| The Keir Starmer effect 09:38 - Jul 16 with 5103 views | Catullus |
Just what is it? I saw him on BBC this morning and there seemed to be 3 issues for ex Labour voters, trust, people have lost trust in Labour. Corbyn, 18 months on and the shadow of Jezza is still a toxic presence and last, what do Labour really stand for now?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57848266
I'm not worried about Corbyn himself but his supporters who still infest the party, that's different. Starmer was dismayed he couldn't get out more to meet voters, the pandemic effect, none of us escaped it and Starmer says neither did he but Bojo was very visible, maybe too visible in fact...unless he was hiding in fridges!
Labour has changed a bit but now people don't know them. The same tired old faces are mostly gone from the front bench but these new faces, who are they, what do they really stand for and believe?
Labour, in my opinion, need a big media drive, they need to get their front benches out in front of the public at every opportunity so we can see them and judge them. Will we ever trust them unless we get to know them? I'd still like to see Thornberry ditched, I don't like Lammy but I quite like Nandy and Jess Smith. Angela Rayner was just too gobby and got what she deserved, I'm not sold on Jon Ashworth but the rest of them are largely unknown quantities, we need to know them, we need to be able to trust them.
I've saved the Shadow Weslh Secretary for last, Nia Griffith, why did she get the gig? To me she's one of the tired old faces that needed ditching. For me Labour need to find someone younger, more dynamic, someone the young people of Wales can relate to.
Drakeford tried to engage the youth, he gave them the vote but what happened? Senedd elections have never made 50%, have never matched Westminster elections,
https://research.senedd.wales/research-articles/election-2021-how-many-people-vo
This Welsh government actually only got 20% of the electorate to vote for it. We ned them to be better. Maybe in Westminster they think they can do away with the Senedd or just go around them because there is so little support for the Senedd at the ballot box. Maybe Bojo is sitting there saying less than half the electorate bother to vote so maybe most Welsh people don't really want it? Look at the Senedd, as guilty of being full of tired old faces as Westminster. maybe the problem there is, who chooses the candidates? Is there too much nepotism, too much cronyism in the selection processes? We need frsh faces who get out there and grab our attention, not nuggets like RT Davies or half soaked people who claim they dont even want the job, like Drakeford.
Will we ever get better if the people choosing the next candidates are the very people we need to be rid of? |  |
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| The Keir Starmer effect on 09:27 - Aug 12 with 731 views | Professor |
| The Keir Starmer effect on 08:45 - Aug 12 by majorraglan |
Average price of a test in the UK is £75, but some companies are charging hundreds of pounds and it’s reported the service from the private providers is very poor hence Sajid Javed writing to the monopolies commission and asking them to investigate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58149951
Some countries don’t charge for PCR tests and there are some saying we shouldn’t charge either, I don’t agree with that as I believe the UK tax payer has picked up enough of an additional burden over the last 18 months without having to incur more debt, if people want to go on holiday then they they should pay themselves. The chances are is that they’re getting a bargain on the holiday! Guy I was speaking to in work picked up a £3.5k holiday for £725 so it’s swings and roundabouts. |
Realistically a qPCR test is well under £10 to perform, less with a higher degree of automation. There will be admin and courier costs, but £20-30 would be a fair cost, which the traveller should bear. It should be realistically capped, as people are being scalped. Perhaps £30 for a day 2 and £50 for the day 2 & 8’tests would be fair,’yet still allow profit to be made. | | | |
| The Keir Starmer effect on 12:45 - Aug 12 with 675 views | pikeypaul |
Is it Starmer or the Labour party in general?
After 11 years of total irrelevance they are still light years behind BOJO and the Conservatives.
Despite the shouting and screaming of the noisy, loser,leftie minority the people of the country have clearly thrown their backing behind our present Government,
Labour with 199 MPs compared to the Conservatives 363 tells us how feeble and weak the lefties are,which is a shame since we know every country needs an opposistion that is credible,which the leftie losers can only dream about.
That looks a far way off when we have the likes of Diane Abbott and the rest of the rabble sitting opposite,until that changes the sensible in the country will always vote for the Conservatives in massive numbers allowing them to do anything they like and the noisy leftie minority will not be able to do feck all about it.
Happy days. |  |
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| The Keir Starmer effect on 12:48 - Aug 12 with 672 views | majorraglan |
| The Keir Starmer effect on 09:27 - Aug 12 by Professor |
Realistically a qPCR test is well under £10 to perform, less with a higher degree of automation. There will be admin and courier costs, but £20-30 would be a fair cost, which the traveller should bear. It should be realistically capped, as people are being scalped. Perhaps £30 for a day 2 and £50 for the day 2 & 8’tests would be fair,’yet still allow profit to be made. |
I had no idea they were under £10 to perform, so there’s defo scope to reduce the costs across the piste. | | | |
| The Keir Starmer effect on 12:51 - Aug 12 with 666 views | majorraglan |
| The Keir Starmer effect on 12:45 - Aug 12 by pikeypaul |
Is it Starmer or the Labour party in general?
After 11 years of total irrelevance they are still light years behind BOJO and the Conservatives.
Despite the shouting and screaming of the noisy, loser,leftie minority the people of the country have clearly thrown their backing behind our present Government,
Labour with 199 MPs compared to the Conservatives 363 tells us how feeble and weak the lefties are,which is a shame since we know every country needs an opposistion that is credible,which the leftie losers can only dream about.
That looks a far way off when we have the likes of Diane Abbott and the rest of the rabble sitting opposite,until that changes the sensible in the country will always vote for the Conservatives in massive numbers allowing them to do anything they like and the noisy leftie minority will not be able to do feck all about it.
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Not arguing with some of the points you are making, but in reality Boris there are some real ethical issues taking place in the centre of our government and we are being taken for a ride and financially to the cleaners. The inability to address some of the things that has taken place is scandalous. Corbyn et al have a lot to answer for. [Post edited 12 Aug 2021 12:53]
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| The Keir Starmer effect on 15:19 - Aug 12 with 640 views | Catullus |
| The Keir Starmer effect on 12:51 - Aug 12 by majorraglan |
Not arguing with some of the points you are making, but in reality Boris there are some real ethical issues taking place in the centre of our government and we are being taken for a ride and financially to the cleaners. The inability to address some of the things that has taken place is scandalous. Corbyn et al have a lot to answer for. [Post edited 12 Aug 2021 12:53]
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That's the real problem. Labour are clearly not up to the task, they present little challenge and Starmer hasn't improved things any. Yet the tories are utterly corrupt and many of them of them are utterly useless, just slightly less useless than the Labour party.
What that leaves is a country run by blatantly greedy, self serving fools who cannot even understand how repugnant their behaviour is. Look at Cameron, he's been cleared, he says he's done nothing wrong when to most of us (even tory voters) what he did should be wrong. | |
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| The Keir Starmer effect on 16:12 - Aug 13 with 582 views | pikeypaul |
| The Keir Starmer effect on 15:19 - Aug 12 by Catullus |
That's the real problem. Labour are clearly not up to the task, they present little challenge and Starmer hasn't improved things any. Yet the tories are utterly corrupt and many of them of them are utterly useless, just slightly less useless than the Labour party.
What that leaves is a country run by blatantly greedy, self serving fools who cannot even understand how repugnant their behaviour is. Look at Cameron, he's been cleared, he says he's done nothing wrong when to most of us (even tory voters) what he did should be wrong. |
I agree,but dont think the tories have sole ownership of corruption its widespread amonst the far left MPs also.
When youve got scum like antoniazzi and carolyn harris represnting local constituencies you must realise the local people get what they deserve.
A pair of more useless coonts I could not imagine and voted in by people who would vote for a donkey if you pinned a red rosette on it. Luckily people throughout the UK vote on current policies unlike the thick Welsh who vote for a party just because their great grand parents did. [Post edited 13 Aug 2021 16:18]
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| The Keir Starmer effect on 22:15 - Aug 13 with 546 views | Catullus |
| The Keir Starmer effect on 16:12 - Aug 13 by pikeypaul |
I agree,but dont think the tories have sole ownership of corruption its widespread amonst the far left MPs also.
When youve got scum like antoniazzi and carolyn harris represnting local constituencies you must realise the local people get what they deserve.
A pair of more useless coonts I could not imagine and voted in by people who would vote for a donkey if you pinned a red rosette on it. Luckily people throughout the UK vote on current policies unlike the thick Welsh who vote for a party just because their great grand parents did. [Post edited 13 Aug 2021 16:18]
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I agree with you Pikey, it's why I won't call myself a Tory OR Labour supporter. UK politics is in a real mess and corruption seems to be everywhere. Fiona Onasanya, a Labour MP and lawyer who committed perjury was evidence of that. Then she refused to resign, desperate to cling onto the trough.
We won't get better politicians until more people pay attention to politics and give these people the scrutiny they should expect. We should watch these people so closely they daren't even break wind! | |
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| The Keir Starmer effect on 09:38 - Aug 14 with 519 views | felixstowe_jack |
I see that union dinosaur Len McCluskey has said Keir Starmer is taking labour away from its hard left policy.
This is same millionaire socialist union leader who earns a basic salary of £150,000 a year as well as persuading his employers to loan him £400,000 to buy his £700,000 London flat several years ago. He has since managed to repay this from his savings.
Len has finally announced he is going to retire at the age of 70 no doubt on a huge Union pension. | |
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