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Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot.
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 06:48 - Nov 5 by Jack_Kass
Point out in the supporting text were either vote was processed (you can't)
I’m not the one making the claim, I’m just posting it on here as it’s funny.
People have clearly been receiving (which is a concern in itself) and sending in ballots for dead people. People who died decades ago... which shows the utter nonsense of universal mail in balloting that I have stated many times in the lead up, especially when you don’t even need signature verification.
I know you love that photo but relax a little. Chill.
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I find it strange that the people most animated about the US elections and the what looks like out going President are the people who the country and individual have at best very little bearing on them. It's almost attention seeking if I was cynical. Don't get me wrong I've followed the election, its been fascinating but I know it doesn't affect me in the slightest. I got far bigger fish to fry personally.
A voting process should be very simple. There should be no need for a state to try and get rid of a decision that ID needs to be provided or that signature matching is in place. It seems odd that they would.
Voting day, everyone turns up in person with their ID - those that can’t for reasons of disabilities etc can mail theirs in with verified ID.
Votes get counted while being closely observed by representatives from both sides.
A result is given. That simple.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:23 - Nov 5 by Kilkennyjack
Anyway, i believe we can now all agree that President Biden is the will of the American people. The people have spoken.
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Jail time for Trump and his goons. OUT.
It’s certainly the will of Capital and its MSM loudhailer.
After a brief four-year hiatus it can now resume it’s twin-track policy of shipping American manufacturing abroad where it can draw bigger dividends in slave wage, safety-free locations and facilitating mass third world immigration to depress wages in those instances where it can’t transfer.
“Be thankful you’ve got a job at all.” You’ll be hearing that a lot going forward.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:10 - Nov 5 with 1326 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:52 - Nov 5 by Lohengrin
It’s certainly the will of Capital and its MSM loudhailer.
After a brief four-year hiatus it can now resume it’s twin-track policy of shipping American manufacturing abroad where it can draw bigger dividends in slave wage, safety-free locations and facilitating mass third world immigration to depress wages in those instances where it can’t transfer.
“Be thankful you’ve got a job at all.” You’ll be hearing that a lot going forward.
They must be the two worst presidential candidates in American history. Surely a country of over 300 million could find two better candidates.
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:10 - Nov 5 by felixstowe_jack
They must be the two worst presidential candidates in American history. Surely a country of over 300 million could find two better candidates.
Trump has proved anything but.
Lowest recorded unemployment rate in history Lowest recorded black unemployment rate in history Highest median family income ever recorded Peace deals signed in the Middle East once deemed impossible North Korea conflict defused First President in decades not to sent troops to a new war/conflict Defeated ISIS and broke up the caliphate Signed police reform Lowered taxes Improved America’s position with trade with China
The list of achievements go on and on. All that and more in a single term.
Biden on the other hand has been in politics for 47 years including the White House for 8 and did naff all in all that time.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:24 - Nov 5 by Dr_Parnassus
Trump has proved anything but.
Lowest recorded unemployment rate in history Lowest recorded black unemployment rate in history Highest median family income ever recorded Peace deals signed in the Middle East once deemed impossible North Korea conflict defused First President in decades not to sent troops to a new war/conflict Defeated ISIS and broke up the caliphate Signed police reform Lowered taxes Improved America’s position with trade with China
The list of achievements go on and on. All that and more in a single term.
Biden on the other hand has been in politics for 47 years including the White House for 8 and did naff all in all that time.
Yet America is more divided than ever and his handling of the coronavirus has probably been the worst of all the major countries . 10 million cases 234,000 deaths.
I agree he has had many achievements and was far better than Obama and Biden has never even looked competent.
If only trump had shown some humility and not had such a confrontational style he would have walked a second term. As they say in politics timing is everything.
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:45 - Nov 5 by felixstowe_jack
Yet America is more divided than ever and his handling of the coronavirus has probably been the worst of all the major countries . 10 million cases 234,000 deaths.
I agree he has had many achievements and was far better than Obama and Biden has never even looked competent.
If only trump had shown some humility and not had such a confrontational style he would have walked a second term. As they say in politics timing is everything.
America being divided isn’t his doing. It’s the left’s doing and their ever moving and ever more ridiculous social constructs they inflict on the public demanding they be accepted even when they have not been universally agreed.
They pretended they were rioting over George Floyd and demanded police reform. He signed it. They then changed it to whatever else they could think of and politicise in order to continue to loot, burn and attack. Backed and fuelled by the media as it could yet again be politicised against the President they wanted out.
As for the pandemic, it’s a global pandemic. Global being the operative word. He closed down travel from China immediately when Biden said he was xenophobic for doing so and it is down to each state to handle state response. The early predictions were 1 million dead in 2020 and they are at a quarter of that. The key to handling a pandemic is keeping hospitals under capacity while keeping people in jobs and the economy going - that’s what happened. Lockdowns are not the answer and never has been.
America has always been a generally unhealthy country with 40% obesity rate. But nobody wants to make that obvious link because that would take away their political fire power.
As has been said Trump increased his % support with all races and genders except white men as they were the subject of a concerted attack by a dishonest media. When you are being attacked for as little as walking down a ramp, being distrusting and outspoken over such things is perfectly valid.
The people really have spoken, the media claimed it should be a landslide. Yet record voting numbers and half the country is endorsing him even in the face of such a sustained attack for years on end by the media and propagandists - its an incredible achievement to be so close.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:43 - Nov 5 by Dr_Parnassus
Comey is about as honest and Republican as you are.
He affiliates with who he thinks benefits him, for most of his life that was Republican.
How many times has Trump changed his political affiliation? 5 times is it?
What it boils down to is they are all at it. Politics isn't about serving anyone other than self and it's been that way for a long time.
Trump is a narcissist, he loves it when people fawn over him. That's why he wants to be POTUS. I suppose in his defence there, to be fawned over means being a generally good president. His probelm is the divide in the USA is so potent that a large minority (like here in the UK) would vote him out even if the cure was worse than the disease. We see it on here when opposing sides call each other names purely for being left or right even when they have no idea what that person is actually like.
Politics needs a reset, worldwide. It's far too divisive, self serving and greedy.
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:57 - Nov 5 by Catullus
How many times has Trump changed his political affiliation? 5 times is it?
What it boils down to is they are all at it. Politics isn't about serving anyone other than self and it's been that way for a long time.
Trump is a narcissist, he loves it when people fawn over him. That's why he wants to be POTUS. I suppose in his defence there, to be fawned over means being a generally good president. His probelm is the divide in the USA is so potent that a large minority (like here in the UK) would vote him out even if the cure was worse than the disease. We see it on here when opposing sides call each other names purely for being left or right even when they have no idea what that person is actually like.
Politics needs a reset, worldwide. It's far too divisive, self serving and greedy.
I don’t know, I haven’t asked.
But people should change their political affiliations, I have a few times because people and parties represent different things at different times. It’s not a football team.
All my life I have been left of center until the left became utterly bonkers. I now identify with the Center right, but should they change and the left ditch the nonsense that has infected it recently then may identify more with them again.
I am with the side of common sense and freedoms, which ever side offers more of that gets my political support. Currently that would be the Trump administration.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:24 - Nov 5 by Dr_Parnassus
Trump has proved anything but.
Lowest recorded unemployment rate in history Lowest recorded black unemployment rate in history Highest median family income ever recorded Peace deals signed in the Middle East once deemed impossible North Korea conflict defused First President in decades not to sent troops to a new war/conflict Defeated ISIS and broke up the caliphate Signed police reform Lowered taxes Improved America’s position with trade with China
The list of achievements go on and on. All that and more in a single term.
Biden on the other hand has been in politics for 47 years including the White House for 8 and did naff all in all that time.
If Trump was really smart he would look at his images,listen to himself and then reflect on the obnoxious braggart he sees.
It is all to do with HIM, and frankly,for most,policies go out of the windown when faced with watching a preening ,arrogant liar- and he IS.
Right now,with his attitude to covid,he could be committing hundreds of thousands to covid.
I do not believe he had covid ,simply making out he did to con people into believing it aint as bad as they say.
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:27 - Nov 5 by onehunglow
If Trump was really smart he would look at his images,listen to himself and then reflect on the obnoxious braggart he sees.
It is all to do with HIM, and frankly,for most,policies go out of the windown when faced with watching a preening ,arrogant liar- and he IS.
Right now,with his attitude to covid,he could be committing hundreds of thousands to covid.
I do not believe he had covid ,simply making out he did to con people into believing it aint as bad as they say.
If there are self reflection periods being handed out in America then the media would be number 1 on that list, they have been nothing short of a disgrace.
I don’t pay much attention to conspiracy theories that are trotted out seemingly every week from Russian disinformation to Trump pretending to have Covid. They just don’t interest me without any sort of evidence.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:30 - Nov 5 by Dr_Parnassus
If there are self reflection periods being handed out in America then the media would be number 1 on that list, they have been nothing short of a disgrace.
I don’t pay much attention to conspiracy theories that are trotted out seemingly every week from Russian disinformation to Trump pretending to have Covid. They just don’t interest me without any sort of evidence.
Trump cannot blame the media for the speeches that he makes and the image that he portrays. He is all about image although he is not alone but he is about Trump first and foremost.
I have to Biden is hardly impressive and looks a colour by numbers politician which is a shame as America is not beautiful right now
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:38 - Nov 5 by onehunglow
Trump cannot blame the media for the speeches that he makes and the image that he portrays. He is all about image although he is not alone but he is about Trump first and foremost.
I have to Biden is hardly impressive and looks a colour by numbers politician which is a shame as America is not beautiful right now
Depends which part of them. I am highly amused and often impressed by his speeches, I think it’s one of his strong points in fact.
I would also say often you can attribute much of what he says to the media, as he uses them to set the record straight on the media disinformation campaign. Many of these speeches are also not reported accurately and may even have shaped your own views. Remember the “fine people on both sides” hoax? That is still spread by morons to this day.
You can not like the bloke if you want, nobody is asking you to be best mates with him. He’s a outsider politician and he should be judged on the results of his job - a job he has done very well in. The fact he has tens of millions of people of all colours and creeds endorsing him after years of propaganda attack against him from all angles speaks volumes.
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