| Swans and Napoli, different cultures 20:18 - Feb 21 with 7388 views | Liberty |
When we make a sub, we applaud both player leaving the pitch and replacement / sub. When they made subs, nothing , silence, for both- found that strange.
When they visit us, a warm welcome. When British teams visit them, stabbings. Away fans cant show their colours.
Steeped in history, think we come out if this with class even if travelling fans should be wary. Wear jeans, adidas trainers and black hoodys and ur ok. |  |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 16:14 - Feb 22 with 1492 views | Dull1Thomas |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 16:03 - Feb 22 by Glyn1 |
Although you might be seen dead in a Swansea shirt. |
Vedi Napoli e poi muori! – See Naples and die!" |  |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 16:27 - Feb 22 with 1481 views | mj88 |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 16:14 - Feb 22 by Dull1Thomas |
Vedi Napoli e poi muori! – See Naples and die!" |
Talking about "different cultures" and then implicitly say that one is fair and the other one is silly doesn't make so much sense, to me.
As an Italian, I envy many good things of UK's culture, including the sport's culture.
But I consider a bitter arrogant the approach that some of you has about this, like yours is absolutely the best culture.
I've been at Anfield Road, Stamford Bridge and Emirates stadium, and not everything seemed attracting to me.
A huge part of the audience is made of tourists, in these years I think that Premier League has lost the most part of its authenticity. I remember Chelsea and Arsenal forum arriving at the pitch one ore two minutes before the match, while in Naples you can see the blanchers completely full one hour before the match.
At the Emirates and the Stamford Bridge i believe I was in a theatre, everybody quite, set down; no doubt it's something very civil to me, but I found it also very boring, as I found boring watching a football match in the Camp Nou and the Bernabeu.
I think the best atmosphere I experienced was certainly the one in Munich, at the Allianz: a perfect mix between the UK's order and organization and italian enthusiasm.
Anyway, I suggest you to watch some top match played at the San Paolo, in Naples, and then you'll tell me if it's a cold audience. | | | |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 16:31 - Feb 22 with 1478 views | Dull1Thomas |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 16:27 - Feb 22 by mj88 |
Talking about "different cultures" and then implicitly say that one is fair and the other one is silly doesn't make so much sense, to me.
As an Italian, I envy many good things of UK's culture, including the sport's culture.
But I consider a bitter arrogant the approach that some of you has about this, like yours is absolutely the best culture.
I've been at Anfield Road, Stamford Bridge and Emirates stadium, and not everything seemed attracting to me.
A huge part of the audience is made of tourists, in these years I think that Premier League has lost the most part of its authenticity. I remember Chelsea and Arsenal forum arriving at the pitch one ore two minutes before the match, while in Naples you can see the blanchers completely full one hour before the match.
At the Emirates and the Stamford Bridge i believe I was in a theatre, everybody quite, set down; no doubt it's something very civil to me, but I found it also very boring, as I found boring watching a football match in the Camp Nou and the Bernabeu.
I think the best atmosphere I experienced was certainly the one in Munich, at the Allianz: a perfect mix between the UK's order and organization and italian enthusiasm.
Anyway, I suggest you to watch some top match played at the San Paolo, in Naples, and then you'll tell me if it's a cold audience. |
Vedi Napoli e poi muori! – See Naples and die!" An Italian quotation ! What has your insecure rant got to do with that? | |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 19:36 - Feb 22 with 1405 views | longlostjack |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 15:49 - Feb 22 by Dull1Thomas |
Mae llawer o bobl yng Nghymru i ddarganfod y sylwadau hynny sarhaus ac yn anwybodus. Mae gan Gymru ddiwylliant cryf, hunaniaeth a iaith ei hun, gan fod y differnet o Loegr fel Naples yn dod o Gwlad Groeg, yr wyf yn deall sefydlu eich ddinas.
Peidiwch â barnu ychydig o bobl ar yma fel cynrychiolwyr o Gymru; Abertawe yn Abertawe, yn ddinas unigryw yng Nghymru. Yn dod cefnogwyr Abertawe o gefndiroedd differnet iawn, rhywfaint o Gymraeg, mae rhai DU, rhai yn rhyngwladol, ac rydym yn croesawu differneces oherwydd eu bod yn cyfoethogi ein cymdeithas. Rydym yn mwynhau cluture o'r DU, Ewrop a'r byd. Rydym wedi croesawu foreignors, yn enwedig Eidalwyr, a'i groesawu diwylliannau eraill, a dyna pam mae gennym wlad aeddfed. Eidal Gogledd a chanolog yn wych tan y 17eg ganrif ond mae rhannau o'r wlad yn ymddangos i wedi aros insullar ac yn anwybodus. Er bod ein dwy wlad yn cael llawer yn gyffredin, mae'n amlwg ein bod yn differnet iawn.
Read that and tell me it's English with a different accent! Moron (that's a Welsh word as well. |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 19:49 - Feb 22 with 1376 views | longlostjack |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 16:27 - Feb 22 by mj88 |
Talking about "different cultures" and then implicitly say that one is fair and the other one is silly doesn't make so much sense, to me.
As an Italian, I envy many good things of UK's culture, including the sport's culture.
But I consider a bitter arrogant the approach that some of you has about this, like yours is absolutely the best culture.
I've been at Anfield Road, Stamford Bridge and Emirates stadium, and not everything seemed attracting to me.
A huge part of the audience is made of tourists, in these years I think that Premier League has lost the most part of its authenticity. I remember Chelsea and Arsenal forum arriving at the pitch one ore two minutes before the match, while in Naples you can see the blanchers completely full one hour before the match.
At the Emirates and the Stamford Bridge i believe I was in a theatre, everybody quite, set down; no doubt it's something very civil to me, but I found it also very boring, as I found boring watching a football match in the Camp Nou and the Bernabeu.
I think the best atmosphere I experienced was certainly the one in Munich, at the Allianz: a perfect mix between the UK's order and organization and italian enthusiasm.
Anyway, I suggest you to watch some top match played at the San Paolo, in Naples, and then you'll tell me if it's a cold audience. |
You really do make some valid points! The Premier League has to listen to the fans and the money culture has led to a rubbish atmosphere at many grounds. Unfortunately Ultras are not the answer. | |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 20:02 - Feb 22 with 1355 views | VetchitBack |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 16:27 - Feb 22 by mj88 |
Talking about "different cultures" and then implicitly say that one is fair and the other one is silly doesn't make so much sense, to me.
As an Italian, I envy many good things of UK's culture, including the sport's culture.
But I consider a bitter arrogant the approach that some of you has about this, like yours is absolutely the best culture.
I've been at Anfield Road, Stamford Bridge and Emirates stadium, and not everything seemed attracting to me.
A huge part of the audience is made of tourists, in these years I think that Premier League has lost the most part of its authenticity. I remember Chelsea and Arsenal forum arriving at the pitch one ore two minutes before the match, while in Naples you can see the blanchers completely full one hour before the match.
At the Emirates and the Stamford Bridge i believe I was in a theatre, everybody quite, set down; no doubt it's something very civil to me, but I found it also very boring, as I found boring watching a football match in the Camp Nou and the Bernabeu.
I think the best atmosphere I experienced was certainly the one in Munich, at the Allianz: a perfect mix between the UK's order and organization and italian enthusiasm.
Anyway, I suggest you to watch some top match played at the San Paolo, in Naples, and then you'll tell me if it's a cold audience. |
Good post.
Germany really does seem to have a happy medium between atmosphere and general safety.
And I also agree about British football being boring nowadays. If I hadn't grew up watching football stood from a terrace I doubt I'd ever have got into it. [Post edited 22 Feb 2014 20:03]
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 20:19 - Feb 22 with 1336 views | mj88 |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 16:31 - Feb 22 by Dull1Thomas |
Vedi Napoli e poi muori! – See Naples and die!" An Italian quotation ! What has your insecure rant got to do with that? |
What do you mean? Maybe you don't know, but this historical quotation has a positive sense, it means "After you've seen Naples you've seen everything and you can die"...other interpretations are simply an ironic provocation, due to the fact that Naples is, today, the biggest city of the poorest italian area, so it is also less secure. But it's not Beirut, trust me :D | | | |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 20:32 - Feb 22 with 1324 views | mj88 |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 20:02 - Feb 22 by VetchitBack |
Good post.
Germany really does seem to have a happy medium between atmosphere and general safety.
And I also agree about British football being boring nowadays. If I hadn't grew up watching football stood from a terrace I doubt I'd ever have got into it. [Post edited 22 Feb 2014 20:03]
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I also have to add that I didn't come in Swansea, last Thursday, so I haven't experienced the atmosphere of your ground. But I am quite sure that small realities still preserve some authenticity, and your fans are warmer that Arsenal and Chelsea's; Liverpool's ground, for example, was nice, but I have to say that after the match I had to run away from Liverpool's hooligans, who stationed around the stadium with glass bottles and belts in their hands...true story!
My observation is generically about Premier League, nowadays the best championship in the world, but maybe too much oriented to economical interests. A show for tourists, and that's not my favorite football model.
Obviously I can't stand italian ultras culture, a real index of italian's culture decadence; but we're not the black part and you're not the white part: if I had to take my wife and my children to the stadium, I surely would choice a premier's match; but if I am with my friend and a want to have fun, watching my team's match in a passionate atmosphere, I'd still prefer my San Paolo, although it's old and crappy ;)
P.S. I hope that the english I remember is enough to be understood | | | |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 21:03 - Feb 22 with 1311 views | IronPole |
Anyway, we have many things in common, also neapolitans have another language, not only italian, and also neapolitans are different than rest of Italy. | | | |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 21:33 - Feb 22 with 1281 views | fergusferret |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 20:19 - Feb 22 by mj88 |
What do you mean? Maybe you don't know, but this historical quotation has a positive sense, it means "After you've seen Naples you've seen everything and you can die"...other interpretations are simply an ironic provocation, due to the fact that Naples is, today, the biggest city of the poorest italian area, so it is also less secure. But it's not Beirut, trust me :D |
Dylan Thomas wrote that Swansea was the Graveyard of ambition, I always thought that meant that most people here were HAPPY with their lot so why bother. | | | |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 22:05 - Feb 22 with 1258 views | longlostjack |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 21:33 - Feb 22 by fergusferret |
Dylan Thomas wrote that Swansea was the Graveyard of ambition, I always thought that meant that most people here were HAPPY with their lot so why bother. |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 23:09 - Feb 22 with 1229 views | jack_lord |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 16:27 - Feb 22 by mj88 |
Talking about "different cultures" and then implicitly say that one is fair and the other one is silly doesn't make so much sense, to me.
As an Italian, I envy many good things of UK's culture, including the sport's culture.
But I consider a bitter arrogant the approach that some of you has about this, like yours is absolutely the best culture.
I've been at Anfield Road, Stamford Bridge and Emirates stadium, and not everything seemed attracting to me.
A huge part of the audience is made of tourists, in these years I think that Premier League has lost the most part of its authenticity. I remember Chelsea and Arsenal forum arriving at the pitch one ore two minutes before the match, while in Naples you can see the blanchers completely full one hour before the match.
At the Emirates and the Stamford Bridge i believe I was in a theatre, everybody quite, set down; no doubt it's something very civil to me, but I found it also very boring, as I found boring watching a football match in the Camp Nou and the Bernabeu.
I think the best atmosphere I experienced was certainly the one in Munich, at the Allianz: a perfect mix between the UK's order and organization and italian enthusiasm.
Anyway, I suggest you to watch some top match played at the San Paolo, in Naples, and then you'll tell me if it's a cold audience. |
I have some empathy with you. My family in London are Chelsea fans and have been there a few times with them. When we were still playing in our old ground I went to Stamford bridge after the "shed" had been redeveloped and my exact words were "it was like visiting the theatre". I would not compare that to Swansea though, even in our sparkling new ground. |  |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 00:03 - Feb 23 with 1203 views | giantstoneater |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 10:15 - Feb 22 by sisao |
Was a just a way to explain you needed a repression. A proper one...including cages in the stadium! We never had that need. Still i deprecate violence and i wish for a change here anyway.
Not willing to accept any suggestion for growing up by you guys as i am not in a position to comment what happens in th UK, i might use cliches and media distorted information. Please understand it's the same for you.
And the guy that mention "neo-nazis" is actually the demonstration of how stupid and ignorant people can be. |
Really! Then how come most of your fans were dressed links para militaries I thought you played in sky blue and I can't remember seeing one Sky Blue shirt only Black shirts! |  | | |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 09:52 - Feb 23 with 1154 views | VetchitBack |
Take no notice Napoli fans - a lot of jealousy on this thread.
I know what sort of atmosphere I rather be a part of and it isn't ours.
The Premier League is basically a blueprint for how not to do it - foreign players, foreign owners, all money and no atmosphere.
mj88 hits the nail on the head again. The Premier League would be better to take the Missus to but Serie A (or most of the continent) better for going with your mates but who in their right mind would rather go with their Missus to a football match? | |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 10:10 - Feb 23 with 1141 views | sisao |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 00:03 - Feb 23 by giantstoneater |
Really! Then how come most of your fans were dressed links para militaries I thought you played in sky blue and I can't remember seeing one Sky Blue shirt only Black shirts! |
Did have have helmets on? Rifles? If it would have been an acceptable weather they have would stayed with no shirts at all. It's simply a "stamp" they are used to when they go away. Exactly the same you'll see from many other fans all over the europe. There were no incidents. So shut it, and stop telling people how to dress and specially stop marking people as nazis! | | | |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 10:15 - Feb 23 with 1078 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 21:03 - Feb 22 by IronPole |
Anyway, we have many things in common, also neapolitans have another language, not only italian, and also neapolitans are different than rest of Italy. |
Would that language be heavily influenced by Greek? |  |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 11:19 - Feb 23 with 1040 views | sisao |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 10:15 - Feb 23 by Brynmill_Jack |
Would that language be heavily influenced by Greek? |
Nah...it's in between Spanish and Portuguese...with some similarity with French. | | | |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 11:21 - Feb 23 with 1036 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 11:19 - Feb 23 by sisao |
Nah...it's in between Spanish and Portuguese...with some similarity with French. |
That's a surprise because for thousands of years ethnic Greeks lived in much of southern Italy , Sicily and Sardinia | |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 11:22 - Feb 23 with 1035 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 11:21 - Feb 23 by Brynmill_Jack |
That's a surprise because for thousands of years ethnic Greeks lived in much of southern Italy , Sicily and Sardinia |
And Nea - Polis means young/new city in Greek | |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 12:17 - Feb 23 with 1004 views | fergusferret |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 09:52 - Feb 23 by VetchitBack |
Take no notice Napoli fans - a lot of jealousy on this thread.
I know what sort of atmosphere I rather be a part of and it isn't ours.
The Premier League is basically a blueprint for how not to do it - foreign players, foreign owners, all money and no atmosphere.
mj88 hits the nail on the head again. The Premier League would be better to take the Missus to but Serie A (or most of the continent) better for going with your mates but who in their right mind would rather go with their Missus to a football match? |
Actually I like taking my sons who have grown up swans fans. I grew in the east end so you can guess who I supported. I remember the ICF and fights with Millwal,pitch invasionsl, now that im older I relise its all aload of bollox. I have watched the Swans for the Last thirteen years and am proad that the Club is owned by the fans, is debt free and the most importantly the way they play. If this is the only way to express your man hood I feel sorry for you. | | | |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 12:29 - Feb 23 with 994 views | jacksinceever |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 22:23 - Feb 21 by sisao |
That's due to the lack culture in the "Ultras" dynamics you all have nowdays in the UK....you guys got reprogrammed in the 80s...but that's typical in Spain, Germany, Italy and South America...they DO NOT follow the match almost at all. I don't agree with that but i respect that, it's their thing.
Arsenal fans in Napolio were ridicolous, Man City fans were in the pub in Manchester...Bayern Munchen and BVB Dortmund they were amazing.
I personally do not like the american sport experience, and i can see you guys are straight running in that direction. Your choice, i'd avoid putting cultures on the table though. |
You can keep your Italian football, fans' "cultural" behaviour and all that goes with it. Most Italian clubs living on past glories and for the most part Italian club and national football has been the most boring football I have seen over the past 45 years.
Anyone who goes to a game and doesn't watch it (and I include supporters of all clubs and nationalities in this) should give their seat to one of the many more knowledgable who do like to watch and enjoy the game |  | | |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 12:43 - Feb 23 with 988 views | fergusferret |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 12:29 - Feb 23 by jacksinceever |
You can keep your Italian football, fans' "cultural" behaviour and all that goes with it. Most Italian clubs living on past glories and for the most part Italian club and national football has been the most boring football I have seen over the past 45 years.
Anyone who goes to a game and doesn't watch it (and I include supporters of all clubs and nationalities in this) should give their seat to one of the many more knowledgable who do like to watch and enjoy the game |
well said
my favourite player Gianfranco Zola always played with a smile on his face and I as I remember a son of Napoli | | | |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 13:11 - Feb 23 with 972 views | Dull1Thomas |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 12:43 - Feb 23 by fergusferret |
well said
my favourite player Gianfranco Zola always played with a smile on his face and I as I remember a son of Napoli |
Zola and Zoff - brilliant.
A ditty in praise of of next Thursday
Swanzzzzeeeee Citeee
Oh, we're all tanked up
And we're off to Napoli | |
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| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 13:48 - Feb 23 with 951 views | giantstoneater |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 10:10 - Feb 23 by sisao |
Did have have helmets on? Rifles? If it would have been an acceptable weather they have would stayed with no shirts at all. It's simply a "stamp" they are used to when they go away. Exactly the same you'll see from many other fans all over the europe. There were no incidents. So shut it, and stop telling people how to dress and specially stop marking people as nazis! |
Only because they couldn't get them through customs! And talking about customs it's the custom in this country to wear your club colours at a match. You were right there were no incidents at the match but only because of a well planned police operation I doubt if our fans will get the same protection from your police. It is not our fans who have have a bad reputation yours do. | | | |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 15:22 - Feb 23 with 929 views | IronPole |
| Swans and Napoli, different cultures on 11:21 - Feb 23 by Brynmill_Jack |
That's a surprise because for thousands of years ethnic Greeks lived in much of southern Italy , Sicily and Sardinia |
We had more cultures in our land: Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Spanish, French...
We have more foklore derived from ancient Romans, more words derived from french and spanish. We have also something greek, example: we have a sweet typical dish we call "Struffoli". They are a dish of Magna Graecia, actually "Struffoli" derived from a greek word. | | | |
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