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I hope so, because it is a decision of national importance that should not be in the hands of the Brummie plod, nor should the cost be borne by the locals.
It’s a no win situation, and people will probably get hurt, but Starmer needs to show that the UK has a strong government, that we are still in control of our country and we are not racist. As a nation, we have recognised the Palestinian State and there is a ceasefire, we don’t need to fan the flames anymore.
I’m 100% in favour of any fairly elected government or institution banning whoever they see fit.
Rightly or wrongly Israel and their clubs have not been banned.
The world doesn’t see the detail, it just sees that Donald and his sidekick are right, we’ve lost control of our country, it’s not safe on the streets of England because immigrants have taken over, they are calling the shots. The country that stood up the Nazis to defend freedom is now dictated to by a mob. We know that’s not what this is about and that most protesters will be white and born here, but the rest of the world don’t.
Sometimes you just have to do things that are unpleasant or difficult, because it’s the right thing to do.
Ajax fans would fight with their own shadow and where we have tackled our football issues, the Dutch authorities have failed. Aston Villa and their fans are just caught up in this shitty mess.
One more thing, our fans will soon be heading off to the world cup which is being held in the country that has the second largest Jewish population in the world (and the biggest collection of privately owned guns).
You don’t see that giving in to mob rule is a dangerous precedence?
You don’t have a problem with our country banning people because of where they come from? Is racism now OK if you don’t like the victim?
However morally justified they may be, it is not acceptable for a bunch of unelected political activists to decide how we run our country. It is the job of the police to maintain law and other, as people go about their legitimate business, not to decide what group of people can come and which cannot.
Injuries or damage to property is far less damaging than this. It would be different if the MTA fans were the threat, but they have a legitimate right to come and support their team. I’m not happy about them coming, but I’m far less happy that England has become so pathetic that it has lost control of its streets.
If it is acceptable for a mob to stop people going about their legitimate business then are we saying that Just Stop Oil can bring the country to a standstill? Do they just need to threaten violence before it’s OK for us to give in to them as well? If not, why not?
I take it that if you are OK with a ban on MTA fans, then you will be happy to stop using your car if Just Stop Oil turn violent? Or is it a different set of rules if it affects you? Are you happy for other countries to start banning English visitors if a few of their people are anti-english, parts of our history are no better than any recent events, so why not?
If we are now in the business of managing potential flashpoints, then surely that’s England banned from absolutely everywhere.
Not only are we showing the world that we have lost control of our own country, we are setting some very dangerous precedents.
Whilst I wouldn’t piss on one of their fans if they were on fire, I think this is a shockingly bad decision from a country that’s already a laughing stock across Europe.
Look at England fans behaviour over the last 40 years. How many countries have banned us from attending matches? If our pathetic authorities are correct on this call then English fans should never be allowed abroad again. The cost to other countries to police our scum over the years has been astronomic, but they just get on with it, because you don’t let the wrong’uns dictate how the rest of us go about our business. The German, Spanish and French police must be pissing themselves with laughter at our cowardly bobbies. The shite they’ve had to put up with in the past from tens of thousands of bottle throwing Ing-ger-land ‘boys’, and we can’t cope with a one-off club game because of some political activists, and that's the important bit, it's not the MTA fans that are the problem, it's because we cannot control our own people who might turn up to protest. It is wrong on many levels.
If UEFA deem this shower of shite are allowed to enter the competition, then their fans should be allowed to attend. If the UK has become so pathetic that it cannot keep its inhabitants under control, then Aston Villa should be thrown out of the tournament or the match should be switched to Tel Aviv. Why should Aston Villa be handed an advantage just because the English police are not up to the job. Whatever the level of threat, you just have to deal with it, otherwise once you give in to the threat of protest, you have lost and you will encourage more and more hostile action in the future.
How hard is it to bus a couple of thousand people from the airport, straight to the ground and straight back again? If we cannot manage this then what are the plod going to do if there is ever any serious disturbance in the UK?
Once you let them start this kind of caper, it’s the thin edge of the wedge, what’s next? No away fans at any local derby?
Probably best not to invite Brad round if you’re having a barbie. By the time he’s finished telling you where you’re going wrong with your lawn, you won’t know your arse from your elbow and the sausages will be cinders.
It certainly is excellent viewing and well worth watching in its entirety.
The bloke (and his team) are legends and probably our best signing for years. What he doesn't know about the subject isn't worth knowing. You would think he has 40 years of experience.
It just shows that it's not simply about throwing money at the pitch. It's knowledge, dedication and lots of hard work, he has all of that in abundance.
The transformation from previous years is truly remarkable and if anyone deserves an award this season it's the ground staff.
Excellent ground staff, very capable management/backroom team, a half decent squad put together on a shoestring, the BWA, the best fans in the EFL, we are getting there, let's hope they can soon get the right leadership and financial backing that they all deserve.
You have to wonder how much of this is down to DC/NC, because this video doesn't correlate in any way to the atmosphere that was around the club before DC/NC arrived.
Before I drop to my knees and extol this news. Can I just ask.......
.....for a friend.
1. Why was the pitch ever allowed to get in the state it did?
2. Similarly why was the stadium neglected so much that the BWA were raising funds for basic stadium maintenance?
3. Why did last years drainage works look to be no more than a half-arsed attempt that had limited impact?
4. With an apparent imminent sale of the club and the potential to pimp out our ground to rivals, how come all of a sudden there's money available to do the job properly?
5. What has 33 million and constant player sales been spent on? To my knowledge, no other L2 club comes close to that sort of debt and what have we had in return?
6. Whilst the decline both on and off the pitch cannot come to an end quick enough for me, how easy can it be to sell something where you have created accounts that show such heavy losses whilst simultaneously sinking down the divisions?
Even ST would have put that one way, although he’d have probably made hard work of it last Tuesday.
You’re right about their 33. Come January, I recon he could be ours for a gallon of white line paint and a new grass box for a 27” Qualcast deluxe.
If we put him in the U41s for a couple of weeks and then on loan for a month, DC and the local journos could pass him off as yet another product of our academy.
It’s win-win.
P.S. In all seriousness, after the tragic death of poor Billy Vigar, trying to put someone in the advertising hoardings should be a straight red and 10 match ban.
Very silly on their part to suggest dangerous play.
Whereas, Chelmsfords game on Saturday. Take a look at their No22 at about 30 seconds in. He initially protests at it being given as a foul, never mind the yellow.
He's lucky not to be on a charge of attempted murder!
I can't imagine anyone coming up with a better one than that.
Going off on a tangent, I'm quite partial to a day at the races, and horse names have to be checked out and approved by the authorities, but occasionally one or two smutty ones get through.
Years ago there was a horse called G-spot, and the joke was that you should bet on it to come second.
My favorite was a horse called Hoof Hearted, a commentators nightmare.
Bolton is well into my top 10 of favorite grounds. We all like different things, but if architecture is your thing, then Bolton is a sure winner, especially when it’s lit up at night. Acres and acres of parking around the ground, which is great (until you want to leave).
Just don't put Bolton in your SatNav, because the ground is halfway between Bolton and Wigan.
The funniest thing about 1978 (apart from Alan Rough in goal and that freekick wall) is that many of Ally’s Army thought they could actually win it.
The footballing gods have rightly punished their p-heads fans for desecrating of the home of football back in 1977.
FIFA had to outlaw passing back to the keeper, on the grounds of public health. The rest of the world were in danger of dying of laughter when Scotland played.