| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 08:29 - Apr 26 with 484 views | Boundy |
When manufacturing companies stop using the current technology to produce EV's and also recycle then maybe I'll join the revolution but until then I'll keep driving what I have that way at least I'm not contributing to this
"The current shortcomings in Li battery recycling isn't the only reason they are an environmental strain. Mining the various metals needed for Li batteries requires vast resources. It takes 500,000 gallons (2,273,000 litres) of water to mine one tonne of lithium. In Chile's Atacama Salt Flats, lithium mining has been linked to declining vegetation, hotter daytime temperatures and increasing drought conditions in national reserve areas. So even though EVs may help reduce carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions over their lifetime, the battery that powers them starts its life laden with a large environmental footprint" |  |
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| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 08:46 - Apr 26 with 477 views | lifelong |
BYD looks a very promising company and COULD be well worth investing in. |  | | |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 09:10 - Apr 26 with 463 views | Boundy |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 08:46 - Apr 26 by lifelong |
BYD looks a very promising company and COULD be well worth investing in. |
BYD do a lot of work in the UK supplying and fitting out battery storage sites . | |
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| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 09:35 - Apr 26 with 443 views | Whiterockin |
I am very naive about this but what happens to the vehicle batteries when they are no longer of any use. |  | | |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 12:23 - Apr 26 with 399 views | Boundy |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 09:35 - Apr 26 by Whiterockin |
I am very naive about this but what happens to the vehicle batteries when they are no longer of any use. |
Recycled but there are risks and danger associated with the process and not always cost effective. | |
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| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 12:32 - Apr 26 with 387 views | Whiterockin |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 12:23 - Apr 26 by Boundy |
Recycled but there are risks and danger associated with the process and not always cost effective. |
Thanks, but it it environmentally friendly. The reason I'm asking is sometimes you try to solve one problem but create another. | | | |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 13:07 - Apr 26 with 370 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 08:46 - Apr 26 by lifelong |
BYD looks a very promising company and COULD be well worth investing in. |
Currently trading at £24.32 per share or 236CNY and I am wondering is it worth a 250 quid punt? | | | |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 13:50 - Apr 26 with 344 views | Boundy |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 12:32 - Apr 26 by Whiterockin |
Thanks, but it it environmentally friendly. The reason I'm asking is sometimes you try to solve one problem but create another. |
These seem to be the preferred methods, but certainly not perfect nor environmentally friendly when you consider the materials used in the processes.
"Pyrometallurgy
This process involves burning EV batteries at high temperatures to remove any unwanted plastics or organic matter, and results in only a fraction of the original material being recovered - usually just the copper, nickel or cobalt.
A common pyrometallurgical process for EV batteries is smelting, which is simple but also not very ecologically friendly as the process requires the use of pollution-causing fossil fuels.
It also causes lithium and aluminium to be lost, making it a far from ideal way to recycle electric car batteries. Research into recovering lithium through the condensation of smelter off-gas, however, is currently underway.
There is a technique that avoids fossil fuel use by taking the residual energy in the batteries, such as the organics in the electrolyte, to power the conversion process.
Hydrometallurgy
A common hydrometallurgical process for EV batteries is leaching, which is the process of soaking lithium-ion cells in strong acids to dissolve the metals into a solution.
The success rate of recovering materials, particularly lithium, is much higher using this technique, but it can be an expensive and complex process.
Up until now, mining lithium has been viewed as a cheaper and easier alternative to leaching, but it is gaining in popularity as EV use continues to grow. | |
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| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 13:57 - Apr 26 with 334 views | Whiterockin |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 13:50 - Apr 26 by Boundy |
These seem to be the preferred methods, but certainly not perfect nor environmentally friendly when you consider the materials used in the processes.
"Pyrometallurgy
This process involves burning EV batteries at high temperatures to remove any unwanted plastics or organic matter, and results in only a fraction of the original material being recovered - usually just the copper, nickel or cobalt.
A common pyrometallurgical process for EV batteries is smelting, which is simple but also not very ecologically friendly as the process requires the use of pollution-causing fossil fuels.
It also causes lithium and aluminium to be lost, making it a far from ideal way to recycle electric car batteries. Research into recovering lithium through the condensation of smelter off-gas, however, is currently underway.
There is a technique that avoids fossil fuel use by taking the residual energy in the batteries, such as the organics in the electrolyte, to power the conversion process.
Hydrometallurgy
A common hydrometallurgical process for EV batteries is leaching, which is the process of soaking lithium-ion cells in strong acids to dissolve the metals into a solution.
The success rate of recovering materials, particularly lithium, is much higher using this technique, but it can be an expensive and complex process.
Up until now, mining lithium has been viewed as a cheaper and easier alternative to leaching, but it is gaining in popularity as EV use continues to grow. |
Thanks for the detailed response. I learn so much on here. | | | |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 14:20 - Apr 26 with 317 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 09:35 - Apr 26 by Whiterockin |
I am very naive about this but what happens to the vehicle batteries when they are no longer of any use. |
What we don't see is the full environmental impact of say scrapping a small petrol car and buying a new electric one or the full lifecycle environmental impact of an electric car? |  |
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| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 18:05 - Apr 28 with 149 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 13:07 - Apr 26 by SullutaCreturned |
Currently trading at £24.32 per share or 236CNY and I am wondering is it worth a 250 quid punt? |
WEll maybe I should have taken a punt on these shares because they are now trading at £36.30 per share, around 50% more than 2 days ago. | | | |
| Sodium Ion Car Batteries in Production on 09:28 - Apr 29 with 23 views | Boundy |
The cynic in me thinks that as too many times before once the grants run out so does the business. | |
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