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People will believe Hamas before ISRAELIS which to me is incredible and stupid. Israel doesnt really give a shite and if we were defending our island neither would we.
Hmas is hiding its rockets in civilian areas and Israel aint having it mainly because these rockets aren't Toys r us playthings
Guilty untill proven innocent on 16:20 - Aug 26 by perchrockjack
People will believe Hamas before ISRAELIS which to me is incredible and stupid. Israel doesnt really give a shite and if we were defending our island neither would we.
Hmas is hiding its rockets in civilian areas and Israel aint having it mainly because these rockets aren't Toys r us playthings
Hamas has a better human rights record than Israel. Gaza is an entire civilian area any missiles sent by Israel will hit civillians
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(No subject) (n/t) on 18:02 - Aug 26 with 792 views
You trying to aim at the situation on Israel, yet we are talking about ISIS.
Israel, it could be argued are acting in self defence, and there IS evidence they are appearing to attack civilian areas because Hamas do have hidden rockets and launchers there. This is a fact!
ISIS is neither a government sanctioned fighting force, nor an army signed to anything remotely resembling a coffee of conduct - they are as legitimate an army as Al-qaeda. They are guilty of terrorist activities and the slaughter of countless civilians who do not subscribe to their doctrines and ideology.
By not supporting tougher action against these terrorists, I suggest you would leave the UK vulnerable... Something we've been far too complacent over.
IDF is Israeli, you raised it.
Lobbing high explosive into civilian areas knowing you are going to kill and maim children and adults is abhorrent no matter who does it, there is no excuse; makes as bad as the people placing targets there.
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Guilty untill proven innocent on 18:06 - Aug 26 with 798 views
HAMAS HAS A BETTER RECORD ON HUMAN RIGHT ETC. Sorry but youre a good poster. WE DISAGREE but I feel there is not hate in our replies and that s ok for me. Anyway, time for dinner
Hamas has a better human rights record than Israel. Gaza is an entire civilian area any missiles sent by Israel will hit civillians
Hamas fire their rockets, send their suicide bombers into civilian areas in Israel! They also launch their rockets from civilian areas knowing Israel will strike back. They don't care about the repercussions for their own civilians, never mind caring about Jews.
I keep seeing that Gaza is struggling for food and basic supplies, yet they have plenty of guns and bombs. Doesn't that strike you as odd?
I'm not defending the attacks on Gaza, far from it, but Hamas is guilty as sin too. And it's own people are being murdered because of it. They don't fire at Israel and Israel has no reasons to fire at them, or excuses if they do.
Lobbing high explosive into civilian areas knowing you are going to kill and maim children and adults is abhorrent no matter who does it, there is no excuse; makes as bad as the people placing targets there.
So you expect Israel to just sit back and not retaliate at all?
There's masses of video evidence of Israeli forces not engaging targets as there was the risk of civilian injuries, and unfortunately many have. But you surely can't make excuses for Hamas who break every opportunity of a ceasefire, and fire rockets as well as hide weapons/soldiers in civilian areas?!!
BOTH sides need to get a grip of the situation - and Palestine need to get rid of Hamas, a terrorist organisation (or have you forgotten the civilians and kids they've killed too with suicide bombings in Israel.... or is this somewhat forgiven by you and the other Hamas sympathisers here?!!).
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In short Hamas doesn't do human rights as is the case with both Sunni and Shia.
Israel really ain't that arsed which is our point, ie, they show no sense, no restraint and frankly are missing a chance to have people see their cause. Total clowns . Hamas total killers of anyone
Guilty untill proven innocent on 18:41 - Aug 26 by Catullus
Hamas fire their rockets, send their suicide bombers into civilian areas in Israel! They also launch their rockets from civilian areas knowing Israel will strike back. They don't care about the repercussions for their own civilians, never mind caring about Jews.
I keep seeing that Gaza is struggling for food and basic supplies, yet they have plenty of guns and bombs. Doesn't that strike you as odd?
I'm not defending the attacks on Gaza, far from it, but Hamas is guilty as sin too. And it's own people are being murdered because of it. They don't fire at Israel and Israel has no reasons to fire at them, or excuses if they do.
Hamas do not send their rockets from civilian areas and not hide behind their women and children. It's propaganda.
Wouldn't it be easier if Israel just f*cked off out of Gaza and left the Palestinians alone
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Guilty untill proven innocent on 19:10 - Aug 26 with 768 views
Hamas do not send their rockets from civilian areas and not hide behind their women and children. It's propaganda.
Wouldn't it be easier if Israel just f*cked off out of Gaza and left the Palestinians alone
ffs - do you want to revisit the earlier thread on this subject, where I posted video that clearly showed they were. Not propoganda - they happened to be caught by accident from independent and verifiable news sources!
Would be easier if you just got your facts right! I'm not a supporter of either sides - but I just hate to read how inaccurate your responses are!
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So you expect Israel to just sit back and not retaliate at all?
There's masses of video evidence of Israeli forces not engaging targets as there was the risk of civilian injuries, and unfortunately many have. But you surely can't make excuses for Hamas who break every opportunity of a ceasefire, and fire rockets as well as hide weapons/soldiers in civilian areas?!!
BOTH sides need to get a grip of the situation - and Palestine need to get rid of Hamas, a terrorist organisation (or have you forgotten the civilians and kids they've killed too with suicide bombings in Israel.... or is this somewhat forgiven by you and the other Hamas sympathisers here?!!).
I'm not a hamas sympathiser. I'm certainty not on the side of any group that target civilians or civilian areas. Both sides in this are in the wrong, there will be no winners
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(No subject) (n/t) on 21:00 - Aug 26 with 749 views
So you expect Israel to just sit back and not retaliate at all?
There's masses of video evidence of Israeli forces not engaging targets as there was the risk of civilian injuries, and unfortunately many have. But you surely can't make excuses for Hamas who break every opportunity of a ceasefire, and fire rockets as well as hide weapons/soldiers in civilian areas?!!
BOTH sides need to get a grip of the situation - and Palestine need to get rid of Hamas, a terrorist organisation (or have you forgotten the civilians and kids they've killed too with suicide bombings in Israel.... or is this somewhat forgiven by you and the other Hamas sympathisers here?!!).
This point about Hamas firing rockets into/at Israel is raised on a regular basis yet, other than official Israeli statements, there doesn't seem to be a great deal of evidence in recent times to back that up? Yet the damage being done in the opposite direction is plain to see. Have I been missing something??
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(No subject) (n/t) on 21:11 - Aug 26 with 740 views
This point about Hamas firing rockets into/at Israel is raised on a regular basis yet, other than official Israeli statements, there doesn't seem to be a great deal of evidence in recent times to back that up? Yet the damage being done in the opposite direction is plain to see. Have I been missing something??
Here's just two I could be bothered to copy/paste - there's plenty around though if you look! Why not more damage in Israel? That's due to their anti-missile protection and luck. But don't even claim Isreal don't have the ability to retaliate as any country has that option. They BOTH need a f*cking seeing to in order to get them to sort it out - but they ultimately need to also get rid of Hamas too!
That's in terms of rockets anyway. You forgotten about all the suicide bombings in crowded Israeli streets? Killing people who don't dictate policy, have nothing to do with Palestine and yet were targetted by HAMAS?!!!
i'm getting sick of all this Pro-Palestinian bollocks. Where is the HAMAS OUT campaign?!!
And we're Swaaaaanseeeea Ciiiityyyy! Swaaaansseeeaaa Ciiiityyy F C!
We're not necessarily the greatest team in football, the world has ever seen (but we're possibly the most honest and resilient).
- On behalf of The Campaign For Realistic Crowd Chanting
It is entirely possible to be pro-justice for the Palestinian people without being pro-Hamas. It's as much of a fallacy to pretend that if you are against Israel's recent actions in Gaza that you must be pro-Hamas as it is to say that you're anti-Semitic for the same reason.
Here's just two I could be bothered to copy/paste - there's plenty around though if you look! Why not more damage in Israel? That's due to their anti-missile protection and luck. But don't even claim Isreal don't have the ability to retaliate as any country has that option. They BOTH need a f*cking seeing to in order to get them to sort it out - but they ultimately need to also get rid of Hamas too!
That's in terms of rockets anyway. You forgotten about all the suicide bombings in crowded Israeli streets? Killing people who don't dictate policy, have nothing to do with Palestine and yet were targetted by HAMAS?!!!
i'm getting sick of all this Pro-Palestinian bollocks. Where is the HAMAS OUT campaign?!!
I'm sure I didn't imagine a suicide bombing on an Israeli bus, claimed by Hamas.
As ECB says, being against Hamas doesn't mean you support Israel in this. And as jackboostardo says, they are both wrong and need sorting.
Guilty untill proven innocent on 21:19 - Aug 26 by exiledclaseboy
It is entirely possible to be pro-justice for the Palestinian people without being pro-Hamas. It's as much of a fallacy to pretend that if you are against Israel's recent actions in Gaza that you must be pro-Hamas as it is to say that you're anti-Semitic for the same reason.
That's not my point, and as Cattulus also says, it's the lack of anti-Hamas comments here that I find the most depressing.
Killing of ANY innocent sucks - but Hamas see this as a publicity drive in order to raise more hatred against Israel for their own gain. That's why they DO hide their rockets in among the homes of the innocent.
BOTH sides need a word - but we're going drastically off OP now.
And we're Swaaaaanseeeea Ciiiityyyy! Swaaaansseeeaaa Ciiiityyy F C!
We're not necessarily the greatest team in football, the world has ever seen (but we're possibly the most honest and resilient).
- On behalf of The Campaign For Realistic Crowd Chanting
And we're Swaaaaanseeeea Ciiiityyyy! Swaaaansseeeaaa Ciiiityyy F C!
We're not necessarily the greatest team in football, the world has ever seen (but we're possibly the most honest and resilient).
- On behalf of The Campaign For Realistic Crowd Chanting
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