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Stoke City v Queens Park Rangers- match thread hi
at 16:56 29 Mar 2025

They were all poor. But that was an all timer from Fox. One of the worst CB performances I can remember since…his last all timer in wales.
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Stoke City v Queens Park Rangers- match thread hi
at 15:47 29 Mar 2025

Relegation battle.
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Trent
at 19:50 26 Mar 2025

Not on social media anymore, but my brother has sent me some of the blue tick wa**** brigades posts - you’d think he’s killed someone. Delusional is unfair on the deluded
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Points,required for safety
at 19:42 26 Mar 2025

Without wanting to be all data, stats, and dickheady about it - look at the top 4 in that season and compare it to now. Points distribution is more relevant to these conversations than points totals.
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This season......your thoughts.
at 07:19 25 Mar 2025

1 step forwards 2 steps back.

And injuries. All the injuries (not an excuse, self inflicted through bat shyt Dubai based working).
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"By far the most challenging season of my career!”
at 14:05 18 Mar 2025

Managers rarely resign. They may be approached for (/source) another job and leave, sure, but that’s not the same thing as handing in your resignation to get out. We see it all the time, particularly in bottom of prem - horrible, hopeless situations like Southampton this season you don’t quit. You walk away from a massive pay packet by doing so.

I can think of elite resignations (Klopp, Pep at Barca etc) but can anyone name the last championship level manager to resign? Unless you define walking away as doing an Honest Mick, in which case fine. But that does not sound like “walking” in the way you mean
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Out of Contract
at 11:03 18 Mar 2025

Cook/Frey is all about the amount of money they want. In principle I agree keeping them around is preferable (we have seen very clearly that you don’t get that far in this league with a team of European midgets). But, and it’s a big but, Frey’s fitness and availability is poor and I don’t think anyone who has been down there since New Year can tell me Cook’s legs aren’t going going gone.

I would only keep them on pretty heftily reduced wedge, and failing that go out and get a few 28-31 year old experienced pros on frees for cheaper who can play the old head role (assuming we’re not looking for 40 game a season starters here).

Jimmy aside not fussed about the rest. Think Saito will be a very good player one day but unsure if it will be on these shores.
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"By far the most challenging season of my career!”
at 20:46 16 Mar 2025

Christ alive lads, he could literally be referring to anything. It’s almost like we’re lower mid table heading towards the end of the season and need something to panic about.

Can we just win a couple games to get over the line first and do the whole ITK/MC leaving/CN is a dictator threads in May
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Leeds Reflection
at 14:23 16 Mar 2025

He looks comfortably the best option without Field/Varane fit to play CDM, which says a hell of a lot about his ability - to slot in at centre mid against the best team in the league without really looking out of place. If only we could keep him. Really hoping Rohl’s Saints go and buy some German gegenpress nutters and they have no need for him come Jan’26.

Met Varane outside the paddocks yesterday. Said he was feeling good and gave the impression it isn’t anything too serious. Nice lad.
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The Boro Match thread.
at 09:31 12 Mar 2025

Stoke Cardiff Oxford in a row (2 away) after international break. Don’t start to pick up some points in that run and it will get very hairy very quickly.

We’ve tried to open up and it’s gone horribly wrong again. We don’t have the players for it, especially in deep areas. I don’t know how many more times I can watch Cook pass a ball at snails pace to Dunne, who then has no option on and chips it into the channel for their LCB to collect.

This squad needs so much work to play that way, and it’s a pointless task trying to do it with players who simply aren’t good enough on the ball.
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The Boro Match thread.
at 21:40 11 Mar 2025

This team isn’t getting many more points. Let’s hope last seasons survival points total isn’t replicated.
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The Boro Match thread.
at 20:39 11 Mar 2025

Very weak, very easily bullied. Wonder if all the Twitter tacticos can see why Field has to be in this team, this is what it looks like without someone like him/Varane.
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Rest of the Championship thread
at 08:08 5 Mar 2025

It’s felt for a while now the current bottom 3 are gone. Don’t want to count any chickens just yet, but I think had last years Huddersfield been around this year (45 from 46) they’d stay up. 3 truly awful teams in an especially crap league this season.
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at 17:31 26 Feb 2025

Since the start of the 2023/2024 season they’ve played 72 games and accumulated 54 points at 0.75ppg. If they weren’t such a horrible club I’d almost feel sorry for them.
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at 14:12 26 Feb 2025

Yeah I think it’s going to be a much more normal points total to be safe this year. Reckon about where we are will be enough. Get the sentiment for stoke being lucky to stay up, but do you really see the current bottom 3 getting anymore than 40ish points?

Plymouth maybe, but Luton and Derby are getting worse not better - they need a Rohl/Marti style surge and the evidence does not suggest that’s gonna happen based on what we’ve seen so far.

For context, we had 35 points after 34 games last year, and SW had 32. The improvement was there for all to see.

Luton/Derby/Plymouth, 28/29/30.

Bleak.
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Meanwhile at Man Utd
at 11:10 25 Feb 2025

Without wanting to stray into any modern shouting match about politics on the internet, just because someone is very good at running one business does not mean they are therefore good at running all businesses, football clubs, or government agencies (cough cough).

Find it amusing that people are able to see this easily with Ratcliffe and not with others. What % of football club owners run their club in a sustainable, successful way? 10%? Less? They’re egotistical billionaires, exploiting the common man is basically their MO
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QPR finances released
at 16:53 24 Feb 2025

Surprised at the surprise on here to the cost of some of the outlays this summer.

A) There are quite a lot of sources at the time saying almost bang on what the figures were (based on the analysis in this thread).
B) Signing u25s is always a more expensive strategy in terms of fees because you’re buying based on potential. For argument sake let’s say Varane and Colback are the same level; Varane is obviously going to cost you far more than colback in transfer fees because you’re paying for the potential upside (a ~10-15£m move to the Prem).
C) Most compellingly, it’s QPR. We always sign players and the expensive ones never turn out to be the best.
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The Morgan - Varane - Field midfield
at 15:50 24 Feb 2025

And while I think we all (mostly) love Koki/Illy and the merry gang of midgets they lead, they’re not exactly 2010/11 Adel.

I think it is quite clear, as other have said, that Marti’s trying to get closer to his ideal approach, using this stretch to try things when we’re neither in a troubled position nor would there be any pressure from above for falling away from an unlikely play off hunt.

Before anyone jumps on my back about ambition, pride yadda yadda. Managers don’t get these situations very often, where they can genuinely experiment in real competitive football and learn more about their team tactically.

I know we think we know it doesn’t work, but the manager obviously has an idea he wants to try and i understand why hes doing it now, especially after our start when it went so wrong. Call me cynical but finishing 11th or 15th is a bit irrelevant (and 15th would be an improvement regardless!

I back mixing things up now while we have the space to (watch the 3 return against SU now)
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Rest of the Championship thread
at 15:24 23 Feb 2025

My 2 cents would be that they stopped doing all the things that got them to the premier league. Look at the signings they made 2021-2024 and then look at the players they bought last summer with the prem money.

As we well know, the poisoned chalice of prem recruitment can hurt you for years if you get it wrong.
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at 14:00 23 Feb 2025

Couldn’t get my head around a club in receipt of parachute payments hiring a relatively untried manager who has had a good half of a season in league 1. Looked a bad decision at the time and clearly isn’t working. They’re gone.

Them and Edwards a good reminder that sometimes problems are far deeper/essential than a single manager.
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