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Thread | Kyle Walker-Peters
at 11:45 11 Jun 2025
Wherever KWP goes I will metaphorically wish him all the best and as far as I am concerned he will always be welcome back to St Marys and I hope he will always receive a warm reception. I think his attitude has been exemplary. His professionalism has never been in doubt. I appreciate that should be the expected norm but in truth, all too often it isn't with quite a few players.
But (and maybe I am being thick here - quite possible), why are we not seeking for him to remain? Has he said he will not play again at Championship level? Is there known interest from elsewhere? Has there been a discussion to see if he would like to stay? Do we not wish to entertain retaining him because of his wages? I know his contract has expired or soon to be and is relatively free to do whatever he likes and I will wish him well whatever that may be but has the club just given up on keeping him? |
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Reply | RIP Uriah Rennie
at 23:19 8 Jun 2025
My memories of him is that he was a pretty good and consistent referee irrespective of the club or player. |
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Reply | KWP
at 12:16 29 May 2025
Complete agree. He has been excellent for us even through the most torrid time. He hasn't always got it right but he has always given his all and been a complete professional throughout. If he leaves he would leave with me wishing him the very best as he deserves it. I know some will say he gets paid well to be a model professional - true - but there are an awful lot of players who are not model professionals and in that respect he has stood out. |
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Reply | Will Still taking a job in England……
at 22:31 20 May 2025
I tend to agree with you here Cocklebreath.
I do not know anything about Will Still. I knew little about Russell Martin, even less about Juric. McMenemy when he joined us did not come jangling with football medals but for me he was the best thing that ever happened to the club.
Whether Still is appointed or whoever it may be i just hope whoever it is can start to turn this mess around on the pitch. But, we need to be realistic - it is a mess on and off the pitch and it won't be just a case of getting the right manager. There are a whole host of other things that need to be sorted as well. It will be good to get the person in place though from the close of this season at the end of this weekend so they can start the huge amount of work they will have ahead of them to get some sort of team ready for the start of this next season. |
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Reply | Dyche
at 09:50 12 May 2025
I agree.
I think some people's judgements are clouded by the back to the wall approach to Man City, but we were abject against a very poor Leicester team and too many players did not put the effort in.
It always makes me ask the question: do we have a bunch of players who are only willing to put the effort in when they face one of the bigger teams? (not just an issue this season but I saw it under Ralph and managers before and since). If they put in the same effort and commitment against teams around us we would have had more points (I still think we were destined to be relegated). Our fighting or do or die spirit has been largely conspicuous by its absence this season with an appalling attitude by some players and I am certainly not fooled by a spirited display against Man C or earlier in our defeat at Liverpool. |
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Reply | Next Manager Odds
at 13:23 8 May 2025
I hope the owners have by now identified and all but have in place who the next manager is and is just a case of waiting for the last game of the season to end and for that person to take up appointment from day 1 of the end of the season. It is not like we have not known our destiny for ages. I hope they have a good idea of who is to be retained and let go and have a clear plan of the close season - which is not long and are ready to move and we do not stumble through June, July and into August and beyond with alot of if's, but's and maybe's. |
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Thread | I cannot think of a time........
at 17:07 3 May 2025
in my lifetime of supporting my club (I am well into my 60s) where such an abject set of players have represented it. This isn't just about a lack of skill or ability this is a group of players that have consistently throughout this season just not shown up - no bottle, no fight, no desire, no passion, nothing..........absolutely nothing and god help us if they represent us next year against the likes of Pompey etc, because I really don't think they get it or care one iota about the club or the fans or the city.
There is such a rebuilding job needed in the club on and off the pitch it is going take a monumental task to turn it around, if indeed it is not too late to do so. |
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Reply | Soul for sale or already gone?
at 13:37 30 Apr 2025
I want an owner or owners that are competent and know what they are doing, have a vision and a plan and whilst anyone can make an error they don't keep repeating the same errors.
I want a manager that understand the league, can adapt style etc to the situation, game, can create a winning attitude and has a passion for the club and team they are managing.
I want a set of players who really want to play for the club, play from the first to the final whistle of each game, can do the job that is expected of them and has a winning and never say die attitude to every game - accepting of course we can't win every game.
Is all of that too much to ask? |
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Reply | Southampton V Fulham The Verdict
at 14:49 28 Apr 2025
Who should we blame Nick in what has been without question probably the worst season in the clubs history on and off the pitch? It sure as hell isn't the fans fault. If you had to assess this season and even the seasons before this, what reasons would you (and others) say have lead us to be where we are today? |
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Reply | Daniel Farke
at 22:50 23 Apr 2025
Effectively it is what Cortese did. He realised that as good as Adkins was and much loved to get us to the next level it needed a different type of manager. The record of managers promoting clubs to the PL is not good in recent years. |
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Reply | Gary O'Neil
at 23:02 16 Apr 2025
The next managerial appointment and what we do in the close season in terms of transfers (departures and acquisitions) will be a big statement of where this club is going to go. This is an opportunity to end our decline and start turning the ship around. On the otherhand, get this wrong, this time and I fear our decline will continue next season and beyond. SR have no errors left in the bank - they have made too many costly mistakes on and off the pitch when it comes to managerial and player appointments. |
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Reply | Man Utd
at 21:37 13 Apr 2025
They still managed to beat us though! That day at OT when we were so close to a unique result and we won't have had a better opportunity to have beaten them and then blew it..
The PL is very poor generally this year. Which makes us look even more woeful as we have been very poor in a poor league. |
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Reply | Can we sack Juric now please Mr Spors
at 10:16 16 Mar 2025
I have been through every manager since Lawrie McMenemy and we have had some bad ones in all that time and the most noticeable that comes to mind are Branfoot, Pellegrino, Jones, etc but I am struggling to think that they have been or were any worse than this current manager.
Since Juric was appointed he has done and achieved absolutely zero. Yes, it was always going to be a hard task to turn things around and just about everyone accepted relegation almost as soon as the season started, but Juric has been an absolute disaster. He has even managed to destroy what tenuous team spirit there was. None of the players seem to know what they are doing from one game to the next. None of them appear motivated and even those that do make some effort are often hooked off or don't get to play the next game.
Can someone anywhere give one thing that Juric has changed or improved since RM departed. It is embarrassing as a club that we cannot even manage to get to double figures on points let alone exceed Derby County's 11 points and we cannot even achieve it when we play sides that arguably not that great - Wolves yesterday - they were nothing special at all and yet we conspired to lose it.
This has been without doubt the worst season in my lifetime, even worse than the administration period. It is going to take something monumental to change the fortunes of the club around. |
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Reply | We’ll win again
at 19:10 23 Feb 2025
It would be the most entertaining and funniest thing to happen at a home game for a long time to sing this.
We'll win again, don't know where, don't know when
but I know we'll win again some sunny day.
We've got a defence with big holes
some forwards n' no goals
and a midfield that goesssss astray,
the hope that we had
has faded away
but the fans still don't stay away,
We'll win again................. |
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Reply | Brighton Game Matchday Thread
at 17:23 22 Feb 2025
I said it against Burnley, but the players have given up. We should all give up now until next season and just stay away. There is nothing more worth saying. We are not even a shadow of what we were once, we are dead as a club at the moment. |
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Thread | Was it wrong to dispense with RM this season?
at 13:19 18 Feb 2025
This is a question that is now arising in my mind from a football and SFC perspective.
There was no doubt that having got us promoted,(albeit through the back door of the play-offs), RM was right to be given the chance at this level. It had become clear though, that his tactics (or some would say a lack of them) and refusal to adapt was resulting in the same outcome. Now, how much of that was down to him or the quality of the players that he had at his disposal is a moot point.
I have seen that Ramsdale and other players recently indicate that they were bought into his style and regretted his departure. Now some could read that as RM being "soft" with the players and that is why they liked him!
I think it is fair to say most Saints fans were realistic about this season. I doubt many, other than the deluded, thought we would have anything other than a relegation fight on our hands. But, equally, I doubt that many of us foresaw or expected the nightmare shambles of a season that this has become in every quarter of Southampton FC - both on and off the pitch.
The appointment of Juric appears to have only served to make things worse in terms of the team and players. It could be said that he was given a poison chalice (and maybe I am being harsh), but at the minimum you would have hoped he would have brought some unity and cohesion even if the results did not change. What I see is a disorganised shambles, with poor man management and players that now appear to believe in nothing and can't wait to get out of this season and probably out of the club. This is then reflected in the supporters who must wonder what it is exactly they are supporting?
The booing of Smallbone was awful and whilst he was having a poor game so were many of the others and many have been poor now for the best part of a season. But, really I believe that booing was a reflection of the frustration now amongst all fans. I actually wonder why we are bothering to turn up? - there is no joy or entertainment or fun in watching this car crash of a mess.
Kat Liebherr to Gao to SR have an awful lot to answer for. Between them they have managed to bring a once proud club down to the level of embarrassment even more so than the administration years. [Post edited 18 Feb 13:23]
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Reply | Does Juric know what he is doing?
at 23:05 15 Feb 2025
We seem to be the only club grumpy where we select a manager that is worse than the previous one. He is clueless. But, I am sure SR have told him he will be in charge next season. The whole damn club from top to bottom is a mess. God knows why we are continuing to watch them. In all my years, through the many ups and downs I have never ever known a season as bad as this where every sinew of the club both on and off the pitch feels completely and totally rudderless. |
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Thread | Burnley and yesterday
at 22:39 9 Feb 2025
I have supported Saints since being a school boy and attended to games to various degrees for almost 50 years.
This weekend I travelled the 240 miles down south and just got back this evening after seeing family as well.
I can safely say that yesterday's game is probably my final one for this season. There is no way that I am investing any more money into the club with what remains of this season. May be it is just me, but yesterday almost highlighted the abject state of our club, the team, the players as individuals.
Walking to the game I cannot recall an FA Cup game on a Saturday afternoon where there was no atmosphere, no sense of interest or appeal in the city or to the supporters and as it so proved with a crowd of around 15k.
The game itself was fairly mundane though both sides did engineer some chances with little real cutting edge. What was the defining moment though was the Burnley goal - not that they scored a scrappy one to win it - that almost seems to be a given when we play Burnley - but the lack of response and the attitude of our players - you would think with minutes to go and 1-0 down in a cup game they would show some effort, desire and passion - but no, not a scrap of it. With 3 minutes on the clock they were pointlessly passing it around the back with no sense of urgency to move it or thrust the ball forward. The moment Burnley scored they visibly gave up - all of them!
In all my time of supporting and watching Saints I have never seen such an abject group of players to wear our shirt and carry our badge.
I am not convinced by Juric any more than I was of the previous recent incumbents. Nothing has changed that much, if at all, but I am starting to wonder whether these players, this club is becoming unmanageable. There is a whole malaise running through every sinew of the club. I was always proud to be a Saints fan but right now I am embarrassed. These players, these owners, the guardians of our club have turned it into a sham. |
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Reply | Burnley next game
at 22:16 2 Feb 2025
I bought a couple of tickets when they became available for members irrespective of any results. I don't think it will be the most entertaining cup tie with their stingy defence and our generally shot shy attack (though we have started scoring a few more goals recently). |
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