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From time to time you do say some interesting things.
But when anyone disagrees with you it's the following:
- Try to look intellectually superior
- Belittle or demean the other poster's intelligence
- Accuse the other poster of having authoritarian views
- Try to reframe the argument to suggest you meant something else all along
- Resort to gaslighting
- Play the victim when you get a bit of chirp back
Now I'm not going to claim to be perfect.
I have certainly been guilty of poor forum etiquette at times either derailing threads or dragging out arguments to the point where I must seem like a tedious pain in the rear end.
But I try to learn from my mistakes and adapt my behaviour to suit the overall ambience of this forum.
Why don't you try doing the same?
You might get a lot more respect that way.
Now I have certainly dragged this one out too far, so it's going to be my last reply to you on this thread.
Having taken a quick glance at the plan it seems to also include the Broadway Centre in the proposed redevelopment:
"Hammersmith Flyover, A4 and adjoining land (HRA3) - to include A4 land running from Colet Gardens in the east to the Cromwell avenue underpass in the west. Includes the Hammersmith Gyratory, the Broadway Centre, the area south of Black’s Road to Hammersmith Bridge Road, the British Transport Police Station and adjacent land to the east on Talgarth Road, the Ark and West London Magistrates Court. "
I think the young Jimmy Greaves did have a fair bit of pace.
Not so sure about Law.
Greaves had 44 goals in 57 international appearances.
Law had 30 goals in 55 internationals.
Clive Allen never scored for England.
The point I was making about Allen was that he was a good player in his day but the game has changed and he wouldn't be signed by one of the big clubs that pay big money in the modern game.
And looking back Allen never won the league and never played for the biggest clubs in his era.
Greaves and Law did.
So I'm sticking to my guns on this. And don't get me wrong I do like Allen, but he would never have been a £100m+ striker.
Allen and Goddard had spent years developing a relationship in the reserves. They had also just dropped down to the second tier when they tore the league up in 79/80.
Kone and Burrell have just been thrown together and spent last season playing in the third tier.
Kone and Burrell look great and I hope for great things, but I think it's asking a bit much expecting them to have the same impact as Allen and Goddard.
Let them find their own way and hopefully make their own history.
MND (or ALS) seems to be a growing problem for former sports professionals.
In Italy retired footballers have an incidence of ALS six times the national average. And the condition is starting in the mid-forties for former footballers as opposed to mid-sixties for the general population.
There has been a lot of speculation around what is behind this with questions around doping practices of the Italian clubs.
The clubs obviously didn't like accusations of doping and came up with the fertiliser used on pitches as an alternative explanation.
On the flipside the rest of the country would be calling us Welsh and backpacking Australians would be queueing up at our door thinking we were the New New South Wales.
It would be like Earls Court all over again only with better beer.
IIRC Helguson was loaned out to Watford for his second season and no one was sorry to see him go.
Helguson did so well at Watford that they wanted to keep him at the end of the season and Neil Warnock was happy to let them have him provided Danny Graham came over to us.
Barnsley had that crazy Covid season in 2020/21 when five subs were introduced and Valerian Ismael had the three forwards charging around like blue-arsed flies for an hour before subbing them all on sixty minutes and throwing on three more Duracell bunnies to charge around and chase everything down.
Facing that as the third game in a three game week can't have been much fun!
Barnsley won 23 games that season and finished in the playoffs
Rory Smith in his Expected Goals book talks about Charles Reep and the way his ideas have been misrepresented but he doesn't go into the same detail as that article.
At the bottom of that article it mentions that the author Rob Haywood was working on his own book about the evolution of football data.
I couldn't find the book on Amazon so maybe it never got published but there is a website to accompany it:
You have to wonder how some of these football insider rumours get started.
I remember a tale about a very young Cesc Fabregas growing up in a remote part of Catalonia but being such a standout talent that even the mighty Barcelona got to hear about it and sent out a scout to give him the once over.
The coach of CF's team got wind of this but didn't want to lose his star player so for the game where he knew the scout was watching he played CF out of position so that he would look like nothing special and get overlooked.
The coach basically wanted to hang on to his star player for another year and was banking on CF being so good that Barcelona would give him another chance a year later.
So getting back to Sadio Mane. Perhaps it was the Saints coaches putting it about he was a wrong un simply because they wanted to keep hold of him for a bit longer!
Although he's not afraid to use fifty words where ten will do!
Smith talks a lot about Chris Anderson. He was Professor of Government at Cornell but became so convinced data could change football he tried to buy a club to prove his theories. That proved to be out of his price range but he did have a tough stint as Coventry CEO along the way. He also has a book on the subject:
I think it's a very crude proxy which takes no account of the quality of the players involved and merely reflects the position on the pitch from where shots are taken and the probability of that shot going in.
But I'm open minded on the subject and happy to learn.
If you think I've got it wrong then please explain.
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