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Queen gets a £6m annual increase 12:49 - Jun 27 with 12943 viewsNortholt_Rs

....from public funds! Good old Liz! Makes ya feel right proud dunnit!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40412343

[Post edited 27 Jun 2017 12:50]

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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:36 - Jun 27 with 1951 viewsMytch_QPR

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:30 - Jun 27 by 1BobbyHazell

I'm sorry if you are upset by my reply Mytch. Just my honest opinion of what I felt was quite an unnecessary and over simplistic attempt to brexit-ise a thread.


Thanks, Bobby - I was sort of joking (I promised myself after some of the Brexit threads that I would stay off these - I could feel my blood pressure rising!)

To paraphrase Gandhi, even if I am in a minority of one that doesn't mean I am wrong.

"Thank you for supporting Queens Park Rangers Steep Staircase"... and I thought I'd signed up for a rollercoaster.
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:37 - Jun 27 with 1943 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:36 - Jun 27 by Mytch_QPR

Thanks, Bobby - I was sort of joking (I promised myself after some of the Brexit threads that I would stay off these - I could feel my blood pressure rising!)

To paraphrase Gandhi, even if I am in a minority of one that doesn't mean I am wrong.


I like that line!

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:40 - Jun 27 with 1940 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

It's only mathematical coincidence that you feel loyal to the Queen.

If you'd been born in Derry / Londonderry under the same conditions you may feel differently.

If you'd been born in a hut in the depths of the Congo you wouldn't even know she existed.

The only loyalty we owe is to each other.

All the pomp and ceremony is nice, but it won't feed your kids.
[Post edited 27 Jun 2017 14:41]
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:40 - Jun 27 with 1936 viewsMytch_QPR

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:37 - Jun 27 by BrianMcCarthy

I like that line!


Comes in handy when I'm arguing with the wife (I still lose).
[Post edited 27 Jun 2017 14:43]

"Thank you for supporting Queens Park Rangers Steep Staircase"... and I thought I'd signed up for a rollercoaster.
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:44 - Jun 27 with 1926 viewscolinallcars

The Queen's position is largely titular. She has never actually refused to accept a prime minister when approached after an election although some say she came close with Harold Wilson.

I think as long as the majority of folk want her to stay - and most I speak to do - then stay she does.
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:48 - Jun 27 with 1912 views1BobbyHazell

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:36 - Jun 27 by Mytch_QPR

Thanks, Bobby - I was sort of joking (I promised myself after some of the Brexit threads that I would stay off these - I could feel my blood pressure rising!)

To paraphrase Gandhi, even if I am in a minority of one that doesn't mean I am wrong.


Fair do's brother. I think after two years of being a brexiter who supports Corbyn I've been battling on all fronts and have become sensitive to generalisations about group beliefs that lack the intelligence of nuanced ones and have seen me labelled as all sorts of things that I most definitely am not.

I appreciate it may sound strange to a lot of people but I really think as a country we have a chance to move forward in a less polarised and divisive manner. Less simplistic categorisation is definitely an important kickstart part of the process.
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:55 - Jun 27 with 1896 viewsvegasranger

She's worth every penny. Pro stay ( wanted us in the Euro as well ) and loyal subject to the day I die.
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:56 - Jun 27 with 1890 viewsCliff

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 13:26 - Jun 27 by stevec

If I didn't know better I'd be starting to think Sir Jezza is just another lazy cúnt who's lived off the public purse his entire life.


I've worked almost my entire career in either academia or the NHS, none of which turns a profit, so do you put me, and come to think of it all teachers, lecturers and NHS staff in the same category of "lazy cúnt" ?
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 15:02 - Jun 27 with 1875 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:56 - Jun 27 by Cliff

I've worked almost my entire career in either academia or the NHS, none of which turns a profit, so do you put me, and come to think of it all teachers, lecturers and NHS staff in the same category of "lazy cúnt" ?


Save your breath Cliff.

Take some comfort in knowing he'll say it to the wrong person one day and when he has his nose broken it'll be some 'lazy cúnt' like you or me that fixes it.
[Post edited 27 Jun 2017 15:06]
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 15:03 - Jun 27 with 1873 viewsdaveB

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 13:07 - Jun 27 by Antti_Heinola

Doubt it's an either/or Dave.
When literally everything else is being cut it's a disgrace.


of course when you consider the cuts it's a disgrace to spent anything but the Government have given handouts to MP's who lost their seat and DUP in the last fortnight so whats another 6 million
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 15:11 - Jun 27 with 1862 viewsNortholt_Rs

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:40 - Jun 27 by BazzaInTheLoft

It's only mathematical coincidence that you feel loyal to the Queen.

If you'd been born in Derry / Londonderry under the same conditions you may feel differently.

If you'd been born in a hut in the depths of the Congo you wouldn't even know she existed.

The only loyalty we owe is to each other.

All the pomp and ceremony is nice, but it won't feed your kids.
[Post edited 27 Jun 2017 14:41]


It feeds her kids though...and theirs....pretty well too.

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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 15:12 - Jun 27 with 1857 viewsNortholt_Rs

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 13:08 - Jun 27 by stevec

Yeah, she makes more than she takes.

Be interested to know whether Jeremy Corbyn has ever been in a line of work where you actually turn a profit. Y'know, that stuff that pays for public spending.


I doubt Corbyn's ancestors stole land off the people though right? That's how the Crown Estate came into being.
[Post edited 27 Jun 2017 15:14]

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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 15:23 - Jun 27 with 1827 viewsTacticalR

Don't forget the yacht. That is Liam Fox's trump card to stimulate post-Brexit trade.


Air hostess clique

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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 15:40 - Jun 27 with 1783 viewsjohncharles

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 15:03 - Jun 27 by daveB

of course when you consider the cuts it's a disgrace to spent anything but the Government have given handouts to MP's who lost their seat and DUP in the last fortnight so whats another 6 million


£6 million would buy a lot of sprinkler systems

Strong and stable my arse.

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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 15:45 - Jun 27 with 1775 viewsQPR_John

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:34 - Jun 27 by BrianMcCarthy

The day after the election she was the only person in Britain with any power. It was she that had the power to say yes or no to May as to whether she could form a Government.


Let's have a bit of reality here, after the election Teresa May was the PM not only as incumbent but as leader of the largest party. She went to the Palace to tell the queen she could command the support of parliament and the queen was bound to accept. No way was she in power in any true sense. Now an elected head of state as many want would be in a far different position and would really hold power in such a situation
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 15:53 - Jun 27 with 1759 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 15:45 - Jun 27 by QPR_John

Let's have a bit of reality here, after the election Teresa May was the PM not only as incumbent but as leader of the largest party. She went to the Palace to tell the queen she could command the support of parliament and the queen was bound to accept. No way was she in power in any true sense. Now an elected head of state as many want would be in a far different position and would really hold power in such a situation


I know what you're saying, of course, John, and I realise that it's been ages since a Monarch refused assent. But the Queen was not bound to accept and s/he can refuse anytime s/he wants. And that just seems crazy to me that an unelected person has that power.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 16:07 - Jun 27 with 1729 viewsQPR_John

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 15:53 - Jun 27 by BrianMcCarthy

I know what you're saying, of course, John, and I realise that it's been ages since a Monarch refused assent. But the Queen was not bound to accept and s/he can refuse anytime s/he wants. And that just seems crazy to me that an unelected person has that power.


Without a written constitution you are correct in theory but in reality it is such a remote possiblilty I don't see it is anything to comment on. I come back to the point the Queen only has that "power" because parliament has said so and can just as easily vote to take it away we are not talking about a dictator here. In theory any leader with a majority can be refused by the Queen to be appointed PM but it just would not happen. There are far more crazy things in this world than the Queen having ceremonials powers

Many want the monarchy removed nobody has ever suggested the Queen would use her power to keep it. If she was that powerful would that not be th case.
[Post edited 27 Jun 2017 16:11]
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 16:16 - Jun 27 with 1713 viewskensalriser

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 16:07 - Jun 27 by QPR_John

Without a written constitution you are correct in theory but in reality it is such a remote possiblilty I don't see it is anything to comment on. I come back to the point the Queen only has that "power" because parliament has said so and can just as easily vote to take it away we are not talking about a dictator here. In theory any leader with a majority can be refused by the Queen to be appointed PM but it just would not happen. There are far more crazy things in this world than the Queen having ceremonials powers

Many want the monarchy removed nobody has ever suggested the Queen would use her power to keep it. If she was that powerful would that not be th case.
[Post edited 27 Jun 2017 16:11]


The Queen's power is entirely nominal. If she tried to excercise it in any way other than the conventional she would cause a constitutional crisis which would result in either her removal or the abolition of the monarchy.

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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 16:22 - Jun 27 with 1706 viewsDorse

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:40 - Jun 27 by BazzaInTheLoft

It's only mathematical coincidence that you feel loyal to the Queen.

If you'd been born in Derry / Londonderry under the same conditions you may feel differently.

If you'd been born in a hut in the depths of the Congo you wouldn't even know she existed.

The only loyalty we owe is to each other.

All the pomp and ceremony is nice, but it won't feed your kids.
[Post edited 27 Jun 2017 14:41]



'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!'

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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 16:28 - Jun 27 with 1690 viewsGloucs_R

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 15:40 - Jun 27 by johncharles

£6 million would buy a lot of sprinkler systems


Or Iphones and Sky TV for so many council estates.

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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 16:31 - Jun 27 with 1690 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 16:07 - Jun 27 by QPR_John

Without a written constitution you are correct in theory but in reality it is such a remote possiblilty I don't see it is anything to comment on. I come back to the point the Queen only has that "power" because parliament has said so and can just as easily vote to take it away we are not talking about a dictator here. In theory any leader with a majority can be refused by the Queen to be appointed PM but it just would not happen. There are far more crazy things in this world than the Queen having ceremonials powers

Many want the monarchy removed nobody has ever suggested the Queen would use her power to keep it. If she was that powerful would that not be th case.
[Post edited 27 Jun 2017 16:11]


I think that they're all valid points, to be fair. I also think that every Nation should have somebody outside of and seperate from Parliament with powers to regulate Parliament. I just think that that person should be elected by and answerable to the citizens of that Nation, and anything else leaves me bemused and scratching my head.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 16:42 - Jun 27 with 1664 viewsjohncharles

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 16:28 - Jun 27 by Gloucs_R

Or Iphones and Sky TV for so many council estates.


A tad cynical considering the very recent deaths at Grenfell

Strong and stable my arse.

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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 17:04 - Jun 27 with 1633 viewsNortholt_Rs

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 16:42 - Jun 27 by johncharles

A tad cynical considering the very recent deaths at Grenfell


Come on JC - you know all of us who come from, or still live on, a council estate are benefit scrounging scumbags. I know where I think that extra £6million should be spent - and it's not on a hereditary billionairess. Although that's a mere droplet in the ocean compared to the £369m (I kid you not) which has been earmarked to pay for the Buckingham Palace refurb. Yes I know 'it belongs to the nation' - how about putting some of those poor buggers from Grenfell Tower up there for a while then?
[Post edited 27 Jun 2017 17:07]

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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 17:05 - Jun 27 with 1628 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 16:28 - Jun 27 by Gloucs_R

Or Iphones and Sky TV for so many council estates.


Sneery contempt. Delightful.
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Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 17:08 - Jun 27 with 1623 viewsstevec

Queen gets a £6m annual increase on 14:56 - Jun 27 by Cliff

I've worked almost my entire career in either academia or the NHS, none of which turns a profit, so do you put me, and come to think of it all teachers, lecturers and NHS staff in the same category of "lazy cúnt" ?


Already explained that earlier, see reply to easthertR.

I was clearly talking about those who spend our money not earn it, hence reference to Corbyn.
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