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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR 16:08 - Mar 1 with 4363 viewsmadjules

I've been trying to work out what is wrong with QPR
How can we be one of the few teams that need players right in front of the central defence or we get ripped apart (Liverpool at home)
How can we go through 3 transfer windows spending huge amount and buy loads of players only to get to the 4th window and Harry declares he needs 3 or 4 players (And Norwich don't have anything like this problem)
How can players like Routledge and Puncheon look amazing in their teams but look awful in ours, similarly how can we turn someone who played for Real Madrid into someone who looks Championship material at the moment
It just can't be about the Players (even if we do still lack strikers)

I think some obvious things are starting to show, the half time Sky analysis of Norwich at home, overwhelmingly saying where are the QPR players, the ball comes into the box and it's 1 against 4.
Then again the Match of the Day Man Utd analysis showing Adel time and time again giving the ball and not moving forward, not driving into space.
No penetration, no runners into the box, Faurlin and Granero aren't particularly those players, Adel wants to stay outside and curl it into the top corner, we buy Jenas, possibly can arrive late but now too old to have the pace to do it effectively.
We see Lampard do it, Brunt and Morrison can do it, even Gomez showed a masterclass of it in one match, a hat trick for Wigan against Reading.
Over the last 3 games Townsend seems to be the only spark we have, against Man Utd he had 1 player in the box to aim for, how about Zamora, Remy, one runner from central Midfielder and the also the opposing Winger coming in at the far post, someone might pick up the second ball even!
Ah yes, but our fragile team will be counter attacked you say. Haven't we got the discipline to cope with that, the wing backs pushing up, the other central holding midfielder, the colussus that is Samba and perhaps even when we run into the box it will drag their team back into their own box negating the threat of the counter.
Just a thought on why it is going so horribly wrong or shall we just continue to be bottom of the 20 teams on the FFStat page at 2 shots on goal per game, get the odd 0-0 against a top side and slide into the Championship.
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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 20:14 - Mar 1 with 704 viewsbaz_qpr

two things

1. Strikers - Its the difference between success and failure in football

2. Too many players on the way down in their careers or the wrong side of 28, which is fine in the championship or if you are man utd with loads of £50m players however for us it means we lack the required pace and stamina for this league and it also badly effect spirit in that you've got a number of players who will never be as good as they were, they dont strive to be better, and when they are not in the team they cannot understand why and are disruptive to the spirit of the group.

The last 3 managers are all responsible for this particularly (sad to say it ) Warnock
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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 20:21 - Mar 1 with 696 viewsSomersetHoops

We have nobody in the team with any long term history with QPR.

Forgetting the Briatore shambles which did untold damage, untill Amit started to run the club for most of the promotion season.

Warnock got in some good battlers for the championship and they are 3 years older, many at the wrong end of their careers to be as good as they were then. They are still better in many cases than anything that has been brought in since.

The rot started when Warnock said immediately after the takeover, that the season started after that January transfer window when he could get some quality players in. That demoralised the existing players who still had two games to play and were being replaced by panic bought dregs left looking for clubs to give them a big payday. Most of these players, bought on reputation rather than ability proved to be no better than those we had already.

Barton in particular caused aggravation in the team, bullying Adel and anyone else he thought was a threat. Eventually Barton got himself sent off in key games and effectively got Warnock sacked and was heard abusing Warnock after being rightly admonished for contributing to losses where he had red cards. Warnock only had himself to blame for this as he should never have brought Barton to QPR as in my view he is not the kind of player we should ever have at our club.

To this already disrupted dressing room in comes Mark Hughes and another batch of past-it overvalued, overrated, overpriced, prima-donnas to be dumped at QPR. Not surprisingly this didn't work and belatedley Hughes started to resort to the previously rejected old guard. This team with its backbone of warriors in the autumn of their careers started to carve out the results that made survival possible. Barton continued to disrupt the team and in the last game of the season put our survival further at risk by getting himself needlessly sent off, meaning we relied on results elsewhere to enexpectedly remain in the Premiership.

Although I initially thought Hughes would be a good choice, in my view he should have gone before the summer as his purchases and playing formations and so called 'meticulous preparation' obviously didn't work at QPR. The owners were convinced by Hughes' bullsh*t and he brought in another lot of overated pre-injured past it donkeys who with the exception of the second expensive goalkeeping purchase added very little to performances but loads to his agent mate's wallet. It got to the point that I started to think Hughes had something very bad over Tony Fernandes as there could be no other reason, bearing in mind the apparent incompetence, apart from his ridiculous contract that kept him at the club.

Anyway at last Tony saw the light and got rid, so in comes Harry. Harry had nothing to lose as we were looking like a club destined for relegation by the damage done by Hughes. Harry tightened things up and got some good initial results, but goalscoring looked a problem and the man of the match performance by one of the few oustanding incoming old stagers Ryan Nelson were to be no more. So a good centre-back and a striker were required. Despite saying that if things didn't look good for QPR to stay in the Premiership Harry didn't want to spend the chairman's money, we seemed to cast around for the most expensive options in both categories. Depite Samba being unfit and Remy being highly strung emotionally and physically, these expensive options were what we went for plus the usual collection of a couple of past-it players to make the numbers up. In the meantime we ejected DJ Campbell who was scoring well for Ipswich while on loan and had been a good scorer in the premiership with Blackpool only a couple of seasons ago. Nobody will understand why, but this has the style of Briatore and Blackstock about it.

This shambles continues and I can only think we need to get relegated and replace almost the whole team and start again from scratch to put it right.

Who's Next?

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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 20:50 - Mar 1 with 681 viewspaulparker

What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 16:36 - Mar 1 by ShotKneesHoop

Shyte team, shyte management, shyte seats, shyte toilets, teas and pies, shyte shirts and badge, shyte rip off of pricing of fans at every opportunity.

Ocean Billy's, White Horse, Loft For Words, memories of the good old days, and the easiest access to and from any football ground this side of Antarctica balance it all up to being worth hanging in there, hoping we make a decent fist of the Championship next year.


+1
but ocean billys

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 20:53 - Mar 1 with 675 viewsShotKneesHoop

What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 20:05 - Mar 1 by TGRRRSSS

Fail to Prepare and prepare to fail is apt for us, but I think its more than that we've had so many poisonous people within our club for so many years who've had done notjhing but ultimately ill for the club. Even Fernandes may prove ultimately to be the biggest disaster of all, so far he's shown he doesn't know how to run a football club - putting money in doesn't in itself address the issues, he's tried to run before he can walk and made ridiculous decisions both himself and others for him - worse I'm not totally sure he understands the mistakes he's made as he suggested when saying he only fired Hughes because he felt Harry would do a better job which in my view overall he has, signings might be questionable but ask youreself this in terms of Premiership quality players who do you think was most likely to come to Rangers?
Joe Cole, Peter Crouch both tried to sign both turned us down - or at least seemed to.


Spot on analysis, TGRSSSS and Somerset Hoops.

Especially the comment about Fernandes. Having him acquiring QPR is the same as giving a playful child the key to the nuclear option. Too much power given to the Asian version of King Canute, who has yet to learn which way is up, and that signing Koreans to sell expensive hooped shirts is not the answer.

If this thread agrees that this year, the best thing about supporting QPR is the local pubs before and after the game, then it shows just how much he has lost the plot.

The owners in the last 10 years should carry the can. As per bloody normal though, we, the fans will.

Very sad post, but spot on, TGRSSSS and Somerset Hoops.
[Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]

Why does it feel like R'SWiPe is still on the books? Yer Couldn't Make It Up.Well Done Me!

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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 20:59 - Mar 1 with 668 viewsShotKneesHoop

What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 20:50 - Mar 1 by paulparker

+1
but ocean billys


The fact that Ocean Billys is on the list of positives shows just how shyte this year has been.

Why does it feel like R'SWiPe is still on the books? Yer Couldn't Make It Up.Well Done Me!

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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 22:03 - Mar 1 with 647 viewsWindsorHoopMan

We got rid of warnock that's what is wrong. Under him, it was the first time in years that we played good attractive passing football. Just think of a time in the last 20 that we have played better football. The players loved him, so did the fans and he gave us something that no manager has for years. . A title/cup , call it what you want
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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 23:31 - Mar 1 with 626 viewsaustinqpr

The article just published online by the mirror might explain some things (if true). On my phone so cant link.
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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 10:19 - Mar 2 with 603 viewsTGRRRSSS

What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 20:53 - Mar 1 by ShotKneesHoop

Spot on analysis, TGRSSSS and Somerset Hoops.

Especially the comment about Fernandes. Having him acquiring QPR is the same as giving a playful child the key to the nuclear option. Too much power given to the Asian version of King Canute, who has yet to learn which way is up, and that signing Koreans to sell expensive hooped shirts is not the answer.

If this thread agrees that this year, the best thing about supporting QPR is the local pubs before and after the game, then it shows just how much he has lost the plot.

The owners in the last 10 years should carry the can. As per bloody normal though, we, the fans will.

Very sad post, but spot on, TGRSSSS and Somerset Hoops.
[Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]


Cheers mate I thought it was one of my better posts actually more coherent and only one typo
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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 10:23 - Mar 2 with 598 viewsShotKneesHoop

Are we trying to emulate the Scum, Tony?

This club is getting more like a story board for Eastenders every minute.

Embarrassing.

I'm not looking forward to visiting Villa Park where our future will be decided with a whimper and a 0 - 3 loss.

But then again, a fresh start is essential.

Why does it feel like R'SWiPe is still on the books? Yer Couldn't Make It Up.Well Done Me!

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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 10:25 - Mar 2 with 598 viewsTGRRRSSS

Agreed but very few of the current squad will be wanted elsewhere and others won't be in a hurry to leave on those salaries.
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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 10:30 - Mar 2 with 592 viewsCHUBBS

What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 10:23 - Mar 2 by ShotKneesHoop

Are we trying to emulate the Scum, Tony?

This club is getting more like a story board for Eastenders every minute.

Embarrassing.

I'm not looking forward to visiting Villa Park where our future will be decided with a whimper and a 0 - 3 loss.

But then again, a fresh start is essential.


Emulate the scum?
Well we're not doing a very good job!
They are one of the worlds most successful football teams of the last decade.
We are pound for pound the most unsuccessful team in the history of the English game!
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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 10:31 - Mar 2 with 590 viewsTGRRRSSS

Say what you like about Terry, Lampard, COle etc but when they pull on a Chelsea shirt they do at least take a pride in it, put a shift in and work for each other. While there's no doubt the place is a snake pit in many ways they do at least want to do well and win things.
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What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 13:25 - Mar 2 with 562 viewsmygeneration

What's fundamentally wrong with QPR on 10:31 - Mar 2 by TGRRRSSS

Say what you like about Terry, Lampard, COle etc but when they pull on a Chelsea shirt they do at least take a pride in it, put a shift in and work for each other. While there's no doubt the place is a snake pit in many ways they do at least want to do well and win things.


Get team spirit right and a squad will box above its weight.

From the point this club got promoted it has tried to obtain success in the prem by waving a cheque book and buying 'names' . On paper a team consisting of the likes of SWP, Zamora, Ceasar, Park etc should be edging to the top of the table not drowning at the bottom.

But far from building on the buzz from being promoted, there has been a failure to build any sense of unity and commitment.
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