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Reply | Happy anniversary
at 04:08 24 Oct 2025
I think there are still a few who are taken in by his manipulative personality and look on him as a victim, somebody who was misunderstood and a victim of circumstances. I mentioned his guilty plea again to highlight that he did actually admit his guilt, he didn't deny it. You are right about the guilty plea being advised in order to land a softer outcome. That's also a regular occurence for criminal cases that are heard at Crown Court level. Criminal cases are escalated to Crown Court level because they are deemed too serious to be heard in a Magistrates Court. No case that ends up at Crown Court is a minor issue or a oversight. [Post edited 24 Oct 13:11]
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Reply | Happy anniversary
at 13:44 21 Oct 2025
It certainly should...all in the public domain. Court proceedings and matters of misconduct etc often are for public consumption and local journalists and media outlets report on them all the time. It's never been any different. The Rochdale Observer and Manchester Evening News used to have a journalist in attendance at local Magistrates and the Crown Courts on a daily basis and publish the details in their newspapers, they still do. The cases heard at Crown Court are deemed the most serious cases and as a result they are often reported on in the larger newspaper publications such as the MEN. [Post edited 21 Oct 13:58]
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Reply | More great work by the Ogden Trust
at 13:38 21 Oct 2025
A great shout that D Alien. A family that hasn't turned it's back on it's grass roots. Instead they've stepped forward when not only the football club was on it's knees but also the Town of Rochdale...their kindness will never be forgotten or taken for granted neither. I was fortunate to meet the Ogden family once very briefly up at the club, Sir Peter and his wife, his children and his grandchildren, all have them are salt of the earth people and very grounded..'one of us' and that's the best compliment i can give them. It's their club and it's their Town. [Post edited 21 Oct 13:42]
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Reply | Happy anniversary
at 10:10 21 Oct 2025
There are still some who are daft enough to think he did nothing wrong, some of those still flounce around the club trying to curry favour with the new regime. It's what they do. Individuals who were nowhere to be seen when the club needed saving by the likes of Simon Gauge and the new Directors/Fans/Trust/ the mob and the so called toxic five. They would do well to speak to Simon Gauge and the other Directors who had to come in and pick up the pieces following Bottomleys time at the club and also fight off Morton House, individuals who he was quite happy to see take over the club he purported to love. I think the club is still trying to recover from the mismanagement during that era. I'm going to give him credit though for holding up his hands and pleading guilty to the above charges, when somebody does that they admit that what they did was wrong.
It wasn't just Bottomley though, the other Directors were as bad, they just left him to get on with things and run the ship single handedly and they all originally wanted to sell their shares to MH. Bottomley's painted out as the bad guy but in my eyes the lot of them were to blame. It's covenient for those serving on the board at the time to now heap all the blame on David Bottomley, the reality is they were all p*ssing in the same pot and some of the story's that have emerged about how they conducted themselves away from the football side are a disgrace. Horrible people who deserve zero respect. Thank god we now have people of good morals in charge of the club. [Post edited 21 Oct 10:36]
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Reply | TVOS Preview - Rochdale v Yeovil Town
at 09:47 20 Oct 2025
That straight pass from the central defender to Gilmour on the edge of the box is the one that's been our undoing numerous times over the past couple of seasons. Invariably Gilmour has two forwards on his back and the slightest miss control or bobble leaves the forwards with a clear shot on goal. It seems like high risk for very little reward because Gilmour's only option is to pass it to one of the wide defenders, the goalkeeper could do that. A bit different if Gilmour is on the half turn and not being pressed. Mani is experienced enough to not raise his arms, he was daft for giving the referee a decision to make. It was petulant and he's picked up another unnecessary booking [Post edited 20 Oct 9:50]
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Reply | TVOS Preview - Rochdale v Yeovil Town
at 19:11 18 Oct 2025
Excellent performance again today. If the players can keep their hunger levels high and don't let complacency creep in against percieved lesser opposition we are going to take some stopping. It was noticeable that the moment we suddenly shift up the tempo of our passing and movement the opposition can't live with us. We look a different team when we inject a bit of pace into how we play. Another positive is Ryan East, he's a different player in a more forward role and is now adding goals to his game. Gordon was also back to his best today. Smiths cameo was interesting, his movement was very good but he still looks a yard short on fitness, get him match fit and he could prove a very good signing, he was unlucky not to score. |
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Reply | Trust AGM?
at 20:17 17 Oct 2025
The Trust being given the responsibilty for the Golden Share sounds like a nice idea but that could only happen if the Ogden family could trust the Trust. Can they always trust the individuals on the Trust? Individuals who will be replaced with persons unknown further down the line. Who polices the Trust board members and is there any background checks done on individuals who put themselves forward for influential positions? Positions that give individuals access to members personal details, some of those members will be classed as vulnerable for a multitude of reasons. Positions that give individuals access to finances also. History shows that persons with bad intentions do gravitate towards football clubs, we've witnessed that first hand over the last few years and so have plenty of other clubs. What safeguarding measures does the Trust implement to ensure those in trusted positions are 'clean skins'? I would suggest they don't do anything, no CRB (DBS) checks etc. Flag up a credible safeguarding concern and you're treated like the enemy. So no, i would urge the Ogdens to have a good think about the Golden Share issue, especially now they have forged links with the council and football in the community etc. The Golden Share needs to be watertight when it comes to securing the future of the club, i'm sure the Ogdens will employ the best legal brains to ensure that happens and make the best decision for the club and the Town. [Post edited 17 Oct 20:24]
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Reply | Oliver Whatmuff
at 17:15 15 Oct 2025
Does anybody know why our back up keeper didn't play against York, is he injured? |
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Reply | FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread
at 09:56 13 Oct 2025
Apparently a group of York fans were turned around in the Town centre before the game and put back on the train to York. I don't think there was any trouble up at the ground, the Dale and York fans seemed well behaved. Football fans have been singing obscenities since our grandparents day, it goes with the territory unfortunately. The ones who refer to Rochdale as aTown full of paedos know that isn't really the case, they're trying to wind up the oppositiion fans. Don't take it too serious. Not sure how you think you could stop three or four hundred people chanting anything about paedos if thats what they wanted to do.
The grooming gangs have given the Town a bad name, the chants are a reflection of that. Dale fans refer to Oldham fans as BIFFOS, it's all tongue in cheek, i once met a Oldham fan who was vertically challenged and wasnt at all ignorant. It's a football match, sometimes stuff happens that isn't right, a reflection of life really.. good and bad. The club have enough to do, they can't be responsible for what the away supporters chant in respect of the Town and paedo's. The stewards and police would be pretty powerless also. If that's how those singing perceive the Town to be then that's their perogative. [Post edited 13 Oct 10:32]
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Reply | FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread
at 12:26 12 Oct 2025
It was more or less our first team so perhaps most of us expected a bit more. Having said that, the Yeovil home game next Saturday was always more important i think, well it is to me this season when you look at the league table. Maybe subconsciously the players also felt the same way, a bit of catch 22 for everybody. I'm expecting us to come out of the blocks against Yeovil, they're in the doldrums at the moment. Use yrsterdays game as a learning curve for when we next meet up with York. [Post edited 12 Oct 12:28]
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Reply | FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread
at 10:52 12 Oct 2025
Agree, sometimes we do have to give the opposition credit. They were fit and pressed us on the ball throughout the game. Are we capable of playing at that intensity for the full duration, especially against the better teams? Some players obviously aren't without naming names. I think overall fitness levels of the squad has a massive bearing at this level and dictate your style of play. Barnet were relentless last season and York are similar. I watched Smith when he came on yesterday and he looked laboured in respect to those around him, he's obviously not mstch fit yet. [Post edited 12 Oct 10:56]
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Reply | FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread
at 10:12 12 Oct 2025
A different game at FGR i think. As the home team they tried to play on the front foot and nearly scored in the first minute. They also totted up about a dozen corners during the game. We did control the game though i thought and as it wore on we opened them up and should have scored a few more. Apart from a good 15 minute spell we didn't put them under real pressure yesterday and in the first half their keeper had nothing to do. I don't have a problem with shithousery, it's part of tgr game. What bugs me is when Dale fans complain about it as though we don't do it ourselves. Blaming the referee is another classic also, it's always the refs fault. Yesterday wasn't the best version of ourselves, if it was what McNulty suggested a tactical encounter, then he came off second best. [Post edited 12 Oct 10:22]
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Reply | FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread
at 09:24 12 Oct 2025
McNulty's summary of the game in relation to Yorks managers is very different. York's manager thought they controlled the game for most of it, carried more threat and should have been two goals up at half time. I agree with him. [Post edited 12 Oct 9:24]
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Reply | The National League Lowdown.
at 08:23 12 Oct 2025
We were discussing in the bar pre-match..Mani D, Rodney, Bird would be a dream ticket up front if the Ogden family could make it happen. Bird was yet again a unused sub in Salfords defeat yesterday. |
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Reply | FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread
at 06:15 12 Oct 2025
I think the manager and his coaches got too wrapped up in trying to nullify York's strengths rather than imposing ours on them. We are the home team and top of the league on merit after recently disposing of Carlisle and FGR. Overthinking the game and trying to turn it into a tactical game of chess when it wasn"t needed, he enjoys doing that but it's as dull as dishwater to watch..and we normally lose when we play that way at a slow tempo. Then when we started having a go at them in the second half they suddenly looked vulnerable. We equalise and then go back to trying to manage the game again, let our opponents off the hook and lose the game. Surrendered the momentum and substituted the leading goalscorer in the league when we needed a late winner, why would a manager do that?
Trying to overplay it at the back put us under pressure and they missed two great chances as a result in the first half. You can't do that against good teams, clear your lines. So yes, shades of some of last seasons displays yesterday, i think it's a fear factor and a coaching team who need to trust their own players and stop over analysing the opposition. McNulty's interview summed it up, he seemed more interested in talking about Yorks strengths rather than ours and if you didn't know the score you would have thought we had won. He emphasises that both their goals came from outside the box as though they don't count. There's a lesson to be learned there, have a shot and see what happens. Anyway, maybe he and his coaches can take positives from the game to make us better next time we meet, at least it wasn't a walk over like the last time we played them at Spotland. Trust your players Jim and let them play. The post match interview of York's manager is very interesting, it sounds as though they had our number tactically throughout the game....not sure if somebody can post it?.
Time to concentrate on the league now and extend the points gap at the top. Two league games only in the next three and a half weeks, so players being fatigued wont be a issue. I think yesterdays loss will fuel the players and increase their hunger in our upcoming league games now. [Post edited 12 Oct 8:10]
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Reply | FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread
at 19:17 11 Oct 2025
My exacts thoughts also. I think McNulty and the coaches will take a lot out of that game when they watch it back. Varying our play by going long at times was something that i think we missed. We didn't turn their defenders enough and we missed Allarakhia out wide. We were too predictable i thought. Fine margins though, on another day Newby sky's the first goal out of the stadium and the keeper drops on the second one. Yeovil at home next week was always going to be the bigger game i think. [Post edited 11 Oct 19:19]
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Reply | FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread
at 18:41 11 Oct 2025
Harrassed our defenders and forced us into errors at the back, good forward play, they should have scored more in the second half. Had our keeper not made the error at the end he was our best player i thought. York deserved to win the game i thought, as the home team we didn't create enough. |
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Reply | FA Cup 4th Q- York City (H) 11th Oct -Match Thread
at 18:01 11 Oct 2025
A worldy of a goal and a keepers error won it. To be fair York were the better team and made the clear cut chances. We created very little. Not a bad performance though but after equalising we dropped the momentum instead of keeping up the intensity. Route one seemed to unsettle them, we couldnt play through them. [Post edited 11 Oct 18:36]
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