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Premier League Cup Final match thread
at 15:13 16 May 2025

I'd been talking him up before the KO and my dad was laughing at me, until he did that double save when Brentford had their spell of pressure.

Good shot stopping, nice and brave, came off his line and good at crosses.
But, he does need to work on his distribution, you can def see the ethos through all the squads to play out from the back
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Nathan Jones Amateur Dramatics
at 15:09 16 May 2025

Let's just hope they have an iso on him when Charlie gets the hattrick and condemns them to another season in L1.

Got to be one of the most dislikeable men in football, just under John Terry and Joey Barton for me
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Cup final tangential thoughts.
at 13:04 16 May 2025

It was an interesting tactic, I thought we gave the Brentford #7 a lot of space.
Probably knowing that Putman is rapid and could close the space back quickly.

The kids looked great, and that midfield three showed the first team how it can be done with legs, hustle and forward passing

Tuck could be very handy for us if he continues to develop and we already know what Morgan can do, he looked good with fast people to slide in a few times.
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PL Cup Final - squad selection
at 12:11 14 May 2025

Brentford are playing Fulham on Sunday, so I doubt they will field any first team players on Thursday night

Also, in a same vein are our first team squad now on holiday?
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Players who you thought would be brilliant but ended up being bang average !!!
at 10:11 14 May 2025

I don't think Steve Slade was well liked by the other players.
I heard a story that he faked a theft of some jewellery/watch from the training ground in Twyford and tried to get the kit man in trouble.
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Taiwo Awoniyi of Forest placed into induced coma
at 10:06 14 May 2025

A tiny parallel to Sam Fields last injury. Where the player thinks they can continue and the wrong substitution is made.

We need a way to pause the game, so proper checks can be made before something horrible happens on the pitch.

Of course, how are we going to police this? You can imagine someone like Preston using this several times in a match to slow the clock down...
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Players who thought would be bang average but ended up being brilliant !!
at 15:21 13 May 2025

At the time I was massively underwhelmed with the signings of
Shaun Derry
Clint Hill
I was convinced this was a backwards step *puts on tin hat*
Glad to be proved wrong
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Players who you thought would be brilliant but ended up being bang average !!!
at 12:28 13 May 2025

His nickname was "The Bouncer"
I think this was meant to allude that he was hard or something?

Another absolute wet lettuce of a disappointment.

He had Nedum Onouha levels of aggression
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Jonathan Varane contract extension
at 15:42 9 May 2025

Luton just got relegated, I bet Alfie Doughty is on less wages than Colback and Fox together.
Probably available to play more often.

In reality, I think Paal is gone as well, so we are short of a first choice LB next season
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Tickets for QPR U21s V Brentford U21s
at 11:44 9 May 2025

I think Brentford are moved to School End, so there are a few more tickets in SA Rd now, but I had to phone up to get some
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Jonathan Varane contract extension
at 10:54 9 May 2025

I really don't want to see an announcement on an extension for Colback.
What a disappointment he's been. I'd imagine he's at the higher end of the wages scale and he is unavailable to play a lot of the time.

I agree a young side needs experience, but Champ players like him (and Fox) are ten a penny and we shouldn't be breaking our budget to keep hold of them, at the expense of exciting young talent
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Jimmy Dunne
at 10:03 9 May 2025

AND I reckon it was only a few hundred thousand if condition A, B and C were met.

Probably based on promotion, appearances and international call ups.
So, really the only money coming in would have been from savings on wages, which as the budget was already set I guess was not as vital as survival?
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Jimmy Dunne
at 16:19 8 May 2025

If we assume that this is the equivalent of paying up his wages/contract for us to let him leave then this puts JD on £16.5k p/w
Seems about right, top end of our wage bill?
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Jimmy Dunne
at 11:29 8 May 2025

^^ This is exactly what I was trying to say and how I feel about it all ^^

It's spin, perception, PR if you have to give it a name...

What Jimmy has done differently though is continue to perform at the highest level.
-- I haven't noticed him down tools, fake an injury, pull out of tackles etc.
If anything he's played better towards the end of the season (the shop window effect?)

He's a model pro and I'll be sorry to see him go (unless he's replaced by Edwards on a perm move in some crazy deal)
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Jimmy Dunne
at 10:17 8 May 2025

I don't think I have an agenda.
I don't think anyone on this board has seen the players contracts, so we are talking about what we think based on our own experiences. Who knows the real truth

We've got to remember that for the last two years we have flirted with relegation at various points. This must have an impact in deciding when/who gets contract extensions.

I really like Jimmy Dunne, there is absolutely no argument he has been one of the better players in our squad and his stats put him at the top of the whole division.

But if the Chairman, CEO/DoF are saying that we need to be a developing and selling club then that means we sign more players like Morgan, Varane and Morisson with an idea that we make them better and sell them for profit.
There is an argument that giving a long contract to an older player is the opposite of this plan.

We are not in court I don't have to corroborate anything to you! ;D
Is everything you write a fact, that has been verified by two independent sources?
Grow up
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Jimmy Dunne
at 10:00 8 May 2025

Was that the end of last year when it looked like we might be in L1?
Not stirring, just think if we had handed out a long contract with a pay rise and got relegated then it would have been really bad for the club
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Jimmy Dunne
at 17:30 7 May 2025

How comes when Nourry spins something everyone is all over it?

Jimmy Dunne isn't being let go on a free. The club have offered him a new deal and the player has not signed it, leaving his options open to talk to other clubs.

I'm sure the club offered him more than he is on now, and are trying to stay within the limitations of our budget.

But, I don't think they are letting him walk away for free.
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Cleverley Done
at 16:14 7 May 2025

Are they not in their 3rd year of a P&S cycle? Much like we were after Warburtons splurge for playoffs.

I think that Watford still have a lot of quality in their first team, and their league position is probably under par for their budget

Didn't they sell Aprilla for big money recently as well?
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Cleverley Done
at 15:50 7 May 2025

I think in practice the club they leave either agree a settlement.
So, if they had a year left they might agree to pay them 6 months in one go.
Or, the club carries on paying them a salary until they get employed again, at which point the new club effectively agree a new contract and start paying them.

You can usually tell who is in this situation by looking at the panel on Monday Night Football.

Lovely work if you can get it, paid to fail and its never anyone's fault!

A lot of people saying Cleverly was harshly done by, but after watching some of those Ben Foster videos with Watford fannying around on Airplanes for away games with Premier League players in the squad I'm not so sure!

Massive budget, should be top half easily
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Jimmy Dunne
at 12:28 6 May 2025

Where have we got the £200k figure from?
That's (only) less than £4k per week isn't it? I'd imagine one of your better players is on more than that per week, or is that the pay rise to keep him?

I'm no expert, but a new club would be offering a signing on fee probably worth more than that alone (although I think they spread it over the contract length).

JD's stats this season have made him one of the better performing defenders, I'm just gutted the club couldn't get something for him if he has to move on, as this should be the overall plan... Then use any money to buy players like Morrison or Edwards, who have the potential to make serious money in the future
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