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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 15:33 9 Apr 2025
Read the thread, I have said throughout that schisms have formed with all sides setting about to ensure they control the narrative 👍
That's why I have said 'I think' and 'I wouldn't surprised'. Etc.
The only time I have stated something as fact was during the phase of the debate where Richard Thompson's reign was discussed 👍 |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 14:59 9 Apr 2025
You're not, 'lads'...
Happy for you all to take everything I say at face value or with a pinch of salt 👍
Where I'm speculating I say.
When I offer an opinion I say.
Where I saying something is fact I say. |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 14:48 9 Apr 2025
I said I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, not that I think it will.
A way around it would be restructuring.
But pure speculation.
If people think some are disappointed with Marti, why can't they envision the same being disappointed with Nourry but having hands tied? |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 14:46 9 Apr 2025
I'm neither of those people.
Why don't you do some research about media interviews in 2025 and get back to me?
You're a bit behind the times mate 👍 |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 14:44 9 Apr 2025
If they don't get promoted it wouldn't surprise me if Nathan Jones was poached from Charlton. |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 14:40 9 Apr 2025
Even Mrs Cifuentes says that an advisor on standby is par des normes now...
It's 2025.
And NDAs? That's common practice now too.
Have you been retired long? |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 10:43 9 Apr 2025
I like the soap opera 🤫
It is my opinion that Marti is out of his depth, you'll have to ask others if they think so.
What I would say is that it is a clusterf**k and he's not the main issue but for him to be successful here will require money we haven't got and time we can't afford.
Everyone thinks he'll be a great manager - me included- but there's no point pretending that we can offer him what he needs to become one unless he's going to end up at a club in a similar car crash situation.
I think Marti is an honourable man and might walk. I get the impression that he acknowledges this isn't what he signed up for and he's not the right man on this occasion. |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 10:03 9 Apr 2025
We have a situation where a significant part of our set up is out of their depth and the longer that goes on for we are in big trouble.
The ideal solution would be that anyone who has proven the theory that you always get promoted to a position of incompetency leaves but that won't be straight forward.
My solution would be to shake hands with Marti in June, thank him for what he has done and we wish him well for the future but it's simply the wrong role at the wrong time of his career. He's a lovely man but he's a few seasons away from being experienced enough in English football to manage us through some very unique circumstances.
If the club wasn't in the financial mess we are it would be different but this is, sadly, all a bit beyond him at the moment.
With Nourry it's a bit more difficult as he has the right ears listening to him and the model he proposes is what the Powers to be subscribe to.
He should also go but it wouldn't surprise me if someone is brought in over his head and he stays at the club for 3-5 years developing his experience before moving on.
Neither of their roles are suitable to 'learning on the job' and it is imperative that we bring in relevant experience . |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 21:19 8 Apr 2025
I've seen matches in Sweden and I know how passionate they are: a friend of a friend played for AIK.
What is ludicrous, in my opinion, is any comparison of the pressures of managing in Sweden and in the Championship in England, the latter with a broke team as well.
They're not comparable and no one would seriously believe they are.
We've both obviously got a line to people who are at a minimum at the fringes of the ongoing situation and as a consequence we shouldn't be niave to pretend that both sides - 3 if you take other issues seriously- aren't tailoring their versions of truth to ensure their legacies aren't in tatters when the inevitable happens... [Post edited 8 Apr 21:26]
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 20:15 8 Apr 2025
No, you're right.
Managing Hammarby in the Swedish League with a TV deal with Sweden, Norway and Denmark and prize money of a few million and a packet of fruit pastilles is far harder than managing QPR in one of the toughest leagues in the World with a TV deal across the globe and the potential to earn a significant amount if millions.
Throw in the fact that QPR are significantly in debt and he has that burden resting on his shoulders I'm amazed he's not singing Zipide Doo Dah every day 👍
Sorry to doubt you Mrs Cifuentes 😢 |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 20:00 8 Apr 2025
Are you really suggesting that Hammarny are a bigger club than QPR?
The pressures of managing both can't seriously be compared...
Also, Lincoln Red Imps play in Europe every season but managing them wouldn't prepare you for the scrutiny that comes with managing an English Championship team...
Chalk and cheese mate. |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 19:54 8 Apr 2025
Nourry had a lot of power before January 2024.
Marti may find podcasts and public engagement at a club of our size overwhelming. He wouldn't the first manager to take on more than he can handle at a particular stage of his career. |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 19:45 8 Apr 2025
Nourry was involved with the club significantly before Marti was manager and had the right ears listening to him as soon as he arrived at the club.
January 2024 was an official passing of the baton but what he said carried weight way before that date.
Maybe Marti didn't enjoy the Podcast experience and/or the prospect of fan engagement at a club with a fanbase significantly larger than anywhere else he has managed at before? Maybe he finds the whole thing overwhelming?
Which kind of ties in with what I said in the post Cardiff thread, maybe Marti is feeling out of his depth at a club as big as ours? [Post edited 8 Apr 19:48]
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 19:22 8 Apr 2025
Maybe a new manager, whenever we get one, might be more vocal about the need to engage directly with fan groups and force the issue.
I can't see things changing too much until then but you never know. [Post edited 8 Apr 19:23]
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 18:48 8 Apr 2025
So, just for clarity, you're referring to you asking the club for an interview with Marti rather than, as I asked, if someone has actually asked Marti if he likes public engagement?
Club putting restrictions in place isn't the same as Marti not liking/wanting public engagements and both could be in place...
I personally think you'll be granted an interview with the QPR manager at the back of July but not without other publications and websites being present and with a strict provide questions in advance. |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 18:36 8 Apr 2025
And there's no chance of him or whoever you asked giving the answer they wanted you to hear knowing it would be passed on to fans?
Trust no one at the moment... |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 18:29 8 Apr 2025
It's not 1994 anymore but 2025.
You're not going to get any manager allowed to speak without a PR advisor close at hand nowadays. The fact that previous managers - under completely different reigns - didn't is irrelevant though may suggest how out of touch they were.
You'd be niave to not realise that there are significant issues at the club but that has nothing to do with potentially being misinterpreted. A misinterpreted comment may be about a player's injury, transfer targets or even about off field community activities.
No business in 2025 is going to.allow reputational damage occur through poor interviews carried out by senior management without PR.
Also, the club have a right only to speak to established news outlets. As disappointed as those affected by that are that's the rules now. Future regimes may change that but it is unlikely.
Also, nobody is actually asking if Marti prefers no engagement. That's the question to ask...
It's 2025, things are done differently now 👍 [Post edited 8 Apr 18:33]
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 17:39 8 Apr 2025
My wife has worked with Premier League clubs including Manchester United.
The clubs' have advisors on standby any time any employee is giving an interview to the extent that when she was working on a marketing campaign for the U21 sides they have 2 on site....
There's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes at LR but if you think that's the only thing that the PR team will be worried about being misinterpreted you're, respectfully, very niave.
Klopp and Ferguson (post 95) never gave an interview out of earshot from a PR advisor. |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 17:17 8 Apr 2025
Hibs/St Mirren was back end of 80s.
We went back to Easter Road in 1995. The same summer of Plymouth away and Chippies goal at Millwall in a very passionate 'friendly'. 👍 |
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Reply | We need a Director of Football
at 17:13 8 Apr 2025
Because there's things that could be misinterpreted...
He's not going to spill any beans publicly- he puts his own truth out via other methods - but it's bad practice to be giving interviews in 2025 without an advisor. |
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