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This, for me, sums up our last two seasons and I defy any sensible CEO to blame the manager for our playing like this. Watch how many goals go past Paal on our left and get crossed and scored! See how beneficial it is to have a fitness guy in Dubai. I just wish the gynacologists had been where they should have been....In the Boardroom, checking out the Board and the CEO!
As far as i can see this (and yes, it is in my acceptaqnce of my naivety) I maintain that you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear and you should not blame the manager for the inadequacies of the players he has had to field.
Paal has been attrocious on the left and I would love to know the stats for goals conceded following a cutting in past Paal.
Our strikers have been non existent
Injuries have meant our trying to dress up players as having some quality and they haven't.
Our keeper doesn't claim the ball, our set piece plays either dont clear first man or can be over hit.
We cannot seem to go more than 5 games without a foul throw
Our players cannot seem to pass to each other
We are the worst team in the league for the players going to sleep at half time and conceding a goal between 45 and 60 minutes.
So, given a company where the staff are effectively 'temping' and looking forward to when they can get away...how does a manager suddenly get something out of them when we can all see the absolute lack of quality in a number of them!
Nourrey should have at least allowed Marti to get rid of the dross (as best he can), shured up the left flank once Paal has gone and arranged for the keeper coach to show Naardi how to come and claim a ball!
This is more about having Marti being dealt the equivalent of a a poker hand each week with 2-7s and no pairs and expecting him to win the pot!
A sad day at the end of a sad season after a desperate season !
I had this in the early 1970s (in addition to Subbuteo) but, other than my older brother, I couldn't find anyone else who played it. I see from YouTube that they tried to bring it back.
Looking at these Subbuteo players they all seem to just 'stand there' waiting for the ball to come to them, a bit like Saturdays game and how Dozell used to!
Not sure that anyone plays Subbuteo any more but, if they do, how do they play out from the back when the goal keeper has a long bit of plastic on his back?
Sometimes it feels as if our keepers have a long bit of plastic on their backs, which, because the plastic is passed through a slot in the back of the goal, prevents them from moving out and catching the ball!
What Marti said , as per the OP, was " He wants too!" and " I hope so". These did not have to be said and he could simply have smiled at me or said, we'll see. As such I take him at face value and that he would like to but, as per my post, it is likely to be out of his control!
You cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear and you caan take a horse to water but cannot make it drink! The players are just not good enough but that doesn't mean the coaching and intent is wrong! That's like saying that you want your house decorated, car repaired or carpet laid and you give clear instructions, but when it goes wrong it's your fault! NO IT ISN'T - he is work with sub standard craftsmen. The defence today was attrocious, Paal has all season long has been and was today a liability that other teams target. Marti tries to shore this up by having cover but today it was Dembele who did nothing! That is NOT Marti's fault! He can see the issue but hasn't the tools to repair it! Naardi in goal today was attrocious--went down too early for the first, playing out from the back was poor. Chair's corner summed it up! So we desrved to get beaten but it is not the coach's fault but the fault of the team and palyers who let him down. !!
As Marti walked around the pitch today I shook his hand, looked in his eyes and said “Please Stay!” ( which some of you will not agree with!) He replied “I really want to !!”
Just seen someone else asked if he is staying and he replied “ I hope so”
Taking these two responses as honest replies as opposed to ‘Beale talk’ it seems that his lap is a potential goodbye but the decision is not his but dependent upon ‘others’
There are people who can admit to being wrong and back down and there are others who cannot be wrong. Nourry comes across as the latter and it is ‘his way’ or ‘go away!’
Marti knows and admits he has made mistakes whereas I haven’t heard Nourry be that ‘open’ and honest!
Therein lies one of the fundamentals of any working relationship and I have worked for so many bosses who could never be wrong- even when they were!
In each case it led to my leaving as there is no point banging your head on a brick wall!😡
Marti - even with faults- is honest and fair and reasonable. Please stay!!! Nourry is ________________________________ (I changed the colour of the font to white so you cannot see what i said !)
This is what 'should' happen (Marti on (and in ) the right!
IF we can keep our heads when all about us are keeping theirs, If we can pass, knowing that when the ball leaves our foot it will go to a team mate, If we can shoot when there are defenders before us, as well as we shoot when practicing and there aren't, If we can kick out from goal kicks and the ball not go into touch, ot to one of the opposition, If we can throw the ball by passing it over our heads with two hands and not crossing the line, If we can stay away from their defenders knowing that the closer we get, they will fall over and draw a foul, If we can be inventive at free kicks instead of pumping the ball as a lottery into a pile of tall defenders, If we can take any corners we get by ensuring it doesn't go straight into the hands of the goal keeper or hit the head of the first defender and yet, still be aware of the break away, If Colback can avoid a needless red card, and Nardi can claim high balls by just reaching out with his hands, THEN, AND ONLY THEN ........ We may get a draw or sneak a win! (Thanks to Mr Kipling for the idea, he used to make exceedingly good cakes, when we had an exceedingly good team!)
I used to bemoan here how we always seem to let a goal in after 85 mins on the clock. Watching a game on TV a few weeks ago the commentator said that QPR has the worst record for giving away a goal within 15 minues of the break!
So its great that i am no longer sweating or biting my nails (so much) now at the end of the game (but did against Leeds!) but why cannot they focus or concentrate for the first 15 minutes?
Is it the camomile herbal tea or have they only one usable WC and there's a big queue which not all manage to get to the end of because I am noticing that there is a lot of 'manure' spread across the pitch in the second half of recent games!
There is no one seemingly able to command them and keep them focussed !
....but take him off when his legs have gone as we are carrying him and even if we have a non-striker whose legs are fresh that is better than a striker whos legs cannot allow him to do anything!
Time and again I listen to commentators bemoan a flighted cross and subsequent header by their saying 'there was no power or energy in the cross and the forward could not inject enough power to the ball to worry the keeper'
Yet I keep seeing us win attacking free kicks and we all line up (often on the edge of the box) and a cross comes in hanging in the air and dropping onto the mass like a balloon. Why? what is the point?
We have wingers, we have two people standing over the ball and one defender out there. We have the advantage of 2 to 1 and skill and speed for an overlap, short pass and cross yet all we do is float a ball in with no power.
Have the players and or coaches got absolutely no idea?, no innovation?, do they not watch what other teams do (to US and to other teams)? Twice we have played the short, overlap freekick pass on the wing, this season and twice we have scored! Howe may goals have we scored from flighted and powerless free kicks to the edge of the box?
Please can we try something else as to keep doing something that doesn't work is madness (not too dissimilar to my posting here about things that don't change i supoose!)