realise a Plaid/Labour coalition will mean no change in the Senedd. Very few want that.
The opening post said that Labour voters are changing to Plaid. Will they do that if they think they are letting Labour back in. It makes no real sense. [Post edited 9 Jun 16:38]
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Wrong in my opinion.
When they were in coalition before Plaid were the smaller party and had to make do with what they could persuade Labour to accept from their policies. If Plaid are the larger party in coalition it will work the other way and Plaid will get most things their way.
And they won't be sucking up to Labour in Westminster. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 17:37 - Jun 9 with 987 views | union_jack |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 16:36 - Jun 9 by Whiterockin |
Those with an ounce of sense would realise a Plaid/Labour coalition will mean no change in the Senedd. Very few want that.
The opening post said that Labour voters are changing to Plaid. Will they do that if they think they are letting Labour back in. It makes no real sense. [Post edited 9 Jun 16:38]
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The problem lies very much in your first sentence. |  |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:03 - Jun 9 with 967 views | Whiterockin |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 17:30 - Jun 9 by johnlangy |
Wrong in my opinion.
When they were in coalition before Plaid were the smaller party and had to make do with what they could persuade Labour to accept from their policies. If Plaid are the larger party in coalition it will work the other way and Plaid will get most things their way.
And they won't be sucking up to Labour in Westminster. |
So you think the voters leaving Labour and turning to Plaid will be happy with a Labour coalition. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:29 - Jun 9 with 947 views | trampie |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:03 - Jun 9 by Whiterockin |
So you think the voters leaving Labour and turning to Plaid will be happy with a Labour coalition. |
If they leave Labour and vote Plaid and Plaid are the biggest party they should be happy. | |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:35 - Jun 9 with 934 views | Whiterockin |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:29 - Jun 9 by trampie |
If they leave Labour and vote Plaid and Plaid are the biggest party they should be happy. |
That doesn't answer my question and is not what I am hearing. Let's wait and see. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:51 - Jun 9 with 906 views | johnlangy |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:03 - Jun 9 by Whiterockin |
So you think the voters leaving Labour and turning to Plaid will be happy with a Labour coalition. |
Well if they leave Labour and vote Plaid and then Plaid get say 80% of their policies through as compared with Labour's 20% then yes. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:59 - Jun 9 with 905 views | shingle |
These Plaid Cymru lot are barking mad go and take a look at Llinos Medi on BBC question time, dear god there is no hope for us, it`s pretty much proven now that Wales will continue to go downhill with either Labour or Plaid at the helm so i would like to see Reform have a crack, and if they turn out to be a waste of time then we are in the same boat anyway in having three inept and useless political party`s to worry about | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:05 - Jun 9 with 893 views | trampie |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:51 - Jun 9 by johnlangy |
Well if they leave Labour and vote Plaid and then Plaid get say 80% of their policies through as compared with Labour's 20% then yes. |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:07 - Jun 9 with 890 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 17:02 - Jun 9 by trampie |
Most results would end up with coalitions having to be formed better that Plaid have the whip hand than Labour/Conservatives/Reform/etc |
It's not often I agree with Trampie but I do on this. When Labour were the senior partner Plaid got crumbs, it'll be the same for Labour if Plaid are senior partner.
Better for everybody if the vast majority of Labour voters went elsewhere. We've had enough if Labour in Wales. If Labour aren't going to win are labour voters going to happily give Reform a lot of seats?
Time for tactial voting, give up on Labour and give Plaid a majority. It's Rhun ap Iorwerth Or Farage. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:08 - Jun 9 with 883 views | max936 |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:59 - Jun 9 by shingle |
These Plaid Cymru lot are barking mad go and take a look at Llinos Medi on BBC question time, dear god there is no hope for us, it`s pretty much proven now that Wales will continue to go downhill with either Labour or Plaid at the helm so i would like to see Reform have a crack, and if they turn out to be a waste of time then we are in the same boat anyway in having three inept and useless political party`s to worry about |
Wales cannot afford another shambles of a Welsh Government at the Senedd, Drakeford has ruined Wales and has held Wales back for all the years he's been Welsh Labours leader even worse than those who went before him.
I've no faith in Reform in Wales they will be another disaster Wales, but I've no faith in any of the leading parties in Wales either, so I'm stumped as to who could do a decent job. |  |
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:15 - Jun 9 with 859 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:08 - Jun 9 by max936 |
Wales cannot afford another shambles of a Welsh Government at the Senedd, Drakeford has ruined Wales and has held Wales back for all the years he's been Welsh Labours leader even worse than those who went before him.
I've no faith in Reform in Wales they will be another disaster Wales, but I've no faith in any of the leading parties in Wales either, so I'm stumped as to who could do a decent job. |
That's why I'm voting for Plaid mate, seems like the best of a bad choice. Can't fo Farage, Labour have shit on their own doorstep and the tories...no. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:18 - Jun 9 with 849 views | Whiterockin |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:15 - Jun 9 by SullutaCreturned |
That's why I'm voting for Plaid mate, seems like the best of a bad choice. Can't fo Farage, Labour have shit on their own doorstep and the tories...no. |
I will probably wait for the manifestos and see who is standing in my constituency. It's far too early to say who I'm voting for, but I can say I'm not voting Labour or Conservative. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:39 - Jun 9 with 810 views | shingle |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:08 - Jun 9 by max936 |
Wales cannot afford another shambles of a Welsh Government at the Senedd, Drakeford has ruined Wales and has held Wales back for all the years he's been Welsh Labours leader even worse than those who went before him.
I've no faith in Reform in Wales they will be another disaster Wales, but I've no faith in any of the leading parties in Wales either, so I'm stumped as to who could do a decent job. |
Well Labour and Plaid are proven failures and there is no doubt our decline under either of them will continue so i will vote Reform, and if as you say they are as bad as Labour and Plaid then i will have another lot to have no faith in. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 09:08 - Jun 10 with 565 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:39 - Jun 9 by shingle |
Well Labour and Plaid are proven failures and there is no doubt our decline under either of them will continue so i will vote Reform, and if as you say they are as bad as Labour and Plaid then i will have another lot to have no faith in. |
Farage is a posh bloke backed by billionaires who does not care about Wales. 🇬🇧
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| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 09:19 - Jun 10 with 536 views | Whiterockin |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 09:08 - Jun 10 by Kilkennyjack |
Farage is a posh bloke backed by billionaires who does not care about Wales. 🇬🇧
I hope that is clear to you. |
Has anyone in the Senedd cared about Wales for the last 25 years. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 16:28 - Jun 10 with 429 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 19:39 - Jun 9 by shingle |
Well Labour and Plaid are proven failures and there is no doubt our decline under either of them will continue so i will vote Reform, and if as you say they are as bad as Labour and Plaid then i will have another lot to have no faith in. |
Why are Plaid proven failures?
Why do you think reform a better choice, they have no candidates yet, in Wales, they have no leader and NO policies. They have nothing ut a collection of promises that I have read and those promises cannot be kept, the Senedd do not have the powers to do what Farahge says he'll do in Wales.
Which political party doesn't have its share of nutcases? | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 16:49 - Jun 10 with 411 views | Whiterockin |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 16:28 - Jun 10 by SullutaCreturned |
Why are Plaid proven failures?
Why do you think reform a better choice, they have no candidates yet, in Wales, they have no leader and NO policies. They have nothing ut a collection of promises that I have read and those promises cannot be kept, the Senedd do not have the powers to do what Farahge says he'll do in Wales.
Which political party doesn't have its share of nutcases? |
Wasn't Plaid in coalition with Labour when the 20mph was brought in. Plus during the Welsh NHS fiasco with Betsi Cadwaladr being brought in and out and back in special measures and the general decline in health services in Wales. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 17:52 - Jun 10 with 355 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 16:49 - Jun 10 by Whiterockin |
Wasn't Plaid in coalition with Labour when the 20mph was brought in. Plus during the Welsh NHS fiasco with Betsi Cadwaladr being brought in and out and back in special measures and the general decline in health services in Wales. |
The 20mph was Labour, Plaid agreed with it yes but the problem wasn't the idea, it was the planning and implementation. How much of that was down to Plaid?
The Welsh NHS has been a disaster a long time in the making.
Then there's leaders, Plaid used to have the useless Adam Price, Ap Iorwerth seems a much better proposition. How good he really is we'll have to wait and see I guess. One thing I'm certain of, he is no more of a proven failure than Farage and at least Plaid have policies. | | | |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 18:04 - Jun 10 with 325 views | Whiterockin |
| Are Plaid going to win the Senedd vote next year ? on 17:52 - Jun 10 by SullutaCreturned |
The 20mph was Labour, Plaid agreed with it yes but the problem wasn't the idea, it was the planning and implementation. How much of that was down to Plaid?
The Welsh NHS has been a disaster a long time in the making.
Then there's leaders, Plaid used to have the useless Adam Price, Ap Iorwerth seems a much better proposition. How good he really is we'll have to wait and see I guess. One thing I'm certain of, he is no more of a proven failure than Farage and at least Plaid have policies. |
Plaid were in coalition, if they had no say in anything what was the point of keeping Labour in power. | | | |
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