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The Official Swansea City Versus Manchester United PL Match Thread
at 15:29 6 Nov 2016

This is shocking. No ideas or pace going forward, far too much space in midfield for Man U.

I am staggered that this is the same club that has been competitive in the Premiership for so long.

A miserable state of affairs.
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Go on then I'll be the 1st.... Bobby Dazzler OUT!
at 22:07 31 Oct 2016

I'll stick my neck out and say no, keep Bobby. For now. It is far too early to sack him, he's clearly still experimenting with the team but he's certainly brought a greater work ethic. Changing the manager again is no way to go about things. If we're still struggling - or down - by Feb/March, then we take a decision at the end of the year and start afresh.

That said, there are clear problems, just not the manager at the moment.

Full-backs: long-term problem that should have been addressed in the summer. Taylor and Naughton should never be first choice at PL level. This is the fault of neither manager but the board.

Midfield: needed a solid DM to replace Britton. We almost had him but again, the board...

Wingers: if we will play with them, then we need better ones. Should have bought in the summer.

Leadership: failed to replace Ashley. Didn't mind him going as we can find defenders as good as him for half the price. What we miss is his leadership and not foreseeing that is (again) a problem with procurement.

Team shape: this has not been helped by the change in manager. We need Bob to find his system and stick to it. Hopefully getting him in this early in the season at least gives him a few months to get to know the squad before the window. Hopefully we won't be too far behind by January. Remember we survived due to after-Christmas results last year.

In sum, far too early to blame a manger. As others have said, you could put a genius in charge of this team but the deeper problems will still be there.

God I'm annoyed with the board.
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Adidas and chelsea
at 21:39 11 May 2016

I sincerely doubt that Joma were the only interested party. Premier League exposure is worth a lot, even if we only get on the box against the big boys. Then again, we might actually do rather well by playing entertaining football which will gives us more exposure than other mid-table teams. It's what has happened in previous seasons.
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Who'd you have as captain next season?
at 14:17 9 May 2016

He'd be at least third in the pecking order, after Milner and Henderson.
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Just out of curiosity, what are the reasons for retaining Guidolin?
at 09:16 3 May 2016

(1) Pedigree with smaller clubs in top level.

(2) Record with us this season. Since he came we've been one of the top performers in the league in terms of results, and that's with Guidolin using Monk's squad.

(3) New ideas, particularly when given his own players to work with.

(4) Decades of experience, knowledge and international connections.

(5) Record with brining youngsters through.

(6) Stability and avoiding pressing the re-set button again.

Whilst I can understand the professional caution over announcing the manager for next season until safety is assured, the talk of Brendan drives me to a level of anger I rarely experience.

I believe Brendan would be a regressive step, favoured by those who confuse the elation he brought with promotion and survival in the Premier League with 'success' for today's Swansea City. Sure, they were heady days of justified delight, but that is not where we are now. I want to move on from those days. Brendan is not moving on.

Post script: I just noticed that none of the reasons I gave for keeping Guidolin apply to Brendan.
[Post edited 3 May 2016 9:31]
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Would you take Brendan back next season
at 21:41 21 Mar 2016

No thanks. Backward step. I'd say give Guidolin the next few games to prove himself. What's he had so far? A few weeks with a demoralised squad that was one point above relegation. Like it or hate it, we're ten points clear (yes, I know Curt's been involved, but with Guidolin's staff on the bench) and almost in the fortunate position to be able to recruit for a seasons in which our finances will get even sillier.

Wait until May, rethink, and go forwards. Brendan is backwards. Oh yes, he also had Suarez during his good Liverpool season. Even we might do well with him up front.
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Why are we giving away free food to non uk residents in Cardiff ?
at 23:03 27 Jan 2016

This thread is depressing. Part of the problem with visual identifiers such as wristbands and painted doors is that it attracts discrimination and hate crime, as recently witnessed in the UK and by individuals who might not be too far in political views and understanding of societal matters than some of the posters in this thread. See this:

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-01-20/red-front-doors-marked-out-asylum-seeker-home

Regarding the comparisons with Nazi Germany, whilst it may be easy - and correct - to claim 'well we're not Nazi Germany', one also needs to consider people's willingness in societies such as Germany's in the 1930s/40s to tolerate the normalisation of what would normally be considered extreme behaviour. This was a society which was quietly ratcheted up to commit such crimes, over a long process which included the popular stigmatisation of particular ethno-social groups. This is long documented in a mountain of rigorous historical research. A simple Amazon search on 'holocaust' or 'Nazi Germany' might be a place to start looking for sources. Michael Burleigh, for example, has a couple of very good books on the subject.

The polarising impact of such symbolic indicators of difference, combined with some of the problematic and, at worst, deliberately inflammatory language in parts of the media can easily fuel the type of hatred which leads to such attacks as were seen in Middlesbrough.

Furthermore, many on the forum seem (unsurprisingly, given some people's willingness to actually do some research themselves from peer-reviewed sources) to conflate 'migrant', 'immigrant', 'asylum seeker', and 'refugee'. I suggest a quick browse of one of the following links from different ends of the spectrum of views on the matter:

http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/policy_research/the_truth_about_asylum/the_fact

http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49c3646c137.html?gclid=CN3SscSLy8oCFcG6GwodcxkNDg

http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/70

Yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but a little bit of effort to learn a bit more about the subject before ranting like a rabid dog would not go amiss.

Please, oppose the government's position on asylum seekers, refugees, or the appropriate use of headed notepaper as much as you like, but please, try doing some reading before mouthing off.

There. Had my moan. Tally ho and good luck with the books.
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Official - Curt in for the season as manager
at 14:01 8 Jan 2016

Neither of which is necessarily a bad thing from a business point of view. Hiring a numpty on a three year deal and having to sack him within the year is not an option. Neither is hiring a supermarket-sweep type who'll hoover up even more dead wood on the exorbitant prices and salaries demanded by many in the January window.

The board have never claimed that they cannot find a manager willing to take a job in the Premiership; the implication is that there are no suitable candidates at the moment. I can completely understand why a manager would not want to take the Swans job now, but might perhaps do so in the summer, just as I can understand that a keen manager who wants want it is not the type in which the board have full confidence in their abilities.

Yes, there may have been mistakes, but there are also some wise decisions being taken here by potential managers and the board alike.
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News tomorrow
at 15:26 5 Jan 2016

It all depends if it it today now, which may be different to today. My wife tells me that today now never comes.
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1009 Not out
at 15:23 5 Jan 2016

Crikey. When I played junior cricket we only played 20 overs.

As for those bowling stats, one does wonder about the captaincy. 15 and over average for that 350 chap, and they still bowled him!
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The Secret Footballer on Monk
at 17:31 17 Dec 2015

I agree. He goes out of his way to stress the difference between 'senior player' and 'member of staff' in the nomenclature of anonymous sources.

There aren't that many staff members left. If it was Clotet, I find it staggering that Monk was not given the option for him to be sacked or, if Monk was given it, that he did not take it.
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The Daily Mail
at 12:06 16 Dec 2015

"Swansea face a race against time"?!? Really? Do we self-destruct after a certain time? I thought we were close to that point with a manager in charge...
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The worst way to pick a manager
at 09:04 11 Dec 2015

I'd second the comment that football is not a normal business. Few normal businesses, no matter how large, would have their next managing director role discussed on the back page of the Sun, and would - at best - have to contend only with the op eds in the FT.

Likewise, their results would be reported quarterly, not weekly, and not subject to intense debate by countless pundits, journos, and inebriated old farts on a Saturday night.
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A tale of two Manchester school photos: 1955 - 2015
at 09:29 10 Dec 2015

The irony of someone writing about population displacement in English on the forum of a Welsh football club full of international players is clearly lost on you.
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Mazzari
at 18:34 8 Dec 2015

Or Materazzi, Italian for nutter
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Renaming the Stadium
at 10:01 30 Jan 2015

I'd be happy with the White Rock.

I'm trying to work out whether those who are unsure of White Rock are serious in their ignorance or not. If the latter, it speaks volumes of our new fanbase.
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upcoming transferwindow
at 16:14 17 Nov 2014

Not forgetting the possible return of Miguel the Ankle...
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The Official Belguim vs Wales thread
at 16:10 17 Nov 2014

Interesting question which I'd love to see answered. Quite a few if you count Flynn's appointment as the beginning of the rise. It would also depend how how you would define 'Welsh'. I'd suggest being eligible to play for the national side.

Even in the Premiership we've used Ash, Taylor, Davies, Allen, and Jazz. I'd be surprised if Cornell has not featured on our bench either.

In a non-UK country (without a 'home nations' agreement) I'm pretty sure that you could also throw in Rangel on residency grounds, and maybe even some of the longer serving English players, like Leon and Monk.
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Ki
at 16:35 9 May 2014

Didn't Rory Fallon get picked for New Zealand?

Edit: just saw him mentioned in an earlier reply.

I think Big Den also played when he was with us.
[Post edited 9 May 2014 16:37]
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Anyone been to Plymouth?
at 22:35 15 Apr 2014

I live in Plymouth. It depends what you are looking for. Union street remains an unpleasant standard British night out. There are plenty 9f nice places. Royal William Yard is a good place to eat but out of the way of ... how can I put it ... 'run of the mill' nivht out venues. The Barbican is also good as you'll find a mixture of all.sorts of bars, pubs and venues. That is the 'marina' area but pre-dates the concept of a modern marina by some centuries. The best thing about Plymouth's night life are all the old back street pubs. Sadly over 20 closed last year alone
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