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at 10:58 5 May 2025

Yes, detective work. Exactly. Something you would not allude to if I was not over the target, and your were a normal fan.

Get back to your job Christian.

This is the pits.
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at 10:38 5 May 2025

The amount of detailed inside info posted, including
- running down marti and his style of mgmt
- alluding to a change coming with Ben Williams
- fees given as 800k for Varane, but conveniently not drawing attention to the dud transfers of Madsen and Celar fees of 3.5m and 2.5m
- full transfer analysis provided, including Harvey Vale, which itself is quite revealing
- and perhaps the big reveal of all - the extreme defensive nature of the post, with repeated posts, strongly point to one personality at the club in particular.
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at 22:04 4 May 2025

How about… Christian?

Might tell the truth for once. Second thoughts, nah.
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at 17:40 4 May 2025

Ok, Christian.
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at 13:01 4 May 2025

This degenerate PR campaign is the absolute pits.

Nourry out.
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at 11:07 4 May 2025

Anyone reading / analysing this site would know the cheese introduction.

What’s clear is that there are a number of new accounts all popping up supporting Nourry, yet deriding Cifuentes. Funny that. Cifuentes is easily our most popular manager since Warnock.

Twitter is easy to run AI bots and manipulate the narrative with kids. Messageboards with adults that have been there for years, with posters known far and wide, far less so. And it sticks out like a sore thumb.

But the sad reality is that stooping to these levels of fan manipulation versus letting results, performances and signings speak for themselves, is frankly absurd.

And it tells everyone everything they need to know about what is going on at QPR behind the scenes.
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Cifuentes on gardening leave
at 11:01 1 May 2025

Totally agree, and definitely not defending him.
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Cifuentes on gardening leave
at 23:55 30 Apr 2025

Ruben is majority shareholder and owner at nearly 80%. Shareholder voting is proportional to ownership. He outvotes everyone.
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Cifuentes on gardening leave
at 23:40 30 Apr 2025

This process and politics are such.

Ruben is taking his exclusive council from Hoos AND Nourry - who are both in cohorts and lockstep.

But Hoos hired Nourry and has a very unhealthy vested interest in the boy wonder proving himself (at ALL costs), otherwise quite simply Hoos (as he is more than aware) is also out of a job for such an absurd, outrageous, frankly negligent appointment and recommendation to the board.

In clives analogy of mummy and daddy breakup, Ruben is being presented with a completely one sided (and totally manipulated and dangerous) viewpoint. There is no kind of intermediary and no lawyer to balance proceedings from different sides (coach vs DOF/CEO/Chairman. And certainly no jury.

Hoos and Nourry are the lawyers, the jury, and the judge. All rolled into one.

Ruben if you are reading this messageboard, time to dig deep and trust NO one.
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Cifuentes on gardening leave
at 23:45 29 Apr 2025

Lee Hoos is doing extremely well to avoid being associated with this absolute sh!t show.

But he, along with his appointed sidekick Kim Jung Nourry, are both behind this concoction.

How on earth was it that Les went, Ramsay went. But Hoos stayed and got promoted?

The owners urgently need to clean house and get some new counsel.

We are in a death spiral.
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Marti, stick or twist?
at 23:12 24 Apr 2025

Correct. The likes of Kolli, Tuck (got the quality but needs to bulk up significantly) and Sutton are Ramsays legacy, as are several more further down including Kennedy.

And whilst I agree with Nourry fast tracking of talent through the age groups, which is standard practice, and long overdue, ie playing a 16 year old at u18s level etc, it doesn’t necessarily make them any higher quality that the previous batch we’ve had over the years. Proof will be in the pudding re who and what is produced, in time.

Nourry’s near term input separate from Ramsays legacy are those in the u21 group who have been bought in from outside with a fee: friel, equerdinha, O’Brien, Dillon.
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Marti, stick or twist?
at 20:01 24 Apr 2025

Football strategy and operations is the purview of the DOF. The football side of operations.

The non-football operations side of business is Lee Hoos department. Finance, marketing et al.

It’s not harsh at all, it’s a fact. This, from the man who distanced himself from football strategy and operations and is on record. For the record.
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Marti, stick or twist?
at 22:01 23 Apr 2025

Lee Hoos has a LOT to answer for. And still heavily involved.
[Post edited 23 Apr 22:04]
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Marti, stick or twist?
at 21:45 23 Apr 2025

You are missing the critical point. The strategy of DOF, which is an absolute must in the modern game, only truly works if you appoint someone who a. Has earned his stripes and b. Has proven his success.

However, if you appoint a lad 2-3 years out of uni, with no permanent full time job to speak of, never been on a payroll, and no background managing a team of 2, let alone 100+, then know it won’t likely end well.

There’s DOFs and then there’s that.
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Marti, stick or twist?
at 21:34 23 Apr 2025

Isn’t it just.

Unfortunately they’ve left Lee Hoos in charge. Who hired Nourry, who reports into him. Both are in lockstep. Neither with an ounce of football strategy or operations experience between them. If you thought Hoos had an oversized, unchecked ego, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

There’s several of us been hinting at the elephant in the room for some time. It was always going to come to this. And will be the same for the next coach. And the next one.
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We need a Director of Football
at 22:14 6 Apr 2025

If you do it on money spent, not on player volume, and success per spend - as any good recruitment operation is judged by - it changes considerably to the negative.

The big money marquee signings have been total flops and will affect our club for years to come. Making a mistake on a dev squad player, like a Bennie, is not the same as a multi-million one in Madsen. Everything is not created equal.

When you finally get to spend money, like we did this year, you just cannot be getting the big ones wrong.
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We need a Director of Football
at 20:45 6 Apr 2025

Probably was a 9/10 if they had run the process effectively. Doesn’t take a lot to analyse DOF performance across Europe, find a few up and coming ones, and create a short list.

Instead, they gave it to a guy a couple of years out of uni, with not even a permanent job to his name. No background in managing people or teams. And literally no background in anything.
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We need a Director of Football
at 17:46 6 Apr 2025

Nourry is on record for shopping in European markets and other World markets as they provide a much bigger pool for finding value. It was one of many changes driven by Nourry as the new DOF.
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We need a Director of Football
at 15:31 6 Apr 2025

Perhaps it has something to do with the owners own upbringing and careers.

Unlike most, who have to work their way up and become experts in their field, honing their skills and experience over years, they were born into not only money, but business empires, and went right in at the top. See Amit and Ruben.

So perhaps their core belief system, and their own career paths, that one “just needs to be given a chance to show what they can do” vs “one requires experience, knowledge and expertise as a precursor for success”, may well be influencing their decision-making when making senior QPR appointments.

There is most definitely a (negative) trend of handing out senior positions to those who would not be in the running at any other club, let alone make it as the chosen candidate. So we get this continuous “learning on the job” culture, barely treading water, making mistake after mistake, with recruitment, contracts, academy etc.

Rather than learn from it, and seek out those who have been there and done it, they continue to make wild, high-risk decisions, none more wild that the appointment of Nourry - a candidate who has zero experience of CEO or DOF. And then give him both roles. Mind-boggling. That said Lee Hoos also has a key role in all of this, having bought Nourry into the club and recommended him to the owners. Still very much in the background.
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Development side .
at 20:43 1 Apr 2025

It’s not really challenging the information from what I am reading, more berating it. It is overly aggressive, which says more about the accusers, than the sharers. And I don’t mean you specifically DM. Information is being shared with QPR fans in good faith. Either keep an open mind, or ignore it.
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