| Sh*t it has to be guidolin 01:15 - May 8 with 9111 views | KingBony |
guys, I've had my doubts since he came in but feck me he has to stay doesn't he?
I'd actually feel like sh*t if he's not here next season :( he's deserved it hasn't he?
Yes there have been a few questionable games and subs but surely we can't ignore what he's done can we?
The worst thing is I'm typing this because I believe he's already gone but I'm struggling with that.
He deserves another go doesn't he :( |  |
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| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 11:29 - May 8 with 2459 views | Glyn1 |
Here's our results since Christmas, measured against the same fixtures from last season, which were spread out throughout that season and which included Bony in some of the matches. So far, we're 8 points better off.
West Brom (H): Won both
Palace (A): Lost / Drew (= +1 point)
Southampton (H): Lost both
Spurs (A): Lost both
Arsenal (A): Won both
Norwich (H): Not applicable
Bournemouth (A): Not applicable
Aston Villa (H): Won both
Stoke (A): Lost / Drew (= +1 point)
Chelsea (H): Lost / Won (= +3 points)
Newcastle (A): Won / Lost (= -3 points)
Leicester (A): Lost both
Liverpool (H): Lost / Won (= +3 points)
West Ham (A): Lost / Won (= + 3 points)
Man City (H): Lost / ?
Like most people here, I think that the decision has already been made and they are going through with it. In that case, it is a classic case of someone cutting off their nose to spite their face. We are going to gift an outstanding manager to one of our relegation rivals (i.e. Watford) all for the sake of replacing him with an inferior manager (Rodgers).
It may be wishful thinking on my part, but if Francesco could take the 56 points from last season and add another 8 points to them, then we would be fighting for a Champions League spot.
It's a no-brainer, Huw, sign him! [Post edited 8 May 2016 11:32]
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| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 11:33 - May 8 with 2445 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 11:29 - May 8 by Glyn1 |
Here's our results since Christmas, measured against the same fixtures from last season, which were spread out throughout that season and which included Bony in some of the matches. So far, we're 8 points better off.
West Brom (H): Won both
Palace (A): Lost / Drew (= +1 point)
Southampton (H): Lost both
Spurs (A): Lost both
Arsenal (A): Won both
Norwich (H): Not applicable
Bournemouth (A): Not applicable
Aston Villa (H): Won both
Stoke (A): Lost / Drew (= +1 point)
Chelsea (H): Lost / Won (= +3 points)
Newcastle (A): Won / Lost (= -3 points)
Leicester (A): Lost both
Liverpool (H): Lost / Won (= +3 points)
West Ham (A): Lost / Won (= + 3 points)
Man City (H): Lost / ?
Like most people here, I think that the decision has already been made and they are going through with it. In that case, it is a classic case of someone cutting off their nose to spite their face. We are going to gift an outstanding manager to one of our relegation rivals (i.e. Watford) all for the sake of replacing him with an inferior manager (Rodgers).
It may be wishful thinking on my part, but if Francesco could take the 56 points from last season and add another 8 points to them, then we would be fighting for a Champions League spot.
It's a no-brainer, Huw, sign him! [Post edited 8 May 2016 11:32]
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Aye, and if reports are even close to being correct, we're going to pay that inferior manager two or three times as much as we would be paying the superior one.
Anyone seen Huw's marbles? |  |
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| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 11:36 - May 8 with 2439 views | exiledclaseboy |
"It may be wishful thinking on my part, but if Francesco could take the 56 points from last season and add another 8 points to them, then we would be fighting for a Champions League spot."
That's the most bizarre reasoning yet. This forum's gone mental. |  |
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| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 12:09 - May 8 with 2382 views | jack247 |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 11:36 - May 8 by exiledclaseboy |
"It may be wishful thinking on my part, but if Francesco could take the 56 points from last season and add another 8 points to them, then we would be fighting for a Champions League spot."
That's the most bizarre reasoning yet. This forum's gone mental. |
It's not really, it's just stupidly worded.
'We got 56 points under Monk in his good season, another 8 would have seen is there or thereabouts for the CL places. Is Guidolin capable of improving on our best finish by another 8 points'
I don't see it happening, but I can kind of see the logic. Surely you don't think he was talking about adding two seasons points together? |  | | |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 12:10 - May 8 with 2378 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 12:09 - May 8 by jack247 |
It's not really, it's just stupidly worded.
'We got 56 points under Monk in his good season, another 8 would have seen is there or thereabouts for the CL places. Is Guidolin capable of improving on our best finish by another 8 points'
I don't see it happening, but I can kind of see the logic. Surely you don't think he was talking about adding two seasons points together? |
F*ck knows. But now you've explained it it makes more sense. Still a logical leap mind. | |
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| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 12:22 - May 8 with 2358 views | jack247 |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 12:10 - May 8 by exiledclaseboy |
F*ck knows. But now you've explained it it makes more sense. Still a logical leap mind. |
Yes and it's still massively ambitious. | | | |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 12:22 - May 8 with 2358 views | nice_to_michu |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 11:33 - May 8 by Joe_bradshaw |
Aye, and if reports are even close to being correct, we're going to pay that inferior manager two or three times as much as we would be paying the superior one.
Anyone seen Huw's marbles? |
I would love to see Rodgers back here though.
He's bound to have improved as a manager since his time away from the Swans too. |  | | |
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| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 12:46 - May 8 with 2322 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 12:22 - May 8 by nice_to_michu |
I would love to see Rodgers back here though.
He's bound to have improved as a manager since his time away from the Swans too. |
Well yes. He's blown over 300 million since....... |  |
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| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 12:49 - May 8 with 2310 views | jack247 |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 12:22 - May 8 by nice_to_michu |
I would love to see Rodgers back here though.
He's bound to have improved as a manager since his time away from the Swans too. |
He probably has. I doubt he is at Guidolins level though. Still, if he does come back, I really don't see it being a disaster. | | | |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 17:06 - May 8 with 2210 views | Davillin |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 11:29 - May 8 by Glyn1 |
Here's our results since Christmas, measured against the same fixtures from last season, which were spread out throughout that season and which included Bony in some of the matches. So far, we're 8 points better off.
West Brom (H): Won both
Palace (A): Lost / Drew (= +1 point)
Southampton (H): Lost both
Spurs (A): Lost both
Arsenal (A): Won both
Norwich (H): Not applicable
Bournemouth (A): Not applicable
Aston Villa (H): Won both
Stoke (A): Lost / Drew (= +1 point)
Chelsea (H): Lost / Won (= +3 points)
Newcastle (A): Won / Lost (= -3 points)
Leicester (A): Lost both
Liverpool (H): Lost / Won (= +3 points)
West Ham (A): Lost / Won (= + 3 points)
Man City (H): Lost / ?
Like most people here, I think that the decision has already been made and they are going through with it. In that case, it is a classic case of someone cutting off their nose to spite their face. We are going to gift an outstanding manager to one of our relegation rivals (i.e. Watford) all for the sake of replacing him with an inferior manager (Rodgers).
It may be wishful thinking on my part, but if Francesco could take the 56 points from last season and add another 8 points to them, then we would be fighting for a Champions League spot.
It's a no-brainer, Huw, sign him! [Post edited 8 May 2016 11:32]
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Some might find this a bit clearer:
The opponents are arranged in the order they were played in the second half of the season so that they would match up. [Post edited 8 May 2016 17:09]
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| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 17:48 - May 8 with 2139 views | icecoldjack |
The new swansea way is to make sure where possible we strengthen our rivals if not with players then maybe managers like FG who have cut their teeth learnt the league and are ready to use the knowledge to improve.
I'm hoping this is all a classic huw smoke and mirrors ploy but it looks like FG won't be the man . |  | | |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 18:14 - May 8 with 2084 views | jack247 |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 17:48 - May 8 by icecoldjack |
The new swansea way is to make sure where possible we strengthen our rivals if not with players then maybe managers like FG who have cut their teeth learnt the league and are ready to use the knowledge to improve.
I'm hoping this is all a classic huw smoke and mirrors ploy but it looks like FG won't be the man . |
Depressingly likely post. | | | |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 19:30 - May 8 with 1893 views | EasternJack |
A change of coach is a done deal according to Jason M at the BBC. He was openly discussing this with a friend of mine a few days ago.
A bit of a shame if true, the only context is accept us if this goes back to December's shenanigans - ie the deal was done then and Curt/Guidio were always interim - regardless of performance.
Still secretly holding out for Bielsa
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| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 21:11 - May 8 with 1836 views | Davillin |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 17:15 - May 8 by jack247 |
Thanks for the graph, but this is one of those situations that doesn't require one. We had an inexperienced manager for the first half of the season and we were awful. We had someone who really knew his stuff in the second and we improved beyond recognition. Nothing more to it. |
For you there might be "nothing more to it," but for some, it is clearer if quantified. Even moreso for some if made visual.
In both cases, there is a tangential benefit -- the issue of "subjectivity" is avoided.
Fortunately for all of us, my statistical graphs are up there for only those who find them useful. | |
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| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 21:18 - May 8 with 1823 views | jack247 |
| Sh*t it has to be guidolin on 21:11 - May 8 by Davillin |
For you there might be "nothing more to it," but for some, it is clearer if quantified. Even moreso for some if made visual.
In both cases, there is a tangential benefit -- the issue of "subjectivity" is avoided.
Fortunately for all of us, my statistical graphs are up there for only those who find them useful. |
I'm not knocking the graph. I enjoyed the recent ones that showed our relegation rivals maximum points hauls. Found them more useful than looking at the table and guessing possibilities.
Just saying in this instance, what is depicts is that results have improved dramatically since Guidolin (and Curtis) took over from Monk. Everyone already knew that.
If some find a graph some kind of reaffirmation of that though, then fair enough. | | | |
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