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Reply | Cifuentes on gardening leave
at 14:26 30 Apr 2025
It all comes down to the contract. It's perfectly lawful to terminate in accordance with the terms of the contract. If the Club is relying on an express term (we do not know, for example, if there is a right to terminate by notice), then it doesn't matter that the reason they have terminated is flawed. MC can't argue in that case that there is a breach of the term implied into all employment contracts that neither party shall do anything without lawful and reasonable cause to undermine the relationship of trust and confidence, because its an implied term. Implied terms do not trump express terms. So the reason they have pulled the pin is not important. |
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Reply | Cifuentes on gardening leave
at 13:38 30 Apr 2025
On garden leave - in other words, paying him the full salary and benefits he would accrue under his contract until it comes to an end. And if he doesn't get another job during his garden leave, having to pay another coach as well. Each £ paid to MC during this period, as well as to the other coach, comes straight out of the P&S budget and is a £ less for spending on player recruitment. |
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Reply | Cifuentes on gardening leave
at 12:57 30 Apr 2025
For what it’s worth, a few comments on the situation.
MC is contracted to QPR through to the end of his notice period or the remainder of the fixed term of his contract (we don't know if there is a notice period; it could just be a fixed term employment contract (very common for managers), and, if the latter, we do not know what the duration of the fixed term is).
We do not know if MC gave notice (if there is a notice clause) or indicated he wanted to leave, or whether the Club told MC he was being relieved of duties/ placed on garden leave. What we can say with some certainty is that there must be a garden leave clause as it would be a breach of contract by QPR simply to remove his duties (this has long been clarified by the Court of Appeal). The underpinning of garden leave is a right for the employer to have exclusivity of service whether or not the employer chooses to make use of the same.
The speculation about no compensation being payable is just that. The position with release fee compensation from another club is purely contractual. Nobody but the parties (and their agents) to MC's employment contract will know what the position is and if/when it might be payable (payment would be from MC, but a new employer would underwrite the cost).
That said, if another club in the Champ wants to employ MC before the end of his notice period/fixed term, then, irrespective of what MC’s employment contract provides, they will have to negotiate with QPR and pay something. If they don't, and they try and employ MC, inevitably, they will be inducing a breach of a contract. An injunction would be a possible remedy if it is a Champ club, damages more likely in other leagues (there would be no need to injunct outside the Champ because clubs in other leagues would be unlikely to be competitive with QPR during the remainder of MC’s employment with QPR).
As regards clubs outside the Champ, what would be the measure of damages? That is difficult to assess - there would arguably be no direct financial loss to QPR because MC is not currently doing anything. Further, there would need to be an offset against the saving made in relation to his salary. So, outside the Champ, damages could be nominal.
However, with clubs in the same league, it is a trodden path – Palace did the same thing with Bruce. |
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Reply | Cifuentes on gardening leave
at 22:19 29 Apr 2025
Oh dear. We are back to circling the drain. What sane individual would want to come here and answer to data boy or to take on the squad he has so expertly assembled? The only thing keeping us from falling down the plug hole has gone. Lump on for relegation next season. What a sh!tshow. |
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Reply | Sky Sports Breaking News
at 16:59 29 Apr 2025
They are printing money. Have you seen the most recent accounts? Whilst there is a £2m loss, turnover is up 155% from TV (Welcome to Wrexham) and sponsorship. No PSR issues there. |
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Reply | Sky Sports Breaking News
at 15:07 29 Apr 2025
The Wrexham project is incredibly well run. I have been working with someone who has been involved in it at a very senior level. They are not mucking about with some tinpot two person "sports consultancy". They apparently had 16 fulltime New York based sports consultants working on the project last year. They have a new ground planned (which will go through on the nod), and the Premier League is the target.
Reynolds and McElhenney also have a tremendous amount of personal integrity. There has been, and there is going to be, a lot of people who fall by the wayside because they are not good enough to step up, and they look after them. They are stepchanging as they go, replacing the Exec team and the players with people that can do the job.
We are miles away from that. In fact, we are light years away. [Post edited 29 Apr 15:09]
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Reply | Sky Sports Breaking News
at 06:27 29 Apr 2025
I think it is quite remarkable that we have created, so far, 13 pages of pure speculation. |
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Reply | Sky Sports Breaking News
at 12:27 28 Apr 2025
"It is just speculation that Marti thinks Nourry is a "c nut" as you put it."
Two points there. First, I was limited, quite rightly, by the site's profanity checker in what I wrote.
Second, I didn't say that that was what Marti thought. I had moved to a generalisation about what typically happens with people in that sort of situation. Like most (probably all) people on the site, I have no knowledge of Marti's thoughts on the matter. |
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Reply | Sky Sports Breaking News
at 08:02 28 Apr 2025
"It gives me some hope that either the Board will step in to strongly encourage Nourry to work better with Marti and addresse the issues he has raised, or if he doesn't move Nourry out / encourage him to find himself another job."
It doesn’t work like that though. The Board have nailed their colours on Nourry, backing him to the hilt in terms of giving him both CEO and DOF roles. And there is no way practically that you can just work better with someone. It's trust and confidence. And in any other walk of life, if you work with soneone you think is a c nut and who is also your boss, you end up leaving.
It's the collateral damage that will come out of this that will be a big problem. Chair may well go. Marti clearly rates him. I think we have seen what happens to us creatively when he doesn’t play - check out the start of the season. |
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Reply | Britain's most offensive swearwords
at 15:59 25 Apr 2025
That is possibly the best graph ever.
The whole YouGov research has prompted some great banter this afternoon on a particular WhatsApp group of which I am a member. |
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Reply | Edwards just makes it look Eze
at 06:05 15 Apr 2025
And give it to our recruitment team and Director of Football?
I spent a few hours on Sunday cycling with a guy who is involved at a pretty senior level at a Premier League club. We were discussing our collection of midgets. He called them "technical players" and laughed. He said we would probably have a pretty good five a side team though. |
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Thread | Eze
at 15:29 23 Feb 2025
A client took me to Fulham v Palace yesterday. Eze was the stand out player on the pitch. Unplayable. So much time on the ball.
The Riverside stand is something else, with the terrace for a drink after the game. And they drop the price after the game. |
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Reply | Warne gone at Derby
at 06:10 8 Feb 2025
Warne is an interesting one. He is the League One equivalent of Scott Parker - he sets up in a particular way (in Warne's case, a team of giant industrial cloggers), gets promoted every time (think Rotherham with him as opposed to now) and then gets dismissed because it doesn't work higher up. Warne will go back to League 1 and repeat.
Derby are stuck in a doom loop. David Clowes has realised how much it costs to own a club and likes it as much as Mel Morris - he wants to be substantially out. They are not going to become world beaters with that League 1 squad overnight. Much as they would hate it because they think they are bigger than him, Neil Harris is perfect for Derby. |
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Reply | Dunne off?
at 10:58 3 Feb 2025
This.
It's a short career. He has to make his money. Good luck to him. |
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