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Women only train carriages? 11:36 - Aug 23 with 14897 viewsHighjack

As we know, all men are opportunistic sex attackers who are unable to set eyes on or be in close proximity to a female before becoming overcome with lust and jumping on her in a fit of rampant gropeage whilst making noises like Sid James in the carry on films. So the Labour Party have come up with a solution. Woman only carriages!

I think it's a fantastic idea as it will protect us men from being arrested for sexual assault. They have trialled this in other countries and it's been a raging success. If it works here plans are already in the pipeline to extend the scheme to child only carriages to protect them from paedophiles and OAP carriages to protect everyone else from the smell.

A statement from the architect of the plan said "This plan will cut sexual assaults on trains by 100%. The current strategy of identifying, arresting and prosecuting the scumbags who assault women clearly isn't working. Here at the Labour Party we feel that treating all men as rapists who can't control themselves and segregating them from all women forever is the most proportionate response to this issue"

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Women only train carriages? on 22:18 - Aug 24 with 1682 viewsPozuelosSideys

Women only train carriages? on 21:02 - Aug 24 by londonlisa2001

The Institute for Fiscal Studies publish the figures each year.

The average pay gap at present in the U.K. is 18% (the highest in the EU incidentally). Some of that will, of course, be caused by children causing women (more often than men) to take a career break.

However, looking at the figures prior to children (so taking that element away from the figures), women still earn 10% less on average than men. (After children it's 33%).
Women with degrees earn 20% less than men with degrees. Women with A levels 25% less than men with A levels.

Companies are now, for the first time, required to publish their gender pay gap. It'll be interesting reading.

All this is, of course, despite pay discrimination being theoretically illegal for many years.


Come off it. You should know better than taking that metric at face value.

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Women only train carriages? on 23:22 - Aug 24 with 1620 viewsLoyal

Women only train carriages? on 22:09 - Aug 24 by FieryJack

Yes, I remember a nightmare journey on one of those trains in the early 80s to a midweek, evening game against Cardiff.

Welsh Cup semi, I think.

I wasn't so much nervous of the hordes of CCFC outside Ninian Park station as of the Swansea thugs on the train, half of whom were knocking back flagons of cider and inhaling huge portions of glue fumes from cellophane bags.

God knows where the police were in those days.


Probably happy at the fact all the problematic people were either in ninian park station or on the train.

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Women only train carriages? on 00:26 - Aug 25 with 1583 viewsdizietsma

It's difficult to be sure why women are earning less than men. One side lies and say it's all about discrimination, the other view lies and claims it's all based on merit.

The only way to find the real truth is to watch youtube videos of Americans squabbling in the streets.
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Women only train carriages? on 00:30 - Aug 25 with 1578 viewssquarebear

I work in IT. I don't think I've ever encountered a female IT professional who wasn't at least as competent as me. Usually theyre better. If I were in charge of recruiting I'd fill the bleedin office with women.

Especially if they're cheap.
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Women only train carriages? on 01:26 - Aug 25 with 1560 viewsHumpty

Women only train carriages? on 00:26 - Aug 25 by dizietsma

It's difficult to be sure why women are earning less than men. One side lies and say it's all about discrimination, the other view lies and claims it's all based on merit.

The only way to find the real truth is to watch youtube videos of Americans squabbling in the streets.


Heh!
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Women only train carriages? on 07:15 - Aug 25 with 1494 viewsMo_Wives

Women only train carriages? on 21:53 - Aug 24 by FieryJack

I think there are women-only coaches on trains in Delhi and other major Indian cities where the incidence of sexual assaults on trains is of off the scale.

There should also be special K*nt coaches for the likes of Dailew, Highjack and Mo Wives.

In an ideal world they would not be able to board a normal coach due to the large K mark forcibly branded into their foreheads by functionaries of the coming Revolutionary Govt.

Said coaches will have no seats, benches or windows.


Found another one...

bigot
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noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

F*ck me, these people are stupid. Let them talk and they expose themselves.

BTW, Fairy, Looking at your first paragraph, I have two questions...
Are you saying that in India the women only coaches have not stopped the problem of sexual assaults on trains, which is "off the scale"?
Or are you suggesting we stop immigration from India to stop our problem going "off the scale"?
I can't tell if you're making an anti-immigration argument or a segregation doesn't work argument. TBH, I know your type...and it wouldn't surprise me if you thought you were arguing against these points.

Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Women only train carriages? on 07:46 - Aug 25 with 1482 viewsMo_Wives

Women only train carriages? on 01:26 - Aug 25 by Humpty

Heh!


I must interject at this point. I can't allow the far left to do what it does when losing an argument (after calling your opponent a racist, sexist, misogynist blah blah f*cking blah, of course).

Now, that guy you are replying to may have been making a tongue in cheek joke. I will give him the benefit of the doubt (Although, he is free to answer my question). But you are a fully paid up member of the 'honest' far left.

So here we see the reframing of my argument. They can't beat it, so they reframe it to something I never said, so they can laugh and walk away slapping each other on the back for how stupid I AM. Otherwise, of course, they would have to face the truth.
So please, Hump, tell me which way I should be forming my world view, if not...
Looking at left wing sources,
Looking at right wing sources,
Looking at all available sources...including actual eye witness accounts (videos) of the events, that people then post online...after sometimes showing them to the police (who request them)

Defence lawyer: "M'lud...we have a video, filmed by an eye witness, showing the event in question"
Judge: "Let me ask...has this video been uploaded to YouTube?"
Defence lawyer: "Ah...yes, your honour"
Judge: "Well f*ck that...we will just rely on what Owen Jones wrote in the Guardian...even though he was miles away from the event, kneeling in front of a glory hole at the time"

FFS. Lets not see for ourselves if the news corporations are accurately describing the events...let's just believe them

I remember when the left use to distrust the authorities...unfortunately, now they are the authority.

Edit - I'd like t add, I have no problem with the left. They are fine. When I refer to the left in a derogatory way, I am referring to the far left nut jobs. The people who are to today what the overbearing Christians were to yesterday (Christians = fine. overbearing Christians = not so fine....it's the overbearing, watch what everyone else says bit that gets me)
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Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Women only train carriages? on 07:48 - Aug 25 with 1480 viewsHighjack

Women only train carriages? on 21:53 - Aug 24 by FieryJack

I think there are women-only coaches on trains in Delhi and other major Indian cities where the incidence of sexual assaults on trains is of off the scale.

There should also be special K*nt coaches for the likes of Dailew, Highjack and Mo Wives.

In an ideal world they would not be able to board a normal coach due to the large K mark forcibly branded into their foreheads by functionaries of the coming Revolutionary Govt.

Said coaches will have no seats, benches or windows.


Id be glad to have my own coach, I'm sick of randy women grabbing my bum wherever I go.

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Women only train carriages? on 08:05 - Aug 25 with 1471 viewsMo_Wives

Women only train carriages? on 07:48 - Aug 25 by Highjack

Id be glad to have my own coach, I'm sick of randy women grabbing my bum wherever I go.


Don't forget 'cat calls'.
The other day I was coming out of the bakers, when some old woman said "corr...nice buns, love". Did I cry about it? no...I just gave my arse a cheeky wiggle and walked home with a skip in my step because of the compliment.

Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Women only train carriages? on 08:09 - Aug 25 with 1469 viewsWarwickHunt

Women only train carriages? on 22:02 - Aug 24 by exiledclaseboy

You've been watching your VHS box set of "The Comedians" from 1977 again haven't you?


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Women only train carriages? on 08:19 - Aug 25 with 1464 viewsexiledclaseboy

Women only train carriages? on 08:05 - Aug 25 by Mo_Wives

Don't forget 'cat calls'.
The other day I was coming out of the bakers, when some old woman said "corr...nice buns, love". Did I cry about it? no...I just gave my arse a cheeky wiggle and walked home with a skip in my step because of the compliment.


The mystery of Mo's identity is solved. He's Barbara Windsor circa 1972. Saucy.

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Women only train carriages? on 08:25 - Aug 25 with 1459 viewsSoberBaker

Women only train carriages? on 08:19 - Aug 25 by exiledclaseboy

The mystery of Mo's identity is solved. He's Barbara Windsor circa 1972. Saucy.


I think I know who he used to be on here and if it's who I think it is, we should all be honoured by his presence
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AMOW

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Women only train carriages? on 08:29 - Aug 25 with 1454 viewsexiledclaseboy

Women only train carriages? on 08:25 - Aug 25 by SoberBaker

I think I know who he used to be on here and if it's who I think it is, we should all be honoured by his presence
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Gissa clue.

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Women only train carriages? on 08:36 - Aug 25 with 1444 viewsSoberBaker

Women only train carriages? on 08:29 - Aug 25 by exiledclaseboy

Gissa clue.



AMOW

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Women only train carriages? on 10:02 - Aug 25 with 1402 viewsWarwickHunt

Women only train carriages? on 00:30 - Aug 25 by squarebear

I work in IT. I don't think I've ever encountered a female IT professional who wasn't at least as competent as me. Usually theyre better. If I were in charge of recruiting I'd fill the bleedin office with women.

Especially if they're cheap.


And pretty.
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Women only train carriages? on 10:32 - Aug 25 with 1375 viewsFlashberryjack

Women only train carriages? on 10:02 - Aug 25 by WarwickHunt

And pretty.


And got big tits

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Women only train carriages? on 10:34 - Aug 25 with 1372 viewsWarwickHunt

Women only train carriages? on 10:32 - Aug 25 by Flashberryjack

And got big tits


Small and perky, but each to their own.
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Women only train carriages? on 10:35 - Aug 25 with 1372 viewsMo_Wives

Women only train carriages? on 08:19 - Aug 25 by exiledclaseboy

The mystery of Mo's identity is solved. He's Barbara Windsor circa 1972. Saucy.



Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Women only train carriages? on 10:36 - Aug 25 with 1371 viewsMo_Wives

Women only train carriages? on 08:25 - Aug 25 by SoberBaker

I think I know who he used to be on here and if it's who I think it is, we should all be honoured by his presence
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Brynnie said I was you the other day. Which I took as a compliment, BTW.

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Women only train carriages? on 10:47 - Aug 25 with 1349 viewsHighjack

Women only train carriages? on 08:36 - Aug 25 by SoberBaker



He's kaitlyn Jenner??

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Women only train carriages? on 11:19 - Aug 25 with 1322 viewsMo_Wives

Women only train carriages? on 10:47 - Aug 25 by Highjack

He's kaitlyn Jenner??


I thought they meant London Lisa.

Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Women only train carriages? on 12:41 - Aug 25 with 1290 viewsYossarian

Women only train carriages? on 16:44 - Aug 23 by londonlisa2001

Of course it's not going to, but the sad fact is that sexual assault against women on trains has increased dramatically.

Although it's a tiny proportion of men that are abusive, I don't know of any woman in London who at some point or another has not been groped on public transport. Not one.

And the reduction of staff on trains has meant that the intrinsic feeling of safety which comes from guards walking up and down, or staff with drinks trolleys etc etc (the lack of conductors on London buses has caused an issue as another example) has meant women feel less safe.

It's also been exacerbated by the ridiculous exposure that young men now have to pornography, which has led many to assume that women are 'up for it' or 'fair game'.

Unfortunately women don't feel any safer as a result of other men, who wouldn't think of attacking a woman themselves, somehow finding the whole issue to be really quite amusing. As evidenced on this thread yet again. It's pretty sad.


I'm sure most of us on here don't find that idea amusing in the slightest Lisa. I think the barbs were aimed at Labour's attempt at social engineering that is simply doomed to fail. The common sense approach ( which they appear to increasingly lack) is to look at the root causes. I suspect you are right in suggesting the availability of online porn is fuelling increasingly misogynistic attitudes, but there is also a real unwillingness amongst the political classes to ask uncomfortable questions. Are there cultural reasons for the increase in sexual assaults? Has there been any profiling work done on the social, cultural or ethnic origins of those responsible? Do we look to invest more time and money in education- as we struggle to understand our changing society, let alone come to terms and cope with some of its less positive manifestations? These are all difficult questions to ask, let alone answer. One thing I do know, is that demonising, by implication, all men and presenting them as a collective threat is not the way to promote a cohesive society. We need to protect women, and all citizens who feel vulnerable in public spaces- but segregating women is not the answer for a liberal, inclusive and democratic society. Our forebears would be horrified.

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Women only train carriages? on 13:03 - Aug 25 with 1275 viewsMo_Wives

Women only train carriages? on 12:41 - Aug 25 by Yossarian

I'm sure most of us on here don't find that idea amusing in the slightest Lisa. I think the barbs were aimed at Labour's attempt at social engineering that is simply doomed to fail. The common sense approach ( which they appear to increasingly lack) is to look at the root causes. I suspect you are right in suggesting the availability of online porn is fuelling increasingly misogynistic attitudes, but there is also a real unwillingness amongst the political classes to ask uncomfortable questions. Are there cultural reasons for the increase in sexual assaults? Has there been any profiling work done on the social, cultural or ethnic origins of those responsible? Do we look to invest more time and money in education- as we struggle to understand our changing society, let alone come to terms and cope with some of its less positive manifestations? These are all difficult questions to ask, let alone answer. One thing I do know, is that demonising, by implication, all men and presenting them as a collective threat is not the way to promote a cohesive society. We need to protect women, and all citizens who feel vulnerable in public spaces- but segregating women is not the answer for a liberal, inclusive and democratic society. Our forebears would be horrified.


Superb post.

Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Women only train carriages? on 15:36 - Aug 25 with 1216 viewsFlashberryjack

Women only train carriages? on 13:03 - Aug 25 by Mo_Wives

Superb post.


Oooops down arrow error.......sorry !

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