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who's favourite for promotion.
at 21:02 14 May 2025

4-0

Just as well it's a short trip home for the Shaymen faithful
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Youth football
at 20:55 14 May 2025

An imaginative workaround to offset the loss of EFL status on youth football
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Play off tickets on sale tomorrow
at 12:40 14 May 2025

That's exactly right

Tomorrow we'll find out if any lessons are being learned
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who's favourite for promotion.
at 18:06 13 May 2025

Whilst i suggested an away game wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen, massively looking forward to Thursday evening at the COA now

Despite everything, i retain that same degree of optimism as ever (yeah, i know, triumph of optimism over experience...)

If we overcome Southend we'll get an away fixture anyway, as with the usual flow of league fixtures
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Turnstiles on Thursday
at 17:29 12 May 2025

This is brilliant, and an early sign that the CAB initiative will make a real difference, as expected
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Southend (H)
at 11:21 12 May 2025

I can see the headline:

"Bus stop posters used to wipe blood spatters off the pavement"
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Southend (H)
at 11:04 12 May 2025

Not having any of that

Marketing has not been neglected. Look at how the Spennymoor game was well-marketed

On this occasion, and largely due to the repercussions of that performance, marketing (beyond the basics, such as today's email) has been omitted

I trust you understand the difference, and why?

An apology would therefore be in order - not to me, i can cope - but to the owners of the club. Tbf, i'm sure they can cope without one too, but at least it'll indicate you understand why this fixture hasn't been more extensively marketed without being insulting to them
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Southend (H)
at 00:49 12 May 2025

I used the term "suggested" when i should've said "claimed"

Marketing hasn't been "neglected" and i've put forward the reasons why

So you're claiming that the Ogdens, who've built a massive fortune due in no small measure to marketing expertise, have been neglectful. I also said "in some sense" disrespectful but i'll pull no punches this time - it's downright disrespectful

I don't need to repeat the points made about why. The "football fans" you know in the town aren't up to much if they're unaware of next Thursday's fixture, and if they need "enticing" with a bit of marketing they're sporting illiterates

I guess you'll have let them know what's happening? And they're still not coming? That's about all you're really saying

Thursday is a key fixture - yes, and one in which we need to demonstrate the kind of impetus in our game which will put the Spennymoor horror behind us. Until we can start to do that consistently, the stayaways just won't be interested, no matter how much resources are spent on marketing

The superb initiatives being brought to light by the Ogdens don't deserve to be sullied by this thread. It's taken some pushback to put this point in such stark terms, but there we are
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Southend (H)
at 23:22 11 May 2025

It's no good spending money on "preaching to the converted" i.e. those who may have overcome their disillusionment and returned to the COA to see better performances - a few hundred at most. They'll likely be there on Thursday anyway (we've sold c.3k home tickets)

I can only reiterate - the type of marketing campaign this thread suggests has been neglected would achieve little except resources wasted which are better deployed more wisely elsewhere... at this point in time

Hopefully, that will change, at which point marketing is something i'm pretty damn sure the Ogdens won't be neglectful of. Indeed, to suggest they are being neglectful is in some sense disrespectful
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Southend (H)
at 23:00 11 May 2025

That's a different discussion

In terms of marketing the Southend fixture, the board will have hopefully taken a realistic view and along with the exciting initiatives announced around Dale Futures, decided to concentrate their immediate resources on growth from a solid baseline rather than £1000s spent with little prospect of a return on that investment next Thursday
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Southend (H)
at 22:22 11 May 2025

Precisely

Surprised that those advocating an extensive marketing campaign (at this stage) can't see this

In that respect, the repercussions of the Spennymoor debacle linger on, as those who saw it for what it was understood at the time - and i'm not just talking about the result

Only positive performances - in key fixtures - can change that
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War Time Teams
at 19:40 11 May 2025

Don't worry AD, could be the quality of those last two is still good enough and better than many!

Glad at least my dad was right about the guest internationals, although tbf he was in his dotage when reminiscing about it
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CRICKET
at 13:21 11 May 2025

Set 236 to win, 12-0 at lunch and all the time in the world (including tomorrow)
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War Time Teams
at 15:30 10 May 2025

I should've added: my dad spent the war years in the Ministry of Misinformation
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War Time Teams
at 13:39 10 May 2025

According to my dad, clubs would arrange matches on an ad hoc basis depending on who was available (home on leave) and which other teams could put a side out

I don't think there was a competition as such, but the matches were played pretty competitively. Occasionally, a guest player from a much bigger club would turn out to get a game. I think some internationals played for Dale XIs and this increased the gates, the games being well-attended anyway as a diversion from the battles ahead
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10 May 1969
at 09:20 10 May 2025

10 May 2026 will be 57 years...
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CRICKET
at 12:52 9 May 2025

Good start for Lancs at Northampton who're 86-6 approaching lunch

Need a win to kickstart the season
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For generations to come
at 20:28 8 May 2025

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For generations to come
at 19:27 8 May 2025

There's a hole in the buckets
There's a hole in my arse
Potholes less frequent
Sounds like a farce

4000 in Blackburn
According to John
And that was the 60s
Those better days? Non...
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Southend (H)
at 15:35 8 May 2025

I tend to agree, especially the point about it not being a trip-to-Wembley decider

Also, it's only a few shorts weeks since the last extensive marketing effort led to "typical Dale" from less frequent attenders

So, a chance to prove the occasional fan wrong on Thurs 15th and only by doing so will any crowd-building momentum start to happen
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