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Kingsley to Hull? 16:48 - Aug 21 with 16484 viewsAussieSwan

Being reported that he is on his way as part of the Clucas deal. Some sources are saying it's also permanent

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/08/21/hull-to-land-stephen-kingsley-as-part-of-sa


I've no idea if it's in addition to the rumoured 12m outlay for Clucas or if it means the fee is reduced, but it's an interesting add-on. I don't know why we're always in a need to sell so many goddamn players, especially after the Siggy money coming in.

If this is a loan - good move. Gives the lad some playing time.

If this is a permanent transfer - I'm very uncertain on it. Would mean we only have Rangel, Naughton and Olsson as our only recognised full backs. Even with someone like Yiadom or Arias coming in that would still leave us short if we got a couple of injuries, and with Rangel due to move on soon you'd think.

Maybe it signals more of a move to the 3-5-2?

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Kingsley to Hull? on 16:51 - Aug 21 with 11208 viewsTummer_from_Texas

I'd hate to lose SK, but maybe this would indicate we like our chances with Arias and plan to have Naughton as the primary backup on both sides.

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Kingsley to Hull? on 16:53 - Aug 21 with 11181 viewsAl_Bundy

So we are trading a Scottish international and £15M+ for Clucas

Good grief !
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Kingsley to Hull? on 16:54 - Aug 21 with 11160 viewsAussieSwan

Kingsley to Hull? on 16:51 - Aug 21 by Tummer_from_Texas

I'd hate to lose SK, but maybe this would indicate we like our chances with Arias and plan to have Naughton as the primary backup on both sides.


I'm getting the same impression, but the smart thing to do would be to lock Arias in before sanctioning any Kingsley sale, just in case it falls through.

I'd hate to sell Kingsley and then not get another LB/RB in before the window shuts. We saw last season our lack of depth caught us out, when Rangel and Naughton both got injured and we had to end up playing Leroy Fer at RB...
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Kingsley to Hull? on 16:54 - Aug 21 with 11146 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

Kingsley to Hull? on 16:53 - Aug 21 by Al_Bundy

So we are trading a Scottish international and £15M+ for Clucas

Good grief !


Appalling if true.

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Kingsley to Hull? on 16:55 - Aug 21 with 11153 viewslonglostjack

I would have thought a loan deal would make more sense.

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Kingsley to Hull? on 16:55 - Aug 21 with 11146 viewsMorfa_Same

It's really strange for us to be offloading promising players like Kingsley, when we've been throwing around long-term contracts to a number of players who have done nothing to warrant it. I for one will be disappointed at this.
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Kingsley to Hull? on 16:56 - Aug 21 with 11122 viewsAl_Bundy

Kingsley to Hull? on 16:54 - Aug 21 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

Appalling if true.


Kingsley has to be valued at £4M is the current climate
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Kingsley to Hull? on 16:57 - Aug 21 with 11114 viewsAussieSwan

What would Kingsley be worth anyway? £2-3m? And is this a makeweight in the Clucas deal or on top of the £12-15m?

Because if it got the Clucas deal down to say £9-10m (plus Kingsley) then that might make more sense. But if it's £16.5m plus Kingsley then that is pure lunacy

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Kingsley to Hull? on 16:58 - Aug 21 with 11097 viewsDr_Winston

Kingsley to Hull? on 16:53 - Aug 21 by Al_Bundy

So we are trading a Scottish international and £15M+ for Clucas

Good grief !


We traded a Welsh and Dutch international plus a 10% sell on clause for a Spurs reserve...

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Kingsley to Hull? on 17:00 - Aug 21 with 11051 viewsraynor94

Kingsley to Hull? on 16:53 - Aug 21 by Al_Bundy

So we are trading a Scottish international and £15M+ for Clucas

Good grief !


Are we though? We could be paying under £10 million if Kingsley and add ons are part of the deal

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Kingsley to Hull? on 17:01 - Aug 21 with 11025 viewsAl_Bundy

Kingsley to Hull? on 16:58 - Aug 21 by Dr_Winston

We traded a Welsh and Dutch international plus a 10% sell on clause for a Spurs reserve...


At least we knew he was quality .....

Clucas could be another Tabanou
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Kingsley to Hull? on 17:03 - Aug 21 with 10984 viewsAussieSwan

Kingsley to Hull? on 17:01 - Aug 21 by Al_Bundy

At least we knew he was quality .....

Clucas could be another Tabanou


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Kingsley to Hull? on 17:05 - Aug 21 with 10952 viewsmagicdaps10

Talk is that Kingsley is costing Hull around 3.5-4M.

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Kingsley to Hull? on 17:08 - Aug 21 with 10917 viewsraynor94

Kingsley to Hull? on 17:05 - Aug 21 by magicdaps10

Talk is that Kingsley is costing Hull around 3.5-4M.


So by the time you include the add ons, it's sounding a better deal by the minute

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Kingsley to Hull? on 17:16 - Aug 21 with 10831 viewsBorojack

Kingsley to Hull? on 17:01 - Aug 21 by Al_Bundy

At least we knew he was quality .....

Clucas could be another Tabanou


Clucas is a no nonsense grafter according to a mate who supports Hull.
Don't think you could describe Tabanou as that type of player.

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Kingsley to Hull? on 17:18 - Aug 21 with 10806 viewsjackal

Stupidity. He's a good prospect and excellent back up for Olssen.

Why do you we have to sell him?

Really annoyed about this.
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Kingsley to Hull? on 17:19 - Aug 21 with 10779 viewsOldjack

Kingsley to Hull? on 16:53 - Aug 21 by Al_Bundy

So we are trading a Scottish international and £15M+ for Clucas

Good grief !


Imagine what the Toffees must have been thinking .Well and true mugged they've been
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Kingsley to Hull? on 17:20 - Aug 21 with 10760 viewslondonlisa2001

Kingsley to Hull? on 17:16 - Aug 21 by Borojack

Clucas is a no nonsense grafter according to a mate who supports Hull.
Don't think you could describe Tabanou as that type of player.


No. he was more of a no grafting nonsense.
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Kingsley to Hull? on 17:31 - Aug 21 with 10657 viewsawayjack

I'm not sure what value to put on Kingsley, but principle of offloading young international with a lot of promise feels wrong. Also, even if we bring in Arias we'd only be one injury away in defence from having no RB / LB on the bench - Rangel sadly miles too slow now. Over a season we need a plan for injuries that's not as desparate as Fer at RB last season.
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Kingsley to Hull? on 17:35 - Aug 21 with 10628 viewsAl_Bundy

So are we assuming Hull are paying us £12M with them taking Kingsley?
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Kingsley to Hull? on 17:37 - Aug 21 with 10607 viewsSwanjaxs

Perhaps Hull insisted Kingsley was part of the deal? ..... who knows

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Kingsley to Hull? on 18:22 - Aug 21 with 10387 viewsKilkennyjack

Kingsley to Hull? on 16:55 - Aug 21 by Morfa_Same

It's really strange for us to be offloading promising players like Kingsley, when we've been throwing around long-term contracts to a number of players who have done nothing to warrant it. I for one will be disappointed at this.


We have so very few promising youngsters.
SK is a capable deputy left back, but a good move for him.

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Kingsley to Hull? on 18:36 - Aug 21 with 10257 viewsDaggyjack

I like SK but he's 23, hardly a raw kid anymore and he isn't going to play ahead of Olsson or Naughton as back up LB.
If and it's a big if it saves us £4 million to go towards signing Arias, it's a good deal all round.
Clucas is being criticised for being a UK based player as opposed to a foreign signing cos we love a foreign signing.
Clucas is a good addition to the team.
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Kingsley to Hull? on 18:40 - Aug 21 with 10221 viewseddie71

Kingsley to Hull? on 16:58 - Aug 21 by Dr_Winston

We traded a Welsh and Dutch international plus a 10% sell on clause for a Spurs reserve...


This. I will take the unusual position of really liking Clucas. He is a good player, is consistent moves the ball well and will battle.
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Kingsley to Hull? on 18:48 - Aug 21 with 10151 viewsYossarian

Clucks can also play LB apparently. However, we have Carroll as a left sided midfield player. It might possibly indicate a move towards cover as a wing back as well as midfield and this would make sense if Clement wants to use the 3-5-2 formation more. It was clearly a success for 75 mins on Saturday but this still requires a big investment in creative, Centre-midfield players. I'm confused really.

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