| Probity in government - optics still not great on 19:45 - Aug 6 with 482 views | Dr_Winston |
I think I'm more concerned about the crass stupidity of it.
We have a minister who has previously been publically quoted being critical about profiteering landlords too dense to understand that booting her tenants out to jack the rent up just might become public knowledge.
We really need to vastly increase the qualifications required to become an MP, and I will reiterate the need to pay them more in the process otherwise you're never going to attract people of the standard needed to turn things around. [Post edited 6 Aug 19:46]
|  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
|  |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 21:09 - Aug 6 with 438 views | Boundy |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 19:45 - Aug 6 by Dr_Winston |
I think I'm more concerned about the crass stupidity of it.
We have a minister who has previously been publically quoted being critical about profiteering landlords too dense to understand that booting her tenants out to jack the rent up just might become public knowledge.
We really need to vastly increase the qualifications required to become an MP, and I will reiterate the need to pay them more in the process otherwise you're never going to attract people of the standard needed to turn things around. [Post edited 6 Aug 19:46]
|
Frightening thought that it may be but it could be the case that what we now class as politicians is the cream of the crop . University educated thickos all rise. |  |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
| |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 21:29 - Aug 6 with 421 views | Dr_Winston |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 21:09 - Aug 6 by Boundy |
Frightening thought that it may be but it could be the case that what we now class as politicians is the cream of the crop . University educated thickos all rise. |
These days, very few of "The Cream of the Crop" go into politics because they can earn a shitload more elsewhere. You may get a few who have earned their pile in other fields moving towards it. You may get a couple who reckon that they can keep their side gigs going whilst serving as an MP. For the most part however it seems to be career politicians.
Get a degree at a half decent University. Do some grunt work/researching for a party. Fight a couple of losing elections before being groomed for a decent seat. It's basically a career. An increasing number have never worked a proper job and have no idea how the real world functions.
I'd raise the minimum age to be an MP to 40, with a requirement to have worked for at least ten years in the private sector, barring some key Govt professions such as medicine and the military. Double the pay but halve the numbers.
In fact, Government pay in general needs to be seriously looked at. It's trying to make inroads in areas such as AI and offering people £60k salaries when Meta is offering tens of millions a year to the very best. As a nation we have to be prepared to consider the possibility that top talent is expensive. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
| |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 22:04 - Aug 6 with 380 views | Luther27 |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 19:45 - Aug 6 by Dr_Winston |
I think I'm more concerned about the crass stupidity of it.
We have a minister who has previously been publically quoted being critical about profiteering landlords too dense to understand that booting her tenants out to jack the rent up just might become public knowledge.
We really need to vastly increase the qualifications required to become an MP, and I will reiterate the need to pay them more in the process otherwise you're never going to attract people of the standard needed to turn things around. [Post edited 6 Aug 19:46]
|
It’s not stupidity, it’s arrogance. | | | |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 17:15 - Aug 7 with 259 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 19:45 - Aug 6 by Dr_Winston |
I think I'm more concerned about the crass stupidity of it.
We have a minister who has previously been publically quoted being critical about profiteering landlords too dense to understand that booting her tenants out to jack the rent up just might become public knowledge.
We really need to vastly increase the qualifications required to become an MP, and I will reiterate the need to pay them more in the process otherwise you're never going to attract people of the standard needed to turn things around. [Post edited 6 Aug 19:46]
|
I take your points and don't totally disagree but there is one thing, you don't need to have great qualifucations to have common sense and be honest. To me that is a big marker, so mnay people go into politics because they think they can get away with all this greedy, self serving stiff but they are increasingly being caught and outed.
Is honesty and common sense to much to ask for, clearly it is. | | | |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 18:24 - Aug 7 with 231 views | majorraglan |
The I is published by the Daily Mail Group, so we should be cautious as there may have been a political spin put on the story. IF the facts are as they have been portrayed then while she hasn’t done anything illegal, it doesn’t look good.
The house is currently up for sale for just short of £900k, if she gets that according to The I she’ll pick up around £300 k more than she paid for it - I’d hope some serious CGT would be due for the exchequer. [Post edited 7 Aug 18:27]
| | | |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 18:25 - Aug 7 with 224 views | Dr_Winston |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 17:15 - Aug 7 by SullutaCreturned |
I take your points and don't totally disagree but there is one thing, you don't need to have great qualifucations to have common sense and be honest. To me that is a big marker, so mnay people go into politics because they think they can get away with all this greedy, self serving stiff but they are increasingly being caught and outed.
Is honesty and common sense to much to ask for, clearly it is. |
Sorry, should clarify. I don't necessarily mean qualifications in terms of academic ones. Life experience and achievements also come into it as far as I'm concerned. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
| |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 18:50 - Aug 7 with 194 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
I see Ms Ali has issued an account of events which varies from that of the previous tenant. |  |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 20:39 - Aug 7 with 150 views | majorraglan |
Gone. | | | |
| Probity in government - optics still not great on 22:24 - Aug 7 with 123 views | AnotherJohn |
Just picking up one point from the thread, I would not have said that the buy-out and split of the i from the Indy after the latter went digital meant it moved visibly to the Right. Yes, it is owned by the Daily Mail group, but Wiki says: "In the 2017, 2019 and 2024 UK general elections, the i continued to refuse endorsing any political parties to maintain political neutrality. Explaining the paper's continued neutrality in 2024, Duff said the i was the only national paper to "never" support a political party and added that it "never will", stating that it gives "no one […] an easy ride. Not the Tories, Labour or Nigel Farage."
That is pretty much in line with my impression. | | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
