| British culture 21:44 - Jul 15 with 1068 views | Boundy |
Firstly I sincerely hope this post doesn't offend D jack which is highly likely after reading his rant commenting on my thread(s) content.
Anyway last Friday a 12 year old girl who had arrived in school wearing a Union dress and hat , the occasion was "designed to promote inclusion, understanding, and appreciation of different backgrounds, traditions and heritages", the young lady was told that she had to go into isolation and was not allowed to present her speech in front of her peers.
I just wonder what exactly is being taught in schools today, is being British now considered persona non grata in the teaching profession ,if so why . |  |
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| British culture on 21:55 - Jul 15 with 1024 views | onehunglow |
Allow me to
They are bring to feel shame for our history of colonialism and its now pay back time
We gave them passports to do the jobs we didn't want to do
Then they sent for their families and changed the likes of Bradford Leicester Wolves forever
The vultures brought cultures that have to be pre eminent now and this is the result
British " culture" has gone
That includes Wales too
We used to build the ships but now we're going down
Look at the state we're in | |
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| British culture on 22:11 - Jul 15 with 1008 views | raynor94 |
Massive mistake from the school I see they are now grovelling with apologies head or heads should roll over this |  |
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| British culture on 22:15 - Jul 15 with 999 views | union_jack |
D Jack is clearly a victim of today’s woke society brainwashing. He had a go at me for saying that the Manchester Airport incident lacked media coverage, which it did. Seems a sensitive soul. |  |
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| British culture on 23:35 - Jul 15 with 959 views | DJack |
What a bunch of snowflakes crying about nasty DJack. You are supposed to be grown men...you just dont like being challenged, you would rather sit in a siloh of like ideas.
Moving on...
Firstly, Boundy. I wasn't having a rant, I was pointing out that you are stuck in the past - and I actually agree many things WERE better, TO A DEGREE. I am glad that you are a bit more open to me posting. There are often threads that I'm not particularly bothered about but if I see you have posted I will always have a look. I may disagree with much of what you post but I'm always interested in what you think.
Secondly, UnionJack. You claim limited coverage whilst quoting an actual article covering the topic and if you had searched then you would have found more.
You, like Boundy, are FAR from dull and I kind of expect more from you both. |  |
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| British culture on 23:37 - Jul 15 with 956 views | DJack |
I forgot to add that the school got it wrong. The pupils point that she was not promoting Britishness above other traditions, just along side so it is part of the diversity. | |
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| British culture on 07:20 - Jul 16 with 894 views | Dr_Winston |
The Fabians and other associated groups have spent decades putting their sort of people into positions of power and this is the inevitable result.
Positions of power (not politicians - as we've seen in recent years they have very little actual power) in the UK are chock full of people who loathe it, and that filters down. Schools, The Judiciary, Universities, Civil Service, all replete with people holding the "right" opinions. Meanwhile, the populace are led to believe that the "1%" are the cause of their problems, and not the people who have run things since 1997.
Obviously people should lose jobs over this, but I bet they won't. They'll be protected, or moved sideways into different roles. [Post edited 16 Jul 7:43]
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| British culture on 10:34 - Jul 16 with 803 views | union_jack |
| British culture on 23:35 - Jul 15 by DJack |
What a bunch of snowflakes crying about nasty DJack. You are supposed to be grown men...you just dont like being challenged, you would rather sit in a siloh of like ideas.
Moving on...
Firstly, Boundy. I wasn't having a rant, I was pointing out that you are stuck in the past - and I actually agree many things WERE better, TO A DEGREE. I am glad that you are a bit more open to me posting. There are often threads that I'm not particularly bothered about but if I see you have posted I will always have a look. I may disagree with much of what you post but I'm always interested in what you think.
Secondly, UnionJack. You claim limited coverage whilst quoting an actual article covering the topic and if you had searched then you would have found more.
You, like Boundy, are FAR from dull and I kind of expect more from you both. |
So, you agree that you had to search for the news. A story such as that should be all over the place and you’d need to be in isolation somewhere not to see it. But it was conspicuous by its absence which tells me a lot about the way the story was being camouflaged. If you are trying to argue otherwise then I’m afraid you are being taken in by the current way in which the press / media is managed.
But I think the way in which you answered my point in that thread was an issue for the moderators because your personal insult shut down the thread there and then. Well done! | |
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| British culture on 12:21 - Jul 16 with 741 views | DJack |
| British culture on 10:34 - Jul 16 by union_jack |
So, you agree that you had to search for the news. A story such as that should be all over the place and you’d need to be in isolation somewhere not to see it. But it was conspicuous by its absence which tells me a lot about the way the story was being camouflaged. If you are trying to argue otherwise then I’m afraid you are being taken in by the current way in which the press / media is managed.
But I think the way in which you answered my point in that thread was an issue for the moderators because your personal insult shut down the thread there and then. Well done! |
There you go putting words in my mouth.
I said YOU could have searched... YOUR post made me aware that either you were being deliberately inflammatory/disengenuous or you were in a news bubble with little relevence to current events.
As for the mods shutting down the thread... that is their decision which i respect but we both know that far worse comments have been made on this and survived. Irrespective of that you are still wrong , there were multiple sources covering the event. | |
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| British culture on 16:44 - Jul 16 with 642 views | SullutaCreturned |
| British culture on 07:20 - Jul 16 by Dr_Winston |
The Fabians and other associated groups have spent decades putting their sort of people into positions of power and this is the inevitable result.
Positions of power (not politicians - as we've seen in recent years they have very little actual power) in the UK are chock full of people who loathe it, and that filters down. Schools, The Judiciary, Universities, Civil Service, all replete with people holding the "right" opinions. Meanwhile, the populace are led to believe that the "1%" are the cause of their problems, and not the people who have run things since 1997.
Obviously people should lose jobs over this, but I bet they won't. They'll be protected, or moved sideways into different roles. [Post edited 16 Jul 7:43]
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The 1% are definitely part of the problem though, tey hoard wealth, they pay minimum wages while they make massive profits and they are the source of much of the pollution that being plastics because plastics are cheap and easy.
I'm not saying there aren't other sources for our ailments too, I agree about positions of power, we have too many idiots in places they should never have attained. | | | |
| British culture on 16:46 - Jul 16 with 639 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| British culture on 10:34 - Jul 16 by union_jack |
So, you agree that you had to search for the news. A story such as that should be all over the place and you’d need to be in isolation somewhere not to see it. But it was conspicuous by its absence which tells me a lot about the way the story was being camouflaged. If you are trying to argue otherwise then I’m afraid you are being taken in by the current way in which the press / media is managed.
But I think the way in which you answered my point in that thread was an issue for the moderators because your personal insult shut down the thread there and then. Well done! |
The story was kerfuffle at an airport. Two bloke from Manchester got into fisticuff with the laws. Both got some cuts and v bruises. The fact they punched a wPc will not go down well for sure.
In the scheme of things a low level story of heroic everyday police work.
This one has some special features of camera action and a racial angle. In fact the racial angle was pretty irrelevant. They were just unruly yobbos.
I want to see police toughness at airport and on the railway to avoid bystanders getting hurt. [Post edited 16 Jul 16:48]
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| British culture on 17:00 - Jul 16 with 617 views | howenjack |
| British culture on 07:20 - Jul 16 by Dr_Winston |
The Fabians and other associated groups have spent decades putting their sort of people into positions of power and this is the inevitable result.
Positions of power (not politicians - as we've seen in recent years they have very little actual power) in the UK are chock full of people who loathe it, and that filters down. Schools, The Judiciary, Universities, Civil Service, all replete with people holding the "right" opinions. Meanwhile, the populace are led to believe that the "1%" are the cause of their problems, and not the people who have run things since 1997.
Obviously people should lose jobs over this, but I bet they won't. They'll be protected, or moved sideways into different roles. [Post edited 16 Jul 7:43]
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You're right ........"Common Purpose" See Brian Gerrish . Its been going on for years . Fabian Society named after the Roman general Fabianus who never met his foes head on in battle but chipped away at them inexorably over time until the odds were in his favour. Our society is being chipped away in the same fashion socially politically legally religiously until the tipping point is achieved .
Resolven is concerned about the relative diminution / watering down of Ancient Welsh DNA
I would suggest there are far bigger fish to fry. [Post edited 16 Jul 17:04]
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| British culture on 17:36 - Jul 16 with 579 views | Gwyn737 |
An absolute omnishambles from the school both in organisation and execution.
However the family aren’t doing to bad out of it - £1500 so far raised on a go fund me page (it’s states the money will go to her dad), and the young lady is very excited on social media about her invite to a Tommy Robinson rally. | | | |
| British culture on 17:55 - Jul 16 with 564 views | Dr_Winston |
| British culture on 17:36 - Jul 16 by Gwyn737 |
An absolute omnishambles from the school both in organisation and execution.
However the family aren’t doing to bad out of it - £1500 so far raised on a go fund me page (it’s states the money will go to her dad), and the young lady is very excited on social media about her invite to a Tommy Robinson rally. |
There's definitely a bit of staging to it. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the dad (who seems like a bit of a beaut) kinda expected something like this to happen for her.
The question is the other children who also got turned away and haven't been publicised, and why the school so quickly apologised. Easy to brush it off as a mistake, but a mistake that seems to have been predictable is a systemic error rather than a one off issue. | |
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| British culture on 18:01 - Jul 16 with 550 views | Dr_Winston |
| British culture on 16:44 - Jul 16 by SullutaCreturned |
The 1% are definitely part of the problem though, tey hoard wealth, they pay minimum wages while they make massive profits and they are the source of much of the pollution that being plastics because plastics are cheap and easy.
I'm not saying there aren't other sources for our ailments too, I agree about positions of power, we have too many idiots in places they should never have attained. |
Billionaires are not the reason why house prices have skyrocketed, why you can't get a doctor's appointment, why child sex abuse gangs have been given free reign to operate, why cities and neighbourhoods have changed beyond many people's recognition in a generation. If plastic is a problem then blame the people buying Christ knows how much worthless tat from Amazon or Temu.
The 1% are responsible for 30+% of all income taxes. The next 10% take it up to 50%. They are also generally the ones running the businesses providing employment that makes up the remainder. Also providing services that people want, which is why they become wealthy in the first place. "Wealth" is not a finite resource in any case. If someone has made a Billion there's nothing stopping someone else doing so too.
It's a bit bonkers that the people who seem most able to actually make things work are the ones being blamed for things going wrong whilst those who make the decisions that actually make a difference mostly go unnoticed. | |
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| British culture on 18:03 - Jul 16 with 544 views | Gwyn737 |
| British culture on 17:55 - Jul 16 by Dr_Winston |
There's definitely a bit of staging to it. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the dad (who seems like a bit of a beaut) kinda expected something like this to happen for her.
The question is the other children who also got turned away and haven't been publicised, and why the school so quickly apologised. Easy to brush it off as a mistake, but a mistake that seems to have been predictable is a systemic error rather than a one off issue. |
They had to apologise quick as it was always going to end up in the Mail. As you said, it does smell a bit of a fit up.
That’s not to say they shouldn’t have apologised as it’s clearly not been managed very well at all.
I’ve no idea what they were trying to achieve.
What I will say as a Welshman living and working in a school in England, the English can be very muddled about what their national identity actually is and it does cause differences of opinion. The Welsh seem much more solid in their identity. | | | |
| British culture on 18:53 - Jul 16 with 514 views | SullutaCreturned |
| British culture on 18:01 - Jul 16 by Dr_Winston |
Billionaires are not the reason why house prices have skyrocketed, why you can't get a doctor's appointment, why child sex abuse gangs have been given free reign to operate, why cities and neighbourhoods have changed beyond many people's recognition in a generation. If plastic is a problem then blame the people buying Christ knows how much worthless tat from Amazon or Temu.
The 1% are responsible for 30+% of all income taxes. The next 10% take it up to 50%. They are also generally the ones running the businesses providing employment that makes up the remainder. Also providing services that people want, which is why they become wealthy in the first place. "Wealth" is not a finite resource in any case. If someone has made a Billion there's nothing stopping someone else doing so too.
It's a bit bonkers that the people who seem most able to actually make things work are the ones being blamed for things going wrong whilst those who make the decisions that actually make a difference mostly go unnoticed. |
Responsible for 30% of taxes, yes but according to the World Inequality Database—in almost all nations, the richest 10% hold more than 50% of personal wealth, while the bottom 50% hold at most 10.4%
The poorest 10% of households paid on average 48% of their income in tax in 2022/23. The richest 10% of households, however, paid on average just 39% of their income in tax.
Council tax is a key source of disproportionate taxation, with the poorest 10% paying 7% while the richest 10% pay just 1.2%
VAT hits the poorest harder, with the poorest 10% paying 12% while the richest 10% pay just 3%
The post-tax income for the richest 10% is £112,874, over 12 times higher than the poorest 10%’s post-tax income of £9,651.00
Inequality is massive and growing so please don't defend the super rich when they are taking far, far more than a fair share whilst millions of people, heck BILLIONS of people struggle,
https://equalitytrust.org.uk/news/press-release/uk-still-taxes-the-poorest-more- | | | |
| British culture on 19:55 - Jul 16 with 451 views | Dr_Winston |
| British culture on 18:53 - Jul 16 by SullutaCreturned |
Responsible for 30% of taxes, yes but according to the World Inequality Database—in almost all nations, the richest 10% hold more than 50% of personal wealth, while the bottom 50% hold at most 10.4%
The poorest 10% of households paid on average 48% of their income in tax in 2022/23. The richest 10% of households, however, paid on average just 39% of their income in tax.
Council tax is a key source of disproportionate taxation, with the poorest 10% paying 7% while the richest 10% pay just 1.2%
VAT hits the poorest harder, with the poorest 10% paying 12% while the richest 10% pay just 3%
The post-tax income for the richest 10% is £112,874, over 12 times higher than the poorest 10%’s post-tax income of £9,651.00
Inequality is massive and growing so please don't defend the super rich when they are taking far, far more than a fair share whilst millions of people, heck BILLIONS of people struggle,
https://equalitytrust.org.uk/news/press-release/uk-still-taxes-the-poorest-more- |
Holding more than 50% of personal wealth would matter if personal wealth was a finite resource. It isn't.
What I wouldn't disagree with is that people at the lower end are too busy spending all their income just to survive instead of maybe trying to move themselves up the ladder so to speak. Again, the cost of living is almost entirely down to Government decisions rather than those at the upper echelons. For example, energy prices are high because of Government net zero targets and nothing else. The entire US energy network is private and they pay a shitload less for gas and electricity than we do.
VAT certainly needs looking at though. I'd increase the rates on "luxury" items (I think we might have had this conversation before) and decrease it on others. | |
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| British culture on 21:27 - Jul 16 with 414 views | Scotia |
| British culture on 17:36 - Jul 16 by Gwyn737 |
An absolute omnishambles from the school both in organisation and execution.
However the family aren’t doing to bad out of it - £1500 so far raised on a go fund me page (it’s states the money will go to her dad), and the young lady is very excited on social media about her invite to a Tommy Robinson rally. |
A rally where she is delivering the speech she wasn't allowed to in school. I assume the teachers knew the content.
Clearly a fubar by the school but I suspect there's a bit more to it than is being reported. | | | |
| British culture on 23:39 - Jul 16 with 353 views | DJack |
| British culture on 17:36 - Jul 16 by Gwyn737 |
An absolute omnishambles from the school both in organisation and execution.
However the family aren’t doing to bad out of it - £1500 so far raised on a go fund me page (it’s states the money will go to her dad), and the young lady is very excited on social media about her invite to a Tommy Robinson rally. |
Ahh, so it is a grift. Fooled me. | |
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| British culture on 01:18 - Jul 17 with 316 views | Boundy |
| British culture on 23:39 - Jul 16 by DJack |
Ahh, so it is a grift. Fooled me. |
What the young lady forgot to add on her speech was the UK culture of social medias ability to try to infer and sometimes succeed in destroying someones reputation when the real target is forgotten or forgiven. "Dad looks a bit dodgy" or" she's lapping up the limelight" .FFS like a load of old cockle women . | |
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| British culture on 06:31 - Jul 17 with 264 views | Scotia |
| British culture on 01:18 - Jul 17 by Boundy |
What the young lady forgot to add on her speech was the UK culture of social medias ability to try to infer and sometimes succeed in destroying someones reputation when the real target is forgotten or forgiven. "Dad looks a bit dodgy" or" she's lapping up the limelight" .FFS like a load of old cockle women . |
To be honest her father is doing a pretty good job of that himself.
Still they've raised nearly £2k now. | | | |
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