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Slavery reparation 18:38 - Oct 24 with 3269 viewsjohnlangy

It's all the rage at the moment so I have a thought.

The idea would be that the UK government would fund this in whatever way it was agreed whether that be simply loads of money or development investment in those countries or whatever.

It's fair to say that very few people in the UK benefited from the slave trade when it existed. A small number of families made absolute fortunes while the vast bulk of the population got nothing out of it.

But then the government agreed to provide compensation to those slave owners to make up for their 'loss of earnings' from the vile trade when it was abolished.

So they borrowed £20 million to provide that compo and we have been paying back that debt for the last 200 years (until 2015). That £20 million, allowing for inflation, would now equate to £16/17 billion.

So rather than saying we should all pay reparation why not make those families pay it all back. Let's say £50 billion. Sounds a nice number to me.

And if it was argued that in some small way we all benefited from the trade then it could be said that we've already paid our dues because the £16/17 billion came out of ordinary peoples taxes.
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Slavery reparation on 22:45 - Oct 26 with 567 viewsKilkennyjack

Slavery reparation on 18:26 - Oct 26 by onehunglow

It ain’t my fault m or yours
The slave traders were a minority and onky they got rich
We are asking our people 200 yrs later to pay former colonies moneys they would squander anyway
Look at Africa and how independence has served them.
Corrupt as hell .
There is hardly a stable country in the whole continent


The Westmonster government were corrupt as Covid raged - whilst us lot cheered our NHS.
The deserved to be thrown from office.

The next step is judgement day for those who took our money during the darkest of days.
Unforgivable.

Beware of the Risen People

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Slavery reparation on 00:10 - Oct 27 with 547 viewsmajorraglan

Slavery reparation on 12:56 - Oct 26 by BarrySwan

A couple of years ago I was in London and went along to the London Museum in the docklands.

There was a fantastic display covering a whole floor of the building focussed solely on the slave trade which explained many of the facts of the disgrace that slavery was and of course still is.

One particular fact that made my blood boil was the revelation that myself and every other UK taxpayer had been paying a debt of borrowed money for the huge sum of money paid to slave owners in 1837 to release their slaves although disgracefully some of the releases still took six or more years to complete.

The sum represented 40% of the UKs annual spending budget over £16.5bn in todays money and took the best part of 200 years for us to pay back


I'm still absolutely incandescent that myself and other innocent taxpayers had to repay this money out of our taxes until 2015.

So those of us who have never owned slaves had to fund this debt repayment throughout our working lives and now have to listen to those who were never slaves demanding more id forked out by ourselves.

And those rich families in the UK and elsewhere who to this day are living off the proceeds of the money paid out to their ancestors continue to live the high life off their ill gotten gains from such a disgusting trade.

So firstly the UK government should immediately be suing those 'Old money' families who have lived off these funds for the past 200 hundred years and get the money back for the UK taxpayers off these privileged families and businesses associated with them.

And then those countries who are abroad and wish to do likewise after the UK taxpayer has been recompensed through recovered monies put into the exchequer are quite welcome to sue whats left of the old slave owning families money which I would doubt. is unlikely to be much after the UK taxpayer has finished with their recovery action.



Any suggestion that the UK taxpayer funds anything else should have already been totally dismissed in a simple statement once and for all to those seeking even more off ordinary working people in the UK..


Slavery is aboherent and what happened all those years ago was wrong. In terms of the compensation, it should have been the slaves who were compensated and not the wealthy owners.

We can’t undo what’s was done over 200 years ago and I think expecting this country to shell out on compensation is nuts, even if we wanted to we couldn't because we’re skint. Go back 200 years ago and most of the people in the U.K. were little more than surfs and peasants (not quite slaves but not far off) and the population including Ireland was 18.5m. To expect modern day U.K. to pay compensation is in my opinion a non starter.
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Slavery reparation on 08:03 - Oct 27 with 492 viewsonehunglow

Slavery reparation on 22:45 - Oct 26 by Kilkennyjack

The Westmonster government were corrupt as Covid raged - whilst us lot cheered our NHS.
The deserved to be thrown from office.

The next step is judgement day for those who took our money during the darkest of days.
Unforgivable.


You and your your family should not pay for the sins of your forefathers .
Welsh people involved too.
Arabs were very active slave traders . Not sure they would pay reparation which let’s face it would mean easy money for tin pot drug fuelled countries like Jamaica

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Slavery reparation on 08:17 - Oct 27 with 480 viewsBoundy

Slavery reparation on 08:03 - Oct 27 by onehunglow

You and your your family should not pay for the sins of your forefathers .
Welsh people involved too.
Arabs were very active slave traders . Not sure they would pay reparation which let’s face it would mean easy money for tin pot drug fuelled countries like Jamaica


My dad knew him , so I'm told, anyway just when will the madness stop. The scars from last weeks self flagellations still sting .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/david-lloyd-george-s-birthplace-to-be-decol

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Slavery reparation on 08:22 - Oct 27 with 482 viewsonehunglow

Slavery reparation on 08:17 - Oct 27 by Boundy

My dad knew him , so I'm told, anyway just when will the madness stop. The scars from last weeks self flagellations still sting .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/david-lloyd-george-s-birthplace-to-be-decol


We’re going to hell on a handcart
No end to this matey,is there

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Slavery reparation on 13:47 - Oct 27 with 460 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Slavery reparation on 08:17 - Oct 27 by Boundy

My dad knew him , so I'm told, anyway just when will the madness stop. The scars from last weeks self flagellations still sting .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/david-lloyd-george-s-birthplace-to-be-decol


Me after reading that article. How can these historical vandals get away with such stuff?


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Slavery reparation on 14:05 - Oct 27 with 451 viewsAnotherJohn

Slavery reparation on 13:47 - Oct 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Me after reading that article. How can these historical vandals get away with such stuff?



Just how right-on museum staff can be seen as leading historians is a bit of a mystery. However, as the experience of the Scottish Parliament shows, the devolved administrations come up with weird ideas out of tune with those of ordinary people.
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Slavery reparation on 17:55 - Oct 27 with 398 viewsKilkennyjack

Slavery reparation on 14:05 - Oct 27 by AnotherJohn

Just how right-on museum staff can be seen as leading historians is a bit of a mystery. However, as the experience of the Scottish Parliament shows, the devolved administrations come up with weird ideas out of tune with those of ordinary people.


The UK Tory govt insisted that we change the colour of our passports, and insisted the the union flag is flown above the dragon flag in Cymru where both flags are flown. Apparently these were important enough to get sorted whilst unfinished Brexit shot us in the foot and Covid raged.

Culture war nonsense.

Ordinary people more worried about the cost of heating and foods.

Remember the ‘Nightingale’ that were never used due to no nurses ?
Great name though so Johnson’s job is done.
Culture and spin more important than delivery and people.

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Slavery reparation on 18:02 - Oct 27 with 390 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Slavery reparation on 17:55 - Oct 27 by Kilkennyjack

The UK Tory govt insisted that we change the colour of our passports, and insisted the the union flag is flown above the dragon flag in Cymru where both flags are flown. Apparently these were important enough to get sorted whilst unfinished Brexit shot us in the foot and Covid raged.

Culture war nonsense.

Ordinary people more worried about the cost of heating and foods.

Remember the ‘Nightingale’ that were never used due to no nurses ?
Great name though so Johnson’s job is done.
Culture and spin more important than delivery and people.


We would have need the nightingale hospital if we had not developed vaccines so quickly. Them you would have blamed the government for providing bed capacity.

Glad to see you back after trolling a sick royal back in February.

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Slavery reparation on 18:03 - Oct 27 with 390 viewsAnotherJohn

Slavery reparation on 17:55 - Oct 27 by Kilkennyjack

The UK Tory govt insisted that we change the colour of our passports, and insisted the the union flag is flown above the dragon flag in Cymru where both flags are flown. Apparently these were important enough to get sorted whilst unfinished Brexit shot us in the foot and Covid raged.

Culture war nonsense.

Ordinary people more worried about the cost of heating and foods.

Remember the ‘Nightingale’ that were never used due to no nurses ?
Great name though so Johnson’s job is done.
Culture and spin more important than delivery and people.


Looks to me as though there are two or three who are out of tune with the rest of us on here.
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Slavery reparation on 19:49 - Oct 27 with 362 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

A bit predictable....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/27/labour-backbenchers-accuse-keir-st

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Slavery reparation on 19:56 - Oct 27 with 353 viewsKeithHaynes

That paper pedals hate .

A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
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Slavery reparation on 19:57 - Oct 27 with 350 viewsAnotherJohn

One of the leading lights of the Senedd's anti-racism strategy is Maya Sharma, an adviser who helped write the programme. Amazingly, she argues that racism is only something initiated by White people: “Racism is, fundamentally, the belief that white people and their ways of thinking, culture, political systems and histories are superior to that of other ‘races’.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/racism-white-people-hold-negative-140000105.html?gucc

One would think that with a name like Sharma she would have a global perspective on race relations. Does she really know Asia?

Is Ms Sharma a prominent academic and historian? No, she is Collections Access Officer at the Ahmed Iqbal Ullah Race Relations Resource Centre in Manchester. Next we will have librarians rather than academics deciding university curricula.
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Slavery reparation on 01:13 - Oct 28 with 293 viewsKilkennyjack

Slavery reparation on 18:02 - Oct 27 by felixstowe_jack

We would have need the nightingale hospital if we had not developed vaccines so quickly. Them you would have blamed the government for providing bed capacity.

Glad to see you back after trolling a sick royal back in February.


Repeat after me …… the Nightingale hospitals were an absolute waste of money as all the medical staff were super busy in the real hospitals.

There was nobody to staff them.

The rule was any patient admitted had to bring their own nurse with them, so they never got used.
£530 million wasted.

Everything Johnson touched turned to shite.
Great name though …..

Beware of the Risen People

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Slavery reparation on 01:17 - Oct 28 with 291 viewsKilkennyjack

Slavery reparation on 18:03 - Oct 27 by AnotherJohn

Looks to me as though there are two or three who are out of tune with the rest of us on here.


Does not mean the minority are wrong though.

You only have to look at your Brexit-shite.

Hows taking control of the borders working out for you ?

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Slavery reparation on 08:12 - Oct 28 with 264 viewsraynor94

Slavery reparation on 01:13 - Oct 28 by Kilkennyjack

Repeat after me …… the Nightingale hospitals were an absolute waste of money as all the medical staff were super busy in the real hospitals.

There was nobody to staff them.

The rule was any patient admitted had to bring their own nurse with them, so they never got used.
£530 million wasted.

Everything Johnson touched turned to shite.
Great name though …..


Forgotten about your sick trolling have you ?

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Slavery reparation on 08:32 - Oct 28 with 252 viewsBoundy

Slavery reparation on 08:12 - Oct 28 by raynor94

Forgotten about your sick trolling have you ?


We haven't nor should.

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Slavery reparation on 09:09 - Oct 28 with 240 viewsAnotherJohn

As I recall, his last forum holiday came about because of his intemperate language. Nothing much seems to have changed, looking at the two posts above.
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Slavery reparation on 09:13 - Oct 28 with 236 viewsonehunglow

Slavery reparation on 21:14 - Oct 25 by SullutaCreturned

Are you personally responsible for any of the slavery that happened 200 years ago? If the answer is no then why should you, why should any of us today have to pay for it?

Those whose fortunes were built on slavery, they should be the ones paying.


Only a few benefited
My Gid ,the rest of us were half starved and living in squalor

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Slavery reparation on 09:52 - Oct 28 with 226 viewsmajorraglan

Slavery reparation on 09:13 - Oct 28 by onehunglow

Only a few benefited
My Gid ,the rest of us were half starved and living in squalor


Absolutely, our ancestors were pretty much condemned to a life of servitude and squalor, people need to remember that as do the people calling for the reparations. Your landed gentry and the people who benefitted from slavery are of course a different matter altogether.
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Slavery reparation on 09:59 - Oct 28 with 220 viewsonehunglow

Slavery reparation on 09:52 - Oct 28 by majorraglan

Absolutely, our ancestors were pretty much condemned to a life of servitude and squalor, people need to remember that as do the people calling for the reparations. Your landed gentry and the people who benefitted from slavery are of course a different matter altogether.


Even a cursory look at some of the sepia photos around of kids in the east end T the time of Victorias jubilee are sickening .

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Slavery reparation on 10:05 - Oct 28 with 221 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Slavery reparation on 01:17 - Oct 28 by Kilkennyjack

Does not mean the minority are wrong though.

You only have to look at your Brexit-shite.

Hows taking control of the borders working out for you ?


If the EU had any control over their border and criminals moving through their territory and an entire continent unchecked there wouldnt be an issue.

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Slavery reparation on 10:14 - Oct 28 with 214 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Slavery reparation on 09:09 - Oct 28 by AnotherJohn

As I recall, his last forum holiday came about because of his intemperate language. Nothing much seems to have changed, looking at the two posts above.


It wasn’t just his language. It was his constant insinuations that Kate Middleton wasn’t really ill, she had been chased into hiding by the royal family who were trying to kill her or something, I can’t remember the details but it was bat shit crazy.

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Slavery reparation on 12:00 - Oct 28 with 191 viewsAnotherJohn

Slavery reparation on 10:14 - Oct 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

It wasn’t just his language. It was his constant insinuations that Kate Middleton wasn’t really ill, she had been chased into hiding by the royal family who were trying to kill her or something, I can’t remember the details but it was bat shit crazy.


I know that was a big issue, but if you look at his last post on the thread in which he was banned it was an insult directed at me.
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Slavery reparation on 12:21 - Oct 28 with 184 viewscontroversial_jack

Slavery reparation on 01:13 - Oct 28 by Kilkennyjack

Repeat after me …… the Nightingale hospitals were an absolute waste of money as all the medical staff were super busy in the real hospitals.

There was nobody to staff them.

The rule was any patient admitted had to bring their own nurse with them, so they never got used.
£530 million wasted.

Everything Johnson touched turned to shite.
Great name though …..


It was part of the Tories scorched earth policies
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