| The Nasty Party on 16:33 - Apr 23 with 1173 views | Highjack |
| The Nasty Party on 16:08 - Apr 23 by Thrasher6 |
I do know that. The point is he should have been the candidate...and would have got elected. The party blew it....again. |
He might have done better than his brother but it’s unlikely he would have won. What would David Milliband have offered to deny the snp surge in Scotland for example which lost labour 25+ seats? What would he have offered to have held on to the many regular labour voters who contributed to the 4million+ votes UKIP received?
He might have been a far smoother operator but he would have likely faced electoral oblivion just because of the situation at the time. Labour are dead in Scotland. They’ve lost the faith of lots of people in their traditional areas. How are they going to get that back? A complete culture change.
One man, one leader can’t do it. Hell it probably isn’t even about policy anymore. They’ve spent the last God knows how long attacking their own supporters in their own heartlands. They’re filled with individuals who seem to absolutely hate Britain and it’s history. They’re so focused on championing minorities (not a bad thing but they go waaayyy over the top) they’ve completely forsaken the needs of those families who have supported them for generations.
It’s not about left or right, it’s not about socialism or capitalism or the NHS or personality or leadership. It’s completely obvious to anyone with a brain that the disconnect between the Labour Party and everyone who should be voting for them has never been bigger. |  |
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| The Nasty Party on 16:43 - Apr 23 with 1166 views | Catullus |
| The Nasty Party on 14:42 - Apr 23 by Ace_Jack |
The nurse isn't a councillor, shes vice chair of a local party, which is a nothing title. The Councillor lost her job but remained as a councillor. I read the article like they were trying to get the nurse sacked:
Another Labour Party activist who appears to remain in post, however, is Kate Sheehan — a Rochford and Southend CLP vice chair and nurse
Why would they care about her being in post as a vice chair of a local party, which is a nothing title?
What she's said is not pleasant and I'm not arguing that she was correct or decent in what she said. Should she be a member of the Labour party? With views like that, probably not, but a bit of perspective in a pandemic. She's a nurse and it does noone any good to sack her for some tweets that dont impede on how she does her job. |
She used her position to validate her attack on the government, she lied. When anyone in government does that they get a right rollocking on here and rightly so.
When Bojo or Hancock lie they are called vile scum and face calls to be sacked. |  |
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| The Nasty Party on 16:51 - Apr 23 with 1154 views | Thrasher6 |
| The Nasty Party on 16:33 - Apr 23 by Highjack |
He might have done better than his brother but it’s unlikely he would have won. What would David Milliband have offered to deny the snp surge in Scotland for example which lost labour 25+ seats? What would he have offered to have held on to the many regular labour voters who contributed to the 4million+ votes UKIP received?
He might have been a far smoother operator but he would have likely faced electoral oblivion just because of the situation at the time. Labour are dead in Scotland. They’ve lost the faith of lots of people in their traditional areas. How are they going to get that back? A complete culture change.
One man, one leader can’t do it. Hell it probably isn’t even about policy anymore. They’ve spent the last God knows how long attacking their own supporters in their own heartlands. They’re filled with individuals who seem to absolutely hate Britain and it’s history. They’re so focused on championing minorities (not a bad thing but they go waaayyy over the top) they’ve completely forsaken the needs of those families who have supported them for generations.
It’s not about left or right, it’s not about socialism or capitalism or the NHS or personality or leadership. It’s completely obvious to anyone with a brain that the disconnect between the Labour Party and everyone who should be voting for them has never been bigger. |
Agree with most of that.....but to win an election you have to win over "middle England". You have to get the right wing press (who feed "middle England") on your side. That is not that complicated in my humble opinion. A centre left candidate that they like... |  |
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| The Nasty Party on 17:02 - Apr 23 with 1143 views | Highjack |
| The Nasty Party on 16:51 - Apr 23 by Thrasher6 |
Agree with most of that.....but to win an election you have to win over "middle England". You have to get the right wing press (who feed "middle England") on your side. That is not that complicated in my humble opinion. A centre left candidate that they like... |
The press are becoming increasingly irrelevant. They tend to follow rather than lead anyway. The Sun switched to labour when it became clear Blair was going to win. They switched back when it became clear Brown would lose. | |
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| The Nasty Party on 17:22 - Apr 23 with 1130 views | Ace_Jack |
| The Nasty Party on 15:44 - Apr 23 by BarrySwan |
Don't get cocky Mr Potty Mouth,I didn't fess up to anything, you read the story incorrectly and started ranting on a different issue rather than the labour councillor headline.
My opinion is that anyone within the health service is entitled to an opinion but anyone quoting what turns out to be incorrect facts who has serious links to a political party should be having their motives questioned and take any consequences that come their way.
And not be defended by rabid lefties desperate to portray the insidious institution that is the Labour Party in a positive light when it and many of its members have serious issues that thankfully are rejected by the majority of the population. |
You said you thought she should lose her job for her tweets. Then you edited your post to make it look like you didn’t. Now you’re being mealy mouthed over the issue.
I can can you a coward and a melt instead of a c**t if you prefer? |  | | |
| The Nasty Party on 17:46 - Apr 23 with 1116 views | LeonWasGod |
Why do people hang on the words of these professional social media sh*tposters (of all colours, not just stirrers like Guido)? It's pointless rubbish. |  | | |
| The Nasty Party on 17:57 - Apr 23 with 1108 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Nasty Party on 17:02 - Apr 23 by Highjack |
The press are becoming increasingly irrelevant. They tend to follow rather than lead anyway. The Sun switched to labour when it became clear Blair was going to win. They switched back when it became clear Brown would lose. |
The longer Labour supporters hang onto the belief that it's only Rupert Murdoch and the Barclay Brothers standing between them and power the longer they'll remain out of it. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| The Nasty Party on 18:14 - Apr 23 with 1090 views | BarrySwan |
| The Nasty Party on 17:22 - Apr 23 by Ace_Jack |
You said you thought she should lose her job for her tweets. Then you edited your post to make it look like you didn’t. Now you’re being mealy mouthed over the issue.
I can can you a coward and a melt instead of a c**t if you prefer? |
Call me what you like its just a pity that your debating skills are so abysmal that you are unable to communicate without using such foul language young children read this site you know, as you well know such behaviour is normally considered to be typical of those with a limited intellect
I must apologise if I have given you the mistaken impression that I'm a timid little wallflower cowed into submission by a foul mouthed ranting Labour Party apologist, because I'm far from it.
The original response prompted in response to your rant after your appallingly poor comprehension of a quite clear online article is in the quote box if you wish to refresh your memory.
I will repeat for the last time just to clear up any confusion in your fevered mind that if any NHS worker ( or I suppose any other worker) conveys false information on a national level and is also known to be a party ( of any party) political worker or position holder then their motivation for any such comments should be questioned and any disciplinary action felt appropriate up to and including being relieved of duties on a permanent basis considered in accordance with employment law.
Now stop blaming others because you simply aren't capable of reading a simple article correctly and are now scrambling about trying to deflect from your own shortcomings.
And stop with the hysterical rantings, its not doing you any favours. [Post edited 23 Apr 2020 18:16]
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| The Nasty Party on 18:26 - Apr 23 with 1077 views | Ace_Jack |
| The Nasty Party on 18:14 - Apr 23 by BarrySwan |
Call me what you like its just a pity that your debating skills are so abysmal that you are unable to communicate without using such foul language young children read this site you know, as you well know such behaviour is normally considered to be typical of those with a limited intellect
I must apologise if I have given you the mistaken impression that I'm a timid little wallflower cowed into submission by a foul mouthed ranting Labour Party apologist, because I'm far from it.
The original response prompted in response to your rant after your appallingly poor comprehension of a quite clear online article is in the quote box if you wish to refresh your memory.
I will repeat for the last time just to clear up any confusion in your fevered mind that if any NHS worker ( or I suppose any other worker) conveys false information on a national level and is also known to be a party ( of any party) political worker or position holder then their motivation for any such comments should be questioned and any disciplinary action felt appropriate up to and including being relieved of duties on a permanent basis considered in accordance with employment law.
Now stop blaming others because you simply aren't capable of reading a simple article correctly and are now scrambling about trying to deflect from your own shortcomings.
And stop with the hysterical rantings, its not doing you any favours. [Post edited 23 Apr 2020 18:16]
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| The Nasty Party on 19:30 - Apr 23 with 1049 views | Ebo |
| The Nasty Party on 14:03 - Apr 23 by Ace_Jack |
Most of the cranks are clearing off now that Sir Keir wont entertain their nonsense. I expect they'll drift and split as they've always done. I know of at least 3 particularly vocal local "activists" who drove me away from local activism that have already packed it in.
There's always been a crank hard left element but it grew and fed off the legitimacy of the leadership for the last 4 years. Now their place in the centre of the Labour Universe has been supplanted, they've completely lost their sh*t. Looks like the strategy of being horrific towards everyone who wasn't ideologically in step with them has backfired, and I for one am chuffed. |
To be replaced by even more cranks who are desperate for their emails and whatsapp messages regarding sabotaging an election not to be public knowledge.
Labour is finished as a party. |  |
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| The Nasty Party on 19:31 - Apr 23 with 1048 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The Nasty Party on 19:30 - Apr 23 by Ebo |
To be replaced by even more cranks who are desperate for their emails and whatsapp messages regarding sabotaging an election not to be public knowledge.
Labour is finished as a party. |
Posts like this make me more optimistic about Labour than I have been for years. |  |
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| The Nasty Party on 19:36 - Apr 23 with 1040 views | Ebo |
| The Nasty Party on 16:51 - Apr 23 by Thrasher6 |
Agree with most of that.....but to win an election you have to win over "middle England". You have to get the right wing press (who feed "middle England") on your side. That is not that complicated in my humble opinion. A centre left candidate that they like... |
That is just maintaining the status quo so nothing really changes. This country needs radical changes. | |
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| The Nasty Party on 19:39 - Apr 23 with 1035 views | Ebo |
| The Nasty Party on 19:31 - Apr 23 by exiledclaseboy |
Posts like this make me more optimistic about Labour than I have been for years. |
Why Andrew? The party is a joke, it's a return to Blairite like policy. People won't vote for that be it left or center-left. | |
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| The Nasty Party on 19:43 - Apr 23 with 1027 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The Nasty Party on 19:39 - Apr 23 by Ebo |
Why Andrew? The party is a joke, it's a return to Blairite like policy. People won't vote for that be it left or center-left. |
History tells us otherwise. What post-war history has consistently proved is that people won’t vote for the kind of divisive, hate-fuelled and destructive leftism espoused by you and Corbyn. | |
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| The Nasty Party on 19:46 - Apr 23 with 1022 views | Darran |
| The Nasty Party on 19:43 - Apr 23 by exiledclaseboy |
History tells us otherwise. What post-war history has consistently proved is that people won’t vote for the kind of divisive, hate-fuelled and destructive leftism espoused by you and Corbyn. |
Ebo should be in a Nasty Party on his own the things he’s said. lol |  |
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| The Nasty Party on 19:47 - Apr 23 with 1018 views | Ebo |
Not after his Iraq war policies Winston. People still won't vote labour because of it. | |
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| The Nasty Party on 19:48 - Apr 23 with 1013 views | Ebo |
| The Nasty Party on 19:46 - Apr 23 by Darran |
Ebo should be in a Nasty Party on his own the things he’s said. lol |
I know you are bored Dar but don't start eh? You are like broken record and the most boring one too. | |
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| The Nasty Party on 19:48 - Apr 23 with 1013 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The Nasty Party on 19:47 - Apr 23 by Ebo |
Not after his Iraq war policies Winston. People still won't vote labour because of it. |
But more people voted Labour in 2017 than they had in decades. It was Corbyn’s moment of triumph despite still losing. | |
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| The Nasty Party on 19:50 - Apr 23 with 1010 views | Darran |
| The Nasty Party on 19:48 - Apr 23 by Ebo |
I know you are bored Dar but don't start eh? You are like broken record and the most boring one too. |
Well I’m only speaking the truth. Only the other day you were hoping Cummings and Katie Hopkins died in agony of Covid-19.
How the fuçk that makes someone a liberal is anyone’s guess. | |
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| The Nasty Party on 19:52 - Apr 23 with 1007 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The Nasty Party on 19:50 - Apr 23 by Darran |
Well I’m only speaking the truth. Only the other day you were hoping Cummings and Katie Hopkins died in agony of Covid-19.
How the fuçk that makes someone a liberal is anyone’s guess. |
Don’t mistake liberalism with anything to do with Corbyn or his followers. They’re mostly the very opposite of liberal. | |
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| The Nasty Party on 19:53 - Apr 23 with 1005 views | Darran |
| The Nasty Party on 19:52 - Apr 23 by exiledclaseboy |
Don’t mistake liberalism with anything to do with Corbyn or his followers. They’re mostly the very opposite of liberal. |
Oh I know that. Nasty people. | |
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| The Nasty Party on 19:54 - Apr 23 with 1002 views | Ebo |
| The Nasty Party on 19:48 - Apr 23 by exiledclaseboy |
But more people voted Labour in 2017 than they had in decades. It was Corbyn’s moment of triumph despite still losing. |
He was very very close Andrew due to his policies which are far removed from that of Blair.
Now, this dossier has emerged, I am intrigued by its contents. If Starmer wants to win everyone over he needs to act now on this otherwise the party will not unite and they will be back to square one. [Post edited 23 Apr 2020 19:55]
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| The Nasty Party on 19:56 - Apr 23 with 999 views | Ebo |
| The Nasty Party on 19:53 - Apr 23 by Darran |
Oh I know that. Nasty people. |
Yet anything you disagree with Dar is met with "sack him" or "he should get the death sentence for that"
Pot.kettle and all that | |
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