| Care Home Costs £££s 12:13 - Jul 23 with 1502 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
A friend has just put her parents in a care home, both have dementia. The fees for both are £15,000 a month.
She is in the process of selling her parents house. My dad paid £600,000 in fees over 11 years including selling his house. The man in the room next to him had his fees paid by the government as he had no assets.
This prompted the question of how many people sell their houses to pay for care, the Government has refused to provide these figures! But estimates are all in the region of 50,000 a year in the UK.
The average house price is about £250,000. So that is a whopping £12.5 Billion a year without taking into consideration savings and pensions used to fund care.
Next time someone says old people have too much money tied up in property.......... |  |
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| Care Home Costs £££s on 00:40 - Jul 24 with 449 views | AnotherJohn |
| Care Home Costs £££s on 14:20 - Jul 23 by onehunglow |
Good question
Nowadays we have no jobs for the less educated as modern inventions have seen billions of jobs lost
When I was 30 , it was 1980 and industry was shrinking fast
When my father was 30 it was 2954 and the effects of the war were still being felt
Working class women had lives of drudgery which kids now could not contemplate
Imagine no birth control , NHS , no indoor bathrooms , washing nappies by hand
. No benefits or assistance or handouts
Folk were old at 50
No comparison Gwyn |
It is easy to underestimate how difficult things were for young people in the late 1970s and 1980s. Around 1980 unemployment surged and there were major cuts in public expenditure. I had to leave Swansea in 1980 when the unit where I worked was closed as a result of DHSS budget cuts, and around that time there were large scale redundances in the steel industry and related industries. I remember a Swansea academic - Ralph Fevre - writing a book entitled "Wales is Closed". Things weren't really any better in my new job location - Dundee - where economic recession was also having a big impact. Heroin use by younger people in the poorer housing estates was rife - something that hadn't been quite so visible in Swansea. |  | | |
| Care Home Costs £££s on 07:59 - Jul 24 with 385 views | hectorshouse |
I actually think that it is right for people to pay for their care. My mother is 84 and will at some point in the next few years she may well need to go into a home. She will have to sell her home to pay for this. The house is where me and my brother grew up but we do not feel that we have any right to it, it is hers. If we want to keep the house we could get her to come and live with us, which neither of us want and nor does she, so we will ask a professional care home to look after her. This needs to be paid for and we see no reason why the taxpayer should pay. We have no right to inherit anything. The argument that my mother has paid taxes all her life so should keep her home is a spurious one for 2 main reasons. One she already has had back from the state way more than she paid in, state pension, children educated, bins collected, police paid for to keep law and order all her life, army paid for to protect the country, hundreds of doctors appointments over the years etc, secondly we to do not pay tax to get money back out of the system, we pay tax to be part of a society which is civilized and helps others, we are not and should not ever be all about us, when the majority of people think like this it will be the end of community and God help us all. | | | |
| Care Home Costs £££s on 08:48 - Jul 24 with 357 views | jack_lord |
| Care Home Costs £££s on 19:30 - Jul 23 by onehunglow |
Jase
This country is the very worst in Europe for its attitude towards older people and that governments of all colours see them as cannon fodder
As Zi say , a national disgrace |
Rich,
I look in admiration at how families in other parts of Europe look after their aged relatives. My wife always says that it is not the state's responsibility to look after our parents it is ours. My mum struggled with her health and we made sure she had everything she needed to be comfortable. We offered her the chance of moving in with us or the other way around but she wanted to keep some kind of independence and though it was demanding for a couple of years it kept us all close. The irony that my mum experienced was going for respite care and catching pneumonia and not being healthy enough to fight it.
Our parents guided us through infancy into adulthood and what are we if we forget that.
Modern life is a whole lot different and I don't know how we would have managed if we were living far away from her home so I can't put any yardstick on how other's care for their relatives.
How the governments deal with it is something else though - there are some things that should just be dealt with properly. |  |
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| Care Home Costs £££s on 09:13 - Jul 24 with 337 views | trampie |
| Care Home Costs £££s on 08:48 - Jul 24 by jack_lord |
Rich,
I look in admiration at how families in other parts of Europe look after their aged relatives. My wife always says that it is not the state's responsibility to look after our parents it is ours. My mum struggled with her health and we made sure she had everything she needed to be comfortable. We offered her the chance of moving in with us or the other way around but she wanted to keep some kind of independence and though it was demanding for a couple of years it kept us all close. The irony that my mum experienced was going for respite care and catching pneumonia and not being healthy enough to fight it.
Our parents guided us through infancy into adulthood and what are we if we forget that.
Modern life is a whole lot different and I don't know how we would have managed if we were living far away from her home so I can't put any yardstick on how other's care for their relatives.
How the governments deal with it is something else though - there are some things that should just be dealt with properly. |
Welsh boyos are tied to their mother's apron strings its a fact, that is why you don't have many large Welsh ex pat communities in foreign cities, they love their mammies too much.
It must be awful for Welshies that do have to move away for economic reasons to be away from Mam. |  |
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| Care Home Costs £££s on 09:40 - Jul 24 with 319 views | onehunglow |
| Care Home Costs £££s on 09:13 - Jul 24 by trampie |
Welsh boyos are tied to their mother's apron strings its a fact, that is why you don't have many large Welsh ex pat communities in foreign cities, they love their mammies too much.
It must be awful for Welshies that do have to move away for economic reasons to be away from Mam. |
Even on a serious subject like this , you are drawn back to Welshism
This is a British matter
You pay in Wales as you do in England | |
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| Care Home Costs £££s on 09:45 - Jul 24 with 315 views | onehunglow |
| Care Home Costs £££s on 08:48 - Jul 24 by jack_lord |
Rich,
I look in admiration at how families in other parts of Europe look after their aged relatives. My wife always says that it is not the state's responsibility to look after our parents it is ours. My mum struggled with her health and we made sure she had everything she needed to be comfortable. We offered her the chance of moving in with us or the other way around but she wanted to keep some kind of independence and though it was demanding for a couple of years it kept us all close. The irony that my mum experienced was going for respite care and catching pneumonia and not being healthy enough to fight it.
Our parents guided us through infancy into adulthood and what are we if we forget that.
Modern life is a whole lot different and I don't know how we would have managed if we were living far away from her home so I can't put any yardstick on how other's care for their relatives.
How the governments deal with it is something else though - there are some things that should just be dealt with properly. |
Jason
My sister looked after my mother until it became impossible to care medically
My old fella didn't last long on the home we selected as he was a monster
He went to live with my sister to him he was a complete kint
My mum always told me it was my life and not to be tied to her apron strings and to fly as high as possible
I just she'd outlived my father as she would have moved up here as she loved it here
Anyway , get on with your life
We only have the present and looking back is not healthy | |
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| Care Home Costs £££s on 10:29 - Jul 24 with 276 views | jack_lord |
We do only have the now in what we eat.
The future is unwritten but we take lessons from our past.
I do love the ancestry sites and it opens people's eyes to what they think they actually were | |
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| Care Home Costs £££s on 16:42 - Jul 24 with 204 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Care Home Costs £££s on 07:59 - Jul 24 by hectorshouse |
I actually think that it is right for people to pay for their care. My mother is 84 and will at some point in the next few years she may well need to go into a home. She will have to sell her home to pay for this. The house is where me and my brother grew up but we do not feel that we have any right to it, it is hers. If we want to keep the house we could get her to come and live with us, which neither of us want and nor does she, so we will ask a professional care home to look after her. This needs to be paid for and we see no reason why the taxpayer should pay. We have no right to inherit anything. The argument that my mother has paid taxes all her life so should keep her home is a spurious one for 2 main reasons. One she already has had back from the state way more than she paid in, state pension, children educated, bins collected, police paid for to keep law and order all her life, army paid for to protect the country, hundreds of doctors appointments over the years etc, secondly we to do not pay tax to get money back out of the system, we pay tax to be part of a society which is civilized and helps others, we are not and should not ever be all about us, when the majority of people think like this it will be the end of community and God help us all. |
The point would be that she paid taxes all her life to fund th things you listed, she didn't get them for nothing.
We work and pay our taxes to get those services and health and social care are part of that,
Saying that, back in the day we didn't palm our old relatives off on others. When I was 16 a great Aunt who had dementia came to live with us and we looked after her until her death. In a civilised society surely we look after our elderly, we don't abandon them unless they have medical needs we absolutely cannot deal with? | | | |
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| Care Home Costs £££s on 20:36 - Jul 24 with 140 views | jack_lord |
| Care Home Costs £££s on 16:42 - Jul 24 by SullutaCreturned |
The point would be that she paid taxes all her life to fund th things you listed, she didn't get them for nothing.
We work and pay our taxes to get those services and health and social care are part of that,
Saying that, back in the day we didn't palm our old relatives off on others. When I was 16 a great Aunt who had dementia came to live with us and we looked after her until her death. In a civilised society surely we look after our elderly, we don't abandon them unless they have medical needs we absolutely cannot deal with? |
We should look after them but the points above are showing that is not the case.
"Civilisation" in this country is letting those who need it most down. | |
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