| Welsh or British on 18:12 - Mar 7 with 936 views | yescomeon |
| Welsh or British on 19:12 - Mar 6 by Kilkennyjack |
People who live, work, and contribute to Wales are Welsh. Wales is our (old) nation, but Britain is not a nation - it is a relatively recent political construct. Although I much prefer Cymru. Younger people are much more positive about being welsh than the war generation. That's my view anyhow. |
Agree mate.
"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it." - Max Planck |  |
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| Welsh or British on 18:28 - Mar 7 with 916 views | tomdickharry |
Citizen of the United Kingdom therefore British. |  | | |
| Welsh or British on 18:54 - Mar 7 with 907 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Welsh or British on 18:28 - Mar 7 by tomdickharry |
Citizen of the United Kingdom therefore British. |
One doesn't necessarily follow the other. People from Northern Ireland are citizens of the UK. But they're not British. |  |
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| Welsh or British on 19:07 - Mar 7 with 901 views | BravoJack |
I find the whole 'proud to be welsh' thing, cringeworthy... and it only turns up on my FB timeline when there is international egg on the telebox. Funnily enough it also coincides with droves of ugly birds in egg jerseys knowing nothing about the sport making there way to wind st and praying the blokes are pissed enough to give them a stuffing. |  | | |
| Welsh or British on 19:47 - Mar 7 with 882 views | ItchySphincter |
| Welsh or British on 19:07 - Mar 7 by BravoJack |
I find the whole 'proud to be welsh' thing, cringeworthy... and it only turns up on my FB timeline when there is international egg on the telebox. Funnily enough it also coincides with droves of ugly birds in egg jerseys knowing nothing about the sport making there way to wind st and praying the blokes are pissed enough to give them a stuffing. |
Sounds good. Sunday is it? |  |
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| Welsh or British on 19:48 - Mar 7 with 881 views | Lohengrin |
| Welsh or British on 18:54 - Mar 7 by exiledclaseboy |
One doesn't necessarily follow the other. People from Northern Ireland are citizens of the UK. But they're not British. |
Ha! Ha! Try trotting that one out in any pub on The Shankill or Sandy Row of a weekend.   |  |
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| Welsh or British on 19:50 - Mar 7 with 877 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Welsh or British on 19:48 - Mar 7 by Lohengrin |
Ha! Ha! Try trotting that one out in any pub on The Shankill or Sandy Row of a weekend. |
Yeah well I'm not dull.  You know what I mean anyway. The island of Ireland, whatever its political make up, isn't part of Britain. | |
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| Welsh or British on 19:50 - Mar 7 with 874 views | Lohengrin |
| Welsh or British on 19:12 - Mar 6 by Kilkennyjack |
People who live, work, and contribute to Wales are Welsh. Wales is our (old) nation, but Britain is not a nation - it is a relatively recent political construct. Although I much prefer Cymru. Younger people are much more positive about being welsh than the war generation. That's my view anyhow. |
By that all encompassing formula Vincent Tan is a Welshman. Blood makes us who we are not postcode. | |
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| Welsh or British on 19:54 - Mar 7 with 868 views | Lohengrin |
| Welsh or British on 19:50 - Mar 7 by exiledclaseboy |
Yeah well I'm not dull. You know what I mean anyway. The island of Ireland, whatever its political make up, isn't part of Britain. |
We're all of us sons and daughters of the British Isles no matter who collects our taxes. Whether you're from Killay, Kenilworth, Kilkenny or Kirkcaldy we're the same people. | |
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| Welsh or British on 19:58 - Mar 7 with 864 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Welsh or British on 19:54 - Mar 7 by Lohengrin |
We're all of us sons and daughters of the British Isles no matter who collects our taxes. Whether you're from Killay, Kenilworth, Kilkenny or Kirkcaldy we're the same people. |
Almost in a "We are the People" kind of way.
I feel dirty just typing that. | |
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| Welsh or British on 19:59 - Mar 7 with 862 views | Lohengrin |
| Welsh or British on 19:58 - Mar 7 by exiledclaseboy |
Almost in a "We are the People" kind of way.
I feel dirty just typing that. |
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| Welsh or British on 22:06 - Mar 7 with 835 views | BravoJack |
| Welsh or British on 19:47 - Mar 7 by ItchySphincter |
Sounds good. Sunday is it? |
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| Welsh or British on 22:19 - Mar 7 with 820 views | dgt73 |
| Welsh or British on 19:50 - Mar 7 by exiledclaseboy |
Yeah well I'm not dull. You know what I mean anyway. The island of Ireland, whatever its political make up, isn't part of Britain. |
What a perverted way of thinking but that's the sort of sh*t you expect from the looney left, next you will be saying the people who live in alaska aren't American. |  |
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| Welsh or British on 22:25 - Mar 7 with 809 views | dgt73 |
| Welsh or British on 07:55 - Mar 7 by epaul |
Utter bollox, being proud of being welsh has nothing to do where you live, all about freedom of movement which we have. I moved because it gave me the opportunity to give my children the best possible upbringing that I could at the time |
Sometimes its just better to say nothing, than open your month and sound a fool as you have. | |
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| Welsh or British on 04:02 - Mar 8 with 787 views | Catullus |
| Welsh or British on 18:12 - Mar 7 by yescomeon |
Agree mate.
"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it." - Max Planck |
And you can extend that back far enough to a time when there was no Wales, no England, UK or Europe either.
All countries and borders are relatively new constructs!
Really speaking, we are all Earthicans!!! Now where is Leela? | |
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| Welsh or British on 09:30 - Mar 8 with 758 views | epaul |
| Welsh or British on 22:25 - Mar 7 by dgt73 |
Sometimes its just better to say nothing, than open your month and sound a fool as you have. |
Get your spelling right or you'll look a bigger fool |  |
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The b*stards are coming back though |
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| Welsh or British on 14:24 - Mar 8 with 735 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Welsh or British on 22:19 - Mar 7 by dgt73 |
What a perverted way of thinking but that's the sort of sh*t you expect from the looney left, next you will be saying the people who live in alaska aren't American. |
I don't know about perverted my old sparring partner but it's a simple geographical and political fact that Northern Ireland is not part of Britain. | |
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| Welsh or British on 14:36 - Mar 8 with 726 views | Dr_Winston |
| Welsh or British on 14:24 - Mar 8 by exiledclaseboy |
I don't know about perverted my old sparring partner but it's a simple geographical and political fact that Northern Ireland is not part of Britain. |
Correct.
It is not part of Great Britain. It is part of the British Isles. |  |
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| Welsh or British on 14:42 - Mar 8 with 716 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Welsh or British on 14:36 - Mar 8 by Dr_Winston |
Correct.
It is not part of Great Britain. It is part of the British Isles. |
And part of the United Kingdom, obviously. But not part of Britain. However, I am grateful for your confirmation of what is primary school standard geography.
I think dgt, with his "loony left" reference, thought I was making some kind of "Ireland for the Irish" statement. However, where Northern Ireland sits in the political landscape of the UK or otherwise is a subject I really don't give a tiny flying f*ck about. Why anyone outside of Northern Ireland gives a f*ck about it is always something that's been a source of great mystery to me.
Still, No Surrender and all that b*llocks, eh. | |
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| Welsh or British on 16:58 - Mar 8 with 692 views | Kilkennyjack |
A free scotland and then a free wales will actually strengthen and modernise the relationships between the constituent nations of these islands........our diversity is a great strength...... |  |
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| Welsh or British on 17:24 - Mar 8 with 678 views | dgt73 |
| Welsh or British on 14:24 - Mar 8 by exiledclaseboy |
I don't know about perverted my old sparring partner but it's a simple geographical and political fact that Northern Ireland is not part of Britain. |
You can play with whatever words you want, and yes northern Ireland is not part of Britain, but the correct name is the United Kingdom of great Britain and northern Ireland, so the people of northern Ireland are British and thats a fact. | |
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| Welsh or British on 17:28 - Mar 8 with 676 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Welsh or British on 17:24 - Mar 8 by dgt73 |
You can play with whatever words you want, and yes northern Ireland is not part of Britain, but the correct name is the United Kingdom of great Britain and northern Ireland, so the people of northern Ireland are British and thats a fact. |
Well no it's not but you got the first and second bits right at least. That's progress. By the same token as Lohengrin's point about telling some NI people they're not British being dangerous for your health, it's equally as dangerous to tell the other half that they are British.
In short, best avoided all round really. It's a clusterf*ck. | |
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| Welsh or British on 17:37 - Mar 8 with 669 views | dgt73 |
| Welsh or British on 17:28 - Mar 8 by exiledclaseboy |
Well no it's not but you got the first and second bits right at least. That's progress. By the same token as Lohengrin's point about telling some NI people they're not British being dangerous for your health, it's equally as dangerous to tell the other half that they are British.
In short, best avoided all round really. It's a clusterf*ck. |
What's not right. And i believe if there was a referendum in NI regarding being part of the UK or ROI most Catholics would vote to stay in the UK purely from a economic and practical stand point, because at present the roi economy is a basket case. | |
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| Welsh or British on 17:42 - Mar 8 with 665 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Welsh or British on 17:37 - Mar 8 by dgt73 |
What's not right. And i believe if there was a referendum in NI regarding being part of the UK or ROI most Catholics would vote to stay in the UK purely from a economic and practical stand point, because at present the roi economy is a basket case. |
You could be right although I doubt many catholics would vote in that referendum on economic grounds. That's conjecture though. Although it's interesting that at the last general election Sinn Fein won the most votes in NI and Irish nationalist parties won about 42% of the total votes. The gap between the two in votes has been narrowing for some time now. | |
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