| Immigration Costs an example 12:03 - May 2 with 603 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Yesterday about 900 people crossed the channel, the Government is now paying an average of £41,000 a year to house an illegal migrant.
In housing costs alone that will cost us nearly £37 Million a year just for one days crossings, at 900 a day the bill is £13.5 Billion.
Those who say illegal migration is not a problem are at best misled.
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| Immigration Costs an example on 12:29 - May 2 with 566 views | raynor94 |
I see the Dragon Hotel once the jewel in the crown of the town centre, is now being used for the homeless.
The owners of establishments like this can only see £ signs |  |
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| Immigration Costs an example on 13:29 - May 2 with 533 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Immigration Costs an example on 12:29 - May 2 by raynor94 |
I see the Dragon Hotel once the jewel in the crown of the town centre, is now being used for the homeless.
The owners of establishments like this can only see £ signs |
We've not enough housing , so we let in a load of people, pay through our noses to house them whilst people who have grown up here and pay taxes can't get decent accommodation. | |
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| Immigration Costs an example on 18:03 - May 2 with 490 views | controversial_jack |
| Immigration Costs an example on 12:29 - May 2 by raynor94 |
I see the Dragon Hotel once the jewel in the crown of the town centre, is now being used for the homeless.
The owners of establishments like this can only see £ signs |
They are in the business to make money, it's not a charity |  | | |
| Immigration Costs an example on 18:20 - May 2 with 485 views | felixstowe_jack |
When you add in free health care and education the cost is astronomical. | |
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| Immigration Costs an example on 18:45 - May 2 with 458 views | raynor94 |
| Immigration Costs an example on 18:03 - May 2 by controversial_jack |
They are in the business to make money, it's not a charity |
Fair play nobody does trolling like you👏 | |
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| Immigration Costs an example on 19:28 - May 2 with 444 views | AnotherJohn |
It would be interesting to have an accurate lifetime cost of the average non-Western illegal immigrant to the UK taxpayer. I have seen reports of a Dutch study saying the lifetime cost there is about 620,000 euros. Even for the average non-Western migrant (i.e. including legal migrants), it is about 300,000 euros. When one considers externalities such as security costs, collateral damage, and necessary extra infrastructure, the total real cost must be astronomical.
https://miwi-institut.de/archives/2028#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20University [Post edited 2 May 19:52]
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| Immigration Costs an example on 19:37 - May 2 with 441 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Immigration Costs an example on 19:28 - May 2 by AnotherJohn |
It would be interesting to have an accurate lifetime cost of the average non-Western illegal immigrant to the UK taxpayer. I have seen reports of a Dutch study saying the lifetime cost there is about 620,000 euros. Even for the average non-Western migrant (i.e. including legal migrants), it is about 300,000 euros. When one considers externalities such as security costs, collateral damage, and necessary extra infrastructure, the total real cost must be astronomical.
https://miwi-institut.de/archives/2028#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20University [Post edited 2 May 19:52]
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620 Euros, that 528 quid today and with this years "new arrivals" apparently being over 10k then that's over another 5 million quid.
In 2022 there were over 45k so they added around 24 million to the bill. How much can we afford? we're probably already well past that amount. To cut our costs back to a manageable amount we need to not just stop the boat people but send a considerable number of those already here home.
Thing is, saying that will have a large number of people crying it's racist etc. | | | |
| Immigration Costs an example on 07:32 - May 3 with 362 views | Scotia |
| Immigration Costs an example on 19:28 - May 2 by AnotherJohn |
It would be interesting to have an accurate lifetime cost of the average non-Western illegal immigrant to the UK taxpayer. I have seen reports of a Dutch study saying the lifetime cost there is about 620,000 euros. Even for the average non-Western migrant (i.e. including legal migrants), it is about 300,000 euros. When one considers externalities such as security costs, collateral damage, and necessary extra infrastructure, the total real cost must be astronomical.
https://miwi-institut.de/archives/2028#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20University [Post edited 2 May 19:52]
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Worth pointing out that that study was commissioned by Gert Wilders Party for Freedom. The Dutch version of Reform. | | | |
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| Immigration Costs an example on 08:48 - May 3 with 316 views | Boundy |
| Immigration Costs an example on 18:03 - May 2 by controversial_jack |
They are in the business to make money, it's not a charity |
Has Serco be in touch with you yet ? I recall you said you were in the rental market. | |
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| Immigration Costs an example on 09:52 - May 3 with 279 views | controversial_jack |
| Immigration Costs an example on 08:48 - May 3 by Boundy |
Has Serco be in touch with you yet ? I recall you said you were in the rental market. |
My properties are occupied, but i'll keep it in mind | | | |
| Immigration Costs an example on 10:09 - May 3 with 275 views | Scotia |
The key take from that is :-
"Labour migrants' net contribution is positive" that's exactly as it should be. The vast majority of migrants are labour migrants.
It does go on to say that asylum seekers, family migrants and students have a negative impact. I'm not surprised at the first two, but would assume students make a significant positive impact in the UK. They basically keep universities in business and universities are one of the biggest employers in most towns. Perhaps the Dutch system is different. | | | |
| Immigration Costs an example on 12:30 - May 3 with 246 views | max936 |
| Immigration Costs an example on 18:45 - May 2 by raynor94 |
Fair play nobody does trolling like you👏 |
Don't indulge him is the answer Rayns, I just don't understand people who indulge him and one or two other's. |  |
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| Immigration Costs an example on 20:16 - May 3 with 190 views | AnotherJohn |
| Immigration Costs an example on 10:09 - May 3 by Scotia |
The key take from that is :-
"Labour migrants' net contribution is positive" that's exactly as it should be. The vast majority of migrants are labour migrants.
It does go on to say that asylum seekers, family migrants and students have a negative impact. I'm not surprised at the first two, but would assume students make a significant positive impact in the UK. They basically keep universities in business and universities are one of the biggest employers in most towns. Perhaps the Dutch system is different. |
My claim was about non-Western immigrants, who according to all three of the studies mentioned have a negative fiscal impact. It is true this is a complicated issue with a different picture for different groups, but the overall picture seems much less rosy than people were claiming a few years ago. The Dutch researchers write: "Only 20% of all immigrants make a positive lifetime net contribution to the public budget. Groups with large contributions come from Scandinavia, the Anglo-Saxon world and a few other countries like France and Japan."
With students, I imagine fiscal impact is affected by the number of dependents they bring, in many cases more than you might suppose. One PhD student known to me brought her husband and 4 children, which I admit is pretty exceptional. They have all returned to their home country now,
Edited to insert quote I should have added. [Post edited 3 May 20:28]
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| Immigration Costs an example on 21:44 - May 4 with 79 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
He seems to understand that calling people with concerns about the impact of immigration right wing and Nazis does not address the real issues with immigration. | |
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| Immigration Costs an example on 00:57 - May 5 with 35 views | Robbie |
The appalling Government we have now led by the fraud Two Tier Kier pledged to stop the small boats crossings ASAP when elected , that has turned out well mush .
Pritti Patel and the last lot huffed and puffed but again were useless failures in tackling this issue , tied up in knots by red tape and civil rights judges scared to make any real laws .
Reform will never Govern but the the arguments they create will make people sit up .
Protest vote or not , my ballot box X at the next opportunity is already decided . | | | |
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