| Would you say this was racist? on 10:19 - Nov 27 with 2186 views | Bloodyhills |
| Would you say this was racist? on 18:43 - Oct 6 by JackoBoostardo |
Wow.... so may self-righteous people here tonight! Sensitive dabs.
Going back to the question, and the point in question - what here is different to what we see against US as a club?!
So get off your high horses - it's a valid question! We've seen signs calling us "Sheepshaggers" and "welsh c*nts".
And no, this thread isn't condoning anything - it's to get a debate going! Too many people seem lively enough to jump in to think the worst all the time of people.
Source of the photo? Dailymail. |
You asked the question and people are answering.
Out of curiosity do you think it's racist? |  |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 10:21 - Nov 27 with 2181 views | Bloodyhills |
| Would you say this was racist? on 18:44 - Oct 6 by Jackfath |
I have not seen a sign saying anything you've mentioned. Ever. |
Now you mention it Jackfath, i've never seen a sign as mentioned either. Might have heard a few chants though. [Post edited 27 Nov 2015 10:22]
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| Would you say this was racist? on 10:46 - Nov 27 with 2166 views | DafyddHuw |
I can't believe most people on this thread think that Jews are a race. It's a relion. By your logic, Scientologists are a race. Are you serious?
And Lisa. Out of all you Jewish friends/acquaintances, how many are married outside the faith? I bet the answer is very very close to zero. Don't you find that incredibly offensive and "racist"?
"Yes, you can marry my daughter, but not before you convert to Judaism. Im not having my family narry outside the Jewish faith".
How about that for naked "racism"? I think it's called "keeping the blood-line pure". Which, irony of ironies, is what a certain person in '30s Germany was advocating with Aryans.
I have no more or less feelings about Jews htan I do about Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, Hindus, etc. They're all tainted. None of them can claim to hold any moral high ground (except maybe Buddism, but that's not a religion (and certainly not a race)). |  | | |
| Would you say this was racist? on 12:23 - Nov 27 with 2127 views | Elward |
| Would you say this was racist? on 10:46 - Nov 27 by DafyddHuw |
I can't believe most people on this thread think that Jews are a race. It's a relion. By your logic, Scientologists are a race. Are you serious?
And Lisa. Out of all you Jewish friends/acquaintances, how many are married outside the faith? I bet the answer is very very close to zero. Don't you find that incredibly offensive and "racist"?
"Yes, you can marry my daughter, but not before you convert to Judaism. Im not having my family narry outside the Jewish faith".
How about that for naked "racism"? I think it's called "keeping the blood-line pure". Which, irony of ironies, is what a certain person in '30s Germany was advocating with Aryans.
I have no more or less feelings about Jews htan I do about Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, Hindus, etc. They're all tainted. None of them can claim to hold any moral high ground (except maybe Buddism, but that's not a religion (and certainly not a race)). |
Agreed. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus etc. Are religions, not a race. You could have African Jews, Swedish Jews even Eskimo Jews. | | | |
| Would you say this was racist? on 12:31 - Nov 27 with 2119 views | perchrockjack |
Jewish people tend to have a sense of humour | |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 13:04 - Nov 27 with 2103 views | waynekerr55 |
| Would you say this was racist? on 12:31 - Nov 27 by perchrockjack |
Jewish people tend to have a sense of humour |
Humour schmumour
Oy Vey! |  |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 13:20 - Nov 27 with 2094 views | LeonisGod |
| Would you say this was racist? on 12:23 - Nov 27 by Elward |
Agreed. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus etc. Are religions, not a race. You could have African Jews, Swedish Jews even Eskimo Jews. |
Dull fact of the day: there are more Jews living in America than in Israel (which explains a lot).
Agreed on the race question. Jews aren't considered as a separate race in any official classifications in this country. They're an ethnic group, borne out of religion. But I suppose you can have non- practicing Jews the same as you can non-practicing Christians.
Another useless fact: Aberystwyth hosts a major orthodox Jewish get together each year. I assume it's Wales' largest |  | | |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 13:41 - Nov 27 with 2086 views | ajackslad |
| Would you say this was racist? on 13:20 - Nov 27 by LeonisGod |
Dull fact of the day: there are more Jews living in America than in Israel (which explains a lot).
Agreed on the race question. Jews aren't considered as a separate race in any official classifications in this country. They're an ethnic group, borne out of religion. But I suppose you can have non- practicing Jews the same as you can non-practicing Christians.
Another useless fact: Aberystwyth hosts a major orthodox Jewish get together each year. I assume it's Wales' largest |
The university in Aber stopped renting rooms to the Jews on their get-together because they insisted on lighting candles in the rooms. The uni said it was a safety issue, the Jews said they had to light candles as it was part of their religious rituals. |  |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 15:05 - Nov 27 with 2055 views | blueytheblue |
| Would you say this was racist? on 10:46 - Nov 27 by DafyddHuw |
I can't believe most people on this thread think that Jews are a race. It's a relion. By your logic, Scientologists are a race. Are you serious?
And Lisa. Out of all you Jewish friends/acquaintances, how many are married outside the faith? I bet the answer is very very close to zero. Don't you find that incredibly offensive and "racist"?
"Yes, you can marry my daughter, but not before you convert to Judaism. Im not having my family narry outside the Jewish faith".
How about that for naked "racism"? I think it's called "keeping the blood-line pure". Which, irony of ironies, is what a certain person in '30s Germany was advocating with Aryans.
I have no more or less feelings about Jews htan I do about Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, Hindus, etc. They're all tainted. None of them can claim to hold any moral high ground (except maybe Buddism, but that's not a religion (and certainly not a race)). |
Jewis are a race. Comparing them to Scientologists on that level is pretty silly.
Can't speak for Lisa but Jews, gasp, do marry non-Jews. I should know, my wife is Jewish. I'm not. Our children are Jewish due to Jewishness occuring down the female side.
But hey, comparing your ignorant view of Jews to '30s Germany is telling I guess.
The number of ulta-orthodox Jews who have the view you prescribe to all Jews would be a low number of the totality of Jews in Britain but why ignore that salient fact when you can generalise. | |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 15:15 - Nov 27 with 2039 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Would you say this was racist? on 10:46 - Nov 27 by DafyddHuw |
I can't believe most people on this thread think that Jews are a race. It's a relion. By your logic, Scientologists are a race. Are you serious?
And Lisa. Out of all you Jewish friends/acquaintances, how many are married outside the faith? I bet the answer is very very close to zero. Don't you find that incredibly offensive and "racist"?
"Yes, you can marry my daughter, but not before you convert to Judaism. Im not having my family narry outside the Jewish faith".
How about that for naked "racism"? I think it's called "keeping the blood-line pure". Which, irony of ironies, is what a certain person in '30s Germany was advocating with Aryans.
I have no more or less feelings about Jews htan I do about Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, Hindus, etc. They're all tainted. None of them can claim to hold any moral high ground (except maybe Buddism, but that's not a religion (and certainly not a race)). |
It's both a religion and a race.
It is perfectly possible to be Jewish by race but not by religion and vice versa.
And with regard to my Jewish friends / acquaintances - well to be honest, I originally trained as an accountant in a huge London practice, so know loads!
But I have two close friends who are Jewish - one female, is married to a non Jewish man and one male who is an orthodox Jew and is married to another man (who is non Jewish) although he was married to a Jewish woman many years ago before he changed his ways 
Historically by the way, Jewish people have cared far more if they have sons who marry non Jewish girls than daughters who marry non Jewish boys - that is because Judaism passes down the mother's line, not the father's line. | | | |
| Would you say this was racist? on 15:19 - Nov 27 with 2028 views | dgt73 |
| Would you say this was racist? on 15:15 - Nov 27 by londonlisa2001 |
It's both a religion and a race.
It is perfectly possible to be Jewish by race but not by religion and vice versa.
And with regard to my Jewish friends / acquaintances - well to be honest, I originally trained as an accountant in a huge London practice, so know loads!
But I have two close friends who are Jewish - one female, is married to a non Jewish man and one male who is an orthodox Jew and is married to another man (who is non Jewish) although he was married to a Jewish woman many years ago before he changed his ways
Historically by the way, Jewish people have cared far more if they have sons who marry non Jewish girls than daughters who marry non Jewish boys - that is because Judaism passes down the mother's line, not the father's line. |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 15:19 - Nov 27 with 2028 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Would you say this was racist? on 15:05 - Nov 27 by blueytheblue |
Jewis are a race. Comparing them to Scientologists on that level is pretty silly.
Can't speak for Lisa but Jews, gasp, do marry non-Jews. I should know, my wife is Jewish. I'm not. Our children are Jewish due to Jewishness occuring down the female side.
But hey, comparing your ignorant view of Jews to '30s Germany is telling I guess.
The number of ulta-orthodox Jews who have the view you prescribe to all Jews would be a low number of the totality of Jews in Britain but why ignore that salient fact when you can generalise. |
sorry - didn't see this before I answered so a bit of repetition in my response.
Actually your point on only ultra orthodox Jews wanting people to convert - it should be noted of course that rather uniquely, Jews do not proselytise so 'making people convert' is not part of what they do. | | | |
| Would you say this was racist? on 15:26 - Nov 27 with 2023 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Would you say this was racist? on 15:19 - Nov 27 by dgt73 |
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stalking me again.
How sweet. | | | |
| Would you say this was racist? on 15:28 - Nov 27 with 2018 views | dgt73 |
| Would you say this was racist? on 15:26 - Nov 27 by londonlisa2001 |
stalking me again.
How sweet. |
Just waiting for you to start making things up......again.  | |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 15:34 - Nov 27 with 2012 views | perchrockjack |
Lisa makes good point s here.
I agree with that.
For me, Jewish people still suffer intolerance and Israelis are ritually slaughtered on the high altar of hypocrisy ..
They sure aint sending out minions to wipe out people on an ad hoc basis. | |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 15:36 - Nov 27 with 2008 views | dgt73 |
| Would you say this was racist? on 15:34 - Nov 27 by perchrockjack |
Lisa makes good point s here.
I agree with that.
For me, Jewish people still suffer intolerance and Israelis are ritually slaughtered on the high altar of hypocrisy ..
They sure aint sending out minions to wipe out people on an ad hoc basis. |
They don't have too - the yanks do that for them. | |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 15:39 - Nov 27 with 2005 views | perchrockjack |
disagree dgt but I hope we live long enough to carry out debating | |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 15:51 - Nov 27 with 1989 views | dgt73 |
| Would you say this was racist? on 15:39 - Nov 27 by perchrockjack |
disagree dgt but I hope we live long enough to carry out debating |
What's to disagree about - are you saying the Americans don't ? | |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 15:53 - Nov 27 with 1986 views | perchrockjack |
I might be and if you re gonna to be nasty to me then I ll knob off right away | |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 15:54 - Nov 27 with 1985 views | dgt73 |
| Would you say this was racist? on 15:53 - Nov 27 by perchrockjack |
I might be and if you re gonna to be nasty to me then I ll knob off right away |
It's ok to admit you're wrong. | |
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| Would you say this was racist? on 15:55 - Nov 27 with 1985 views | blueytheblue |
| Would you say this was racist? on 15:19 - Nov 27 by londonlisa2001 |
sorry - didn't see this before I answered so a bit of repetition in my response.
Actually your point on only ultra orthodox Jews wanting people to convert - it should be noted of course that rather uniquely, Jews do not proselytise so 'making people convert' is not part of what they do. |
Indeed - in my desire to rant at the ignorance shown I also forgot to mention that converting is made incredibly difficult to discourage people from doing so lightly. | |
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