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Reply | PL clubs to vote on VAR
at 13:10 16 May 2024
The 'level is onside' rules came in in 1990.
I cannot remember anyone arguing that it was impossible to tell whether two players were 'level' before VAR.
Neither can I remember any real controversies about whether or not a particular player was 'level'. The controversies were about linesmen missing players who were a good distance offside.
So the 'level is offside' works as a rule UNLESS YOU DRAW LINES ON A SCREEN AND START MEASURING TOES - neither of which has f*ck all to do with football.
The 1990 change worked and gave the benefit of the doubt to the attacker. It works in every non-VAR game worldwide. The problem is not the 'level is onside' rule.
I agree that under the VAR system it is almost impossible to be level. This is precisely the problem. VAR has EFFECTIVELY changed the rules.
The fault is with the people who designed the system (the second I saw this line drawing nonsense, I knew that it would be disastrous) and with those who were faced, very early on, with a barrage of stupid offsides on the basis of toes etc, and who did not step in to change the way VAR was operating immediately. |
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Reply | PL clubs to vote on VAR
at 10:10 16 May 2024
You're right that we tend to follow the rules more than some (although in my experience the Dutch are even more sticklers than we are).
But I think there's a slightly different thing that's happened here to do with policing and power.
Basically, if you give people power to do anything they are going to use it. They can't help themselves. So it's impossible for a VAR official to say 'that's nothing to do with me'/'that's not the sort of glaring error I was designed for'. And because there is no referral system to the VAR officials, they just introduce themselves into the mix whenever they fancy, which has been all the f*cking time.
Likewise, give them a system that can measure toenails and they are going to use it to measure toenails, even if nobody in planet football ever imagined in a million years that this nonsense is what they would be doing.
These things were obvious from day one. The whole system was designed by complete morons.
And the footballing authorities have been utter cowards for allowing the VAR abuse of football to continue for as long as it has. |
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Reply | PL clubs to vote on VAR
at 08:31 16 May 2024
Offside positions are factual but a rule which says that level is onside should not, on any sensible view, be judged by where someone's toenail is. And the only time it is is when VAR is involved - there is something fundamentally wrong about that.
So I don't want any system, automated or semi-automated, which continues that complete nonsense. |
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Reply | PL clubs to vote on VAR
at 23:37 15 May 2024
The tide has certainly turned against VAR but I'm not sure yet that the Premier League has got the collective wit to bin it.
I hope they do. It's been a complete disaster for football. It could have been something which really improved the game, ruling out the most blatant of errors (and just that) but instead it's ruined the spectacle and excitement of every single game and it's generated a whole new category of its own errors. Comical really.
The basic mistake was inexcusable. They simply didn't think it through. They then never had the balls to admit their mistake. |
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Reply | Broja
at 11:18 8 May 2024
He is excellent in training. A natural winger. |
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Reply | Any objections these days if St Mary’s Stadium had a Sponsor ?
at 11:15 8 May 2024
I take the point about the money but in terms of 'tradition', stadium names are (or were) a big part of it.
And maybe with so many new stadiums popping up, the old names disappear anyway - but I'd still hope that a St Mary's name change would be resisted.
Cardiff fans rightly kicked off when the owner tried to change the colour.
I'm not sure that fans would put up with a team name change ( 'Axa Soton Dolphins' anyone?)
I'd like to see the stadium name protected too.
The game - particularly at Premier League/VAR level seems to be seriously losing the plot on many many fronts.
Time for a 'back to basics' reset. |
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Reply | Any objections these days if St Mary’s Stadium had a Sponsor ?
at 09:29 8 May 2024
They should leave the name alone.
If they can't make money from other sources, they should try harder.
Where does it stop?
The 'bet fair kick off'
Another 'screwfix throw in'
And our 'Southampton Boat Show Goalkeeper' today is...
B0ll0x to all of it. |
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Reply | I've tried, but I can't accept it
at 15:09 7 May 2024
I guess sometimes someone in a managerial position has a duty to talk thing up/put the most positive spin on things.
He's good at this. The way he slapped down criticism of Bazuna early in the season sent out a confident message and surely didn't do Bazuna or the team any harm, even if the reality about Bazuna (as Dirk will tell us) is very different. |
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Reply | The case for sticking with Russell Martin
at 19:13 30 Apr 2024
Its not the tippy-tappy per se. It the fact that we struggle to switch from that to a much more aggressively defensive or attacking style when needed.
A bit like spin bowling. Lovely when it works but not when it's being smashed all over the park. |
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Reply | Southampton At Leicester The Debacle
at 08:03 24 Apr 2024
‚amazing build-up‘ is exactly what we didn’t do
What a stupid thing for him to say. Was he also impressed by McCArthy‘s amazing saves and Adams‘ amazing shots? |
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Reply | Manchester United given a helping hand to the final, now there’s a surprise.
at 18:28 23 Apr 2024
It's worse than this.
As soon as you start drawing lines it's pretty much impossible for any two players to be 'level' (except in the almost impossible situation that their furthest forward body parts are exactly (to the centimetre) in line.
There is always going to be one of them that has some part slightly in front of the other other.
Whether two players, of different heights and sizes and with different sized feet are 'level' can only every be determined by the naked eye and with common sense.
VAR has changed the rules by effectivey removing the 'level is onside' rule.
And the irony is that that rule was deliberately introduced to make the game better - which is did - and this change has occured by accident becasue of the moronic design of the VAR offside system. |
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Reply | Manchester United given a helping hand to the final, now there’s a surprise.
at 10:35 23 Apr 2024
"A player is not in an offside position if level with the:
second-last opponent or last two opponents"
The 'players' were level. In every football game on earth without VAR and for every competent official with a perfect view, they were level.
It has been happening since the beginning of VAR. Attacking players in a VAR game cannot get the benefit of this rule because VAR does not ask whether the players are level (as happens in every other game). It simply measures body parts. VAR changes the rule and the game - and definitely for the worse AND nobody ever asked for this !! |
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Reply | Nothing Says More That Youre A C**t
at 18:46 12 Apr 2024
Re your final para...
It's not such a silly idea. Most of these warren dwellers do tend to believe in things which, broadly speaking and taken together, tend to cast doubt on the superiority of western democracies over more authoritarian ones and of a green agenda over a fossil fuel one.
They thus end up inadvertently lining up alongside despots like Putin and the Oil industry. And it doesn't take much knowledge of Russian bot factories to understand whose strings are being pulled and by whom. |
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Reply | kwp 'goal'
at 14:29 10 Apr 2024
When you say 'deflects off'....looked like he elbowed it in to me.
Still, b0ll0cks to VAR and we were in line for a bit of luck. |
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Reply | Southampton V Coventry City The Verdict
at 12:52 9 Apr 2024
We've not picked a good time to play them, with the form of both team going in opposite directions, and Coventry with it all to play for trying to stay in touch with Norwich and with Simms and Wright hitting form too. |
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