| Forum Reply | The folly of selecting Grimes at 09:31 23 Dec 2024
Someone mentioned that the more times you do the same thing the percentage of times you get it wrong increases but then you have to add the fact that opposition teams know what you are going to do then they can anticipate it so it increases the percentage of times you get in wrong.This is affecting not just Vigouroux's kick out but our general play and if you do it in your own defensive third of the pitch them if the opposition decides to press you that percentage also increases again making getting it wrong almost a certainty. It comes to a point as a fan that you know the opposition is going to score against us it is totally demoralising imagine what it is doing to the players and manager. So how about playing the ball into areas we know we can compete and not into areas that we know we will be over run. We have shown against Leeds and Sunderland we can score goals but in trying to play that way we also gave away a bucket load expecting our main elements of our attack to be our fullbacks, it is crazy, our main elements of attack should be our forwards and if you are slow in getting it to them the defences can get organised and shut us down and boy oh boy did Hull do that! How many times did did we have the chance to get the ball forward quickly but didn't, preferring to play it backwards inviting pressure that eventually told. The very percentages we talk about for making mistakes in defence equally apply to the opposition and yet we don't play in a way that reduces our percentage of mistakes and increases the opposition's.The playing of the ball in tight situations is all about the best way of getting out of it not further into it. How often do we see Vigouroux or Grimes take the safe option but it usually means the safe options for the opposition. Every ball played has an element of risk but let us please let the risk be on the opposition more than us. A simple throw out to a fullback who has tracked back with a forward chasing a lost cause means the fullback can peal away to receive an easy throw out in front of him to run onto, it doesn't happen! The playing the long ball up to our fullbacks who is tight on our winger is nonesense as it means that one opposition fullback if competent enough can take out of play both our fullback and winger it also means we are exposed on the flanks. The quick ball over the top or in the channels should be one of our first weapons of choice not our last. [Post edited 23 Dec 9:52]
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| Forum Reply | Hull City v Swansea City : Match day thread at 12:08 22 Dec 2024
There was a reason that Cooper eventually stopped playing two up top in a 4-4-2 and went to a 4-5-1 playing three in the middle to stop opposition's progression while having Bidewell and Roberts out wide to protect the full backs, the complaint then we were too defensive so in the play off final he opted for Lowe. Why did Cooper have to play three in the middle because we were weak in the middle with just the two defensive midfielders. Martin struggled even when playing four in the middle but two of those were attacking midfielders for example Ntcham and Paterson which did not help out in the defensive element of the game leaving two defensive midfielders struggling to preform their duties as the wing backs pressed forward. We had and have what for me were and are young players in Downes and Franco that each helped out in that department but both cannot do the job without a better player alongside them if you are going to two in the middle, the most critised player has been playing a lot better this season but yesterday was noticeably poor when put under pressure. He wasn't the only one but has the problem since relegation been we are defensively weak playing two in the middle with the players we have available, is that why Key pushes into the middle and we looked more solid defensively with Ollie Cooper as a third midfielder but that affected our attacking play. With Cardiff change in formation Cooper pressed on and the rest of the midfield didn't so we ended again defensively weak with the two holding midfielders. Against Wycombe in the cup it was over run. |
| Forum Reply | Hull City v Swansea City : Match day thread at 10:33 22 Dec 2024
The high press was awful yesterday it left big gaps in the middle because the midfield duo and the backs dropped of, which after the defeats against Leeds and Sunderland we wanted to a certain degree to try and get defensively strong but you still have to get you challenges in instead of making it so easy to play against, it was like the disastrous preformance against Wycombe all over again, the second half against Cardiff their midfield dropped which with our midfield not pushing on just left so much room for their runners. Bad marking all day long chasing shadows. |
| Forum Reply | The folly of selecting Grimes at 10:19 22 Dec 2024
The width is there with the wingers, by having the fullbacks giving width deeper means the midfield is available as is the flanks for quick balls to the deep full back from the keeper or switch of play, less chance of being picked off both wide and trying to play down the middle, even more helpful the quick balls to the wingers to pull defenses about either to feet or beyond the winger allowing them to come onto the ball instead of trying to turn when closely marked by the defenders, slow, pedestrian ,predictable yesterday. |
| Forum Reply | Hull City v Swansea City : Match day thread at 00:46 22 Dec 2024
As with others totally disappointed with the performance, don't usually post one off flippant comments during a game but that was poor, expected us to come back at them, even to score and even hoped we would go on to take the game but deep down knew we would try and play the clever game and get caught out as we ceded pitch position and got picked off. We have played Leeds and Sunderland and shown when we need to we can score goals same as against Hull but we just don't seem to be able to back our attacking needs up without giving stupid goals away, even expected Fulton to be called back into the team to shore up the defence in the midfield but the marking was shocking Hull players in our 1/3 of the pitch stroking the ball around like a good football team with no challenges to upset their Rythym until Grimes needs to give a goal scoring chance of a free kick that Hull did very little with. Hoped after the encouraging preformance previously the issues in the teams defensive set up would be resolved but totally dejected by that preformance. |
| Forum Reply | Hull City v Swansea City : Match day thread at 13:49 21 Dec 2024
Get the ball forward enabling players to run onto the ball in the midfield. Add to that here is no pressure on the ball in the midfield at all. [Post edited 21 Dec 13:50]
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| Forum Reply | Hull City v Swansea City : Match day thread at 13:20 21 Dec 2024
He wouldn't be given the ball. How many touches does Key need before he plays the simple ball down the wing, no wonder we have been complaining about our wing play. [Post edited 21 Dec 13:24]
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| Forum Reply | Hull City v Swansea City : Match day thread at 13:14 21 Dec 2024
Having to chase the game have to get the ball forward showing up Hull's issues, will we go back to possession football without forward momentum again? [Post edited 21 Dec 13:18]
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| Forum Reply | Hull City v Swansea City : Match day thread at 13:09 21 Dec 2024
For the goal we were out numbered on the edge of the box purer down to bad marking giving the player on the ball time to pick his pass into the box. [Post edited 21 Dec 13:10]
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| Forum Reply | Hull City v Swansea City : Match day thread at 13:00 21 Dec 2024
The ball over the top is a must as Hull are pressing high and leaving gaps in behind. No point in having possession if you don't convert into forward momentum. |
| Forum Reply | Possession Based football. at 12:58 20 Dec 2024
As you say it was a small window with Duff but he was nowhere near having a settled team, as for Cooper he had the same issues of getting the balance right, he had a havsettled side missing one or two players and good enough to get into the playoffs twice,. Martin ditch that defensive set up but did he every get a settled side, forever swapping players around in back line. Williams seems to have a settle starting eleven at least with players able to play at a standard but missing a number of players to push for a playoff place this year, he is not far off but maybe he needs to look at what is and what has unsettled that balance between attack and defence since relegation. |
| Forum Reply | Possession Based football. at 11:34 20 Dec 2024
Duff's football did show some promise with some good results with Platino, Paterson and Grimes in the middle until it fell apart home against Leicester where we tried a defending game with that very weak defensive set up in the middle, seems the baby then got thrown out with the bath water. Downhill for him after that. So we have seen glimpses of better games under Duff, not too many, and also under Martin and Williams but ultimately without a strong defensive setup especially in the middle of the park we are suffer once teams attack us, we have compromised our defensive in the search for goals, I am hoping that William's has now learnt enough about his team to rectify the problems.It won't be possible in every game but I want to see it in the majority of games, we are picking up points away but dropping them at home. |
| Forum Reply | Williams out at 09:56 20 Dec 2024
With the ageing of the likes of Allen and Naughton, state of Darling's and Cabango's contracts, Christie short term contract and age, his unwillingness to use others at his disposal the like of Tjoe-A-On on the bench and not used. Cooper used Bidewell and Manning together to shore up the defence to make us better protected on the flanks and given our left sided imbalance, can't see all those issues being resolved in the January window but some may be but William's will just have to get the best out of the players at his disposal. |
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