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"Shoot" "Beano" "Roy of the Rovers"
at 08:43 13 Jun 2025

As a young boy used to buy all of these. When I became a "man", still waiting tbf, purchased "Viz" and the "Today" newspaper. Don't buy magazines or newspapers anymore. Internet and round clock television changed all that. Sometimes less information was more for me.


Anyone still buy magazines or newspapers or know anyone that buys comics ???





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Old sayings that are either still very apt today or just plain daft
at 19:58 11 Jun 2025

" Brian Moore's head looks suspiciously like the London planetarium."


Brian Moore the ITV Commentator from 70s, 80s and 90s.. Not the rugby player. Think there was a fanzine published in that name at the time....

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Peed off with myself
at 22:48 10 Jun 2025

Said I wasn't going to renew season ticket and blooming well did.

Why do that ????

There is no logical reason to do such a thing !!!
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Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ??
at 08:48 4 Jun 2025

Would you want the club to re instate Marti Cifuentes ??


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EMAILS - Hate them !!
at 15:13 18 May 2025

Personal, work, social, advertising, scams.


Life has become a constant life of EMAILS, EMAILS, EMAILS...


There is NEVER any escape !!!
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Eze watch - Cup Final
at 14:26 17 May 2025

Stunning hatrick please sir, guaranteed £100 million plus then. Please not career ending injury in minute one.

Gone and done it now - my fault !!!

Yes and only the twenty fifth Eze thread this month !!!!

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Spurs v Man Utd Europa League Final
at 23:51 14 May 2025

Curious as to who others would prefer to win out of these two low level premiership teams.

16th v 17th !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can both teams get soundly beaten please.

If I had to choose, I personally would enjoy a Tottenham meltdown but neither team deserves to taste glory this season.

Long may both their declines continue

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Players who thought would be bang average but ended up being brilliant !!
at 15:03 13 May 2025

No sorry...

Can't think of any. !!!

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Trent Alexander Arnold being booed
at 08:31 12 May 2025

Utter disgrace by Liverpool fans.



Club legend.

Local lad.

Been there from a very young boy.

Major part of their impressive glory days of recent years.

Leaving for a new exciting challenge

Not cost them a penny in terms of a transfer fee.




What other club's fanbase would do this ??
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Players who you thought would be brilliant but ended up being bang average !!!
at 11:10 11 May 2025

Will start with a recent one. Sinclair Armstrong.

I thought in his first few games, I predicted Sinclair Armstrong had the potential to be a top top player and felt it was all within himself to achieve this. Definitely had hopes and probably like many to start with, he reminded me of Sir Les. Very wrong on that one.

Another recent player for me was Rob Dickie

I think at the start of one of his seasons, he banged in two or three twenty five yard goals, as well as being everywhere in defence. He has, for me been more successful than Sinclair, but seems his level is a decent but not outstanding championship central defender. He is going to have a tough time coming up, after his foul seems to have knocked Bristol out of the playoffs also.

Clearly Ronnie Edwards has shown brilliance and massive potential. Be interesting to see how he improves. It's never a given, but I doubt he will end up fitting into this particular category.

Anyone have others over the many years of following Rangers that spring to mind...

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QPR in a Nutshell by AI
at 16:27 7 May 2025

Thought seen as few complaints about AI posts and threads, sadly have tested out its impact and the following output has taken me 11 minutes and 53 seconds to compile.

Whether it's helpful, irritating, nonsense or a total load of old tosh, all the following was achieved in a ridiculously small timescale.

Anyhow without further wotsits, here it all is...


QPR 2024-2025 SEASON REVIEW


2024-2025 season was a mixed bag for Queens Park Rangers (QPR). They finished 15th in the Championship, marking their tenth consecutive season in this league [1]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._season). Here are some key highlights:

- **League Performance**: QPR had a rollercoaster season, with their highest victory being a 4-0 win against Derby County on February 14, 2025 [1]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._season). However, they also suffered a heavy 0-5 defeat to Burnley on April 26, 2025 [1]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._season).
- **Cup Competitions**: In the FA Cup and EFL Cup, QPR reached the third round in both competitions [1]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._season).
- **Top Scorer**: Michael Frey was the standout player, finishing as the top scorer with 9 goals in all competitions [1]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._season).
- **Attendance**: The highest home attendance was 17,457 against Leeds United on March 15, 2025 [1]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._season), while the lowest was 13,407 against Hull City on November 5, 2024 [1]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._season).

Despite the ups and downs, QPR showed resilience and had some memorable moments throughout the season. Are you a QPR fan, or just interested in their performance?

TRANSFERS 2024-2025


During the 2024-2025 season, Queens Park Rangers (QPR) made several key player transfers:

### **Incoming Transfers:**
1. **Nicolas Madsen** (Central Midfield) - Joined from KVC Westerlo for €4 million [1]( https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/queens-park-rangers/transfers/verein/1039/).
2. **Zan Celar** (Centre-Forward) - Signed from FC Lugano for €2 million [1]( https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/queens-park-rangers/transfers/verein/1039/).
3. **Jonathan Varane** (Central Midfield) - Transferred from Sporting Gijón for €1.53 million [1]( https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/queens-park-rangers/transfers/verein/1039/).
4. **Esquerdinha** (Left-Back) - Acquired from Fluminense for €600k [1]( https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/queens-park-rangers/transfers/verein/1039/).
5. **Daniel Bennie** (Left Winger) - Brought in from Perth Glory for €297k [1]( https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/queens-park-rangers/transfers/verein/1039/).

### **Outgoing Transfers:**
1. **Chris Willock** (Right Winger) - Moved to Burnley for €3.5 million [1]( https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/queens-park-rangers/transfers/verein/1039/).
2. **Rob Dickie** (Centre-Back) - Transferred to Sheffield United for €2.8 million [1]( https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/queens-park-rangers/transfers/verein/1039/).
3. **Albert Adomah** (Right Midfield) - Joined Reading on a free transfer [1]( https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/queens-park-rangers/transfers/verein/1039/).

These transfers were aimed at strengthening the squad and addressing key areas that needed improvement. Do you follow QPR closely, or are you interested in football transfers in general?

STANDOUT PLAYERS 2024 - 2025

During the 2024-2025 season, several players stood out for Queens Park Rangers (QPR):

1. **Michael Frey**: As the top scorer for the season, Frey netted 9 goals in all competitions [1]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._season). His consistent performance in front of goal was crucial for QPR.
2. **Ilias Chair**: Chair continued to be a key creative force, contributing significantly with his playmaking abilities and scoring 6 goals [1]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._season).
3. **Sam Field**: A reliable presence in midfield, Field's defensive work and ability to control the tempo of the game were vital for the team [2]( https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team/squad/_/id/334/eng.qpr).
4. **Jimmy Dunne**: In defense, Dunne was a standout performer, providing stability and leadership at the back [2]( https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team/squad/_/id/334/eng.qpr).

These players were instrumental in QPR's efforts throughout the season. Do you have a favorite player from the team?

STANDOUT MATCHES 2024-2025

Queens Park Rangers (QPR) had several standout matches during the 2024-2025 season:

1. **QPR vs Derby County (4-0)**: On February 14, 2025, QPR secured their biggest win of the season with a dominant performance against Derby County [1]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._season). This match showcased their attacking prowess and solid defense.
2. **QPR vs Oxford United (3-1)**: On April 9, 2025, QPR delivered a strong away performance, defeating Oxford United [2]( https://www.qpr.co.uk/matches). This victory was crucial in boosting team morale.
3. **QPR vs Leeds United (2-2)**: On March 15, 2025, QPR held Leeds United to a thrilling draw [1]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._season). The match was notable for its high intensity and competitive spirit.
4. **QPR vs Blackburn Rovers (2-1)**: On February 4, 2025, QPR managed a hard-fought win against Blackburn Rovers [2]( https://www.qpr.co.uk/matches), demonstrating their resilience and determination.

These matches were highlights in a season filled with ups and downs. Do you have a favorite match or moment from the season?

STANDOUT GOALS

During the 2024-2025 season, Queens Park Rangers (QPR) had several memorable goals:

1. **Michael Frey**: Frey scored a stunning goal in the 4-0 victory against Derby County on February 14, 2025 [1]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._season). His powerful strike from outside the box was a highlight of the season.
2. **Ilias Chair**: Chair's goal in the 2-2 draw against Leeds United on March 15, 2025, was particularly memorable [2]( https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/qpr/2024-25/top-scorers.html). He dribbled past two defenders before slotting the ball into the net.
3. **Sam Field**: Field's goal in the 2-1 win over Blackburn Rovers on February 4, 2025, was crucial [2]( https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/qpr/2024-25/top-scorers.html). His header from a corner kick secured the victory for QPR.
4. **Jimmy Dunne**: Dunne's goal in the 3-1 win against Oxford United on April 9, 2025, was a standout [2]( https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/qpr/2024-25/top-scorers.html). His towering header from a set-piece was a testament to his aerial prowess.

These goals were not only important for the results but also showcased the individual brilliance of the players. Do you have a favorite goal from the season?

STANDOUT PLAYERS V YESTER YEAR PLAYERS

Comparing the standout players from the 2024-2025 season to past seasons, we can see some interesting trends and differences:

### **Michael Frey**:
- **2024-2025**: Top scorer with 9 goals [1]( https://www.premierleague.com/clubs/17/Queens-Park-Rangers/season-history).
- **Past Seasons**: Previous top scorers like Charlie Austin (18 goals in 2014-2015) and Loïc Rémy (6 goals in 2012-2013) had varying impacts [1]( https://www.premierleague.com/clubs/17/Queens-Park-Rangers/season-history) [2]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._seasons). Frey's performance is notable but not as prolific as Austin's.

### **Ilias Chair**:
- **2024-2025**: Key creative force with 6 goals [1]( https://www.premierleague.com/clubs/17/Queens-Park-Rangers/season-history).
- **Past Seasons**: Chair has been a consistent performer over recent seasons, often being a central figure in QPR's midfield. His contributions have been crucial, similar to past playmakers like Adel Taarabt in the early 2010s [2]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._seasons).

### **Sam Field**:
- **2024-2025**: Reliable midfield presence [2]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._seasons).
- **Past Seasons**: Field's role is comparable to past midfield stalwarts like Joey Barton, who provided leadership and stability during his tenure [2]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._seasons).

### **Jimmy Dunne**:
- **2024-2025**: Standout defender [2]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._seasons).
- **Past Seasons**: Dunne's defensive contributions are reminiscent of players like Clint Hill, who was a key figure in defense during the early 2010s [2]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._seasons).

Overall, while the current standout players have made significant contributions, comparing them to past seasons highlights both the continuity and evolution in QPR's squad. Each era has had its key players who have left their mark on the club's history. Do you have a favorite player from QPR's past or present?

QPR STYLE OF PLAY OVER THE YEARS

Queens Park Rangers (QPR) have seen significant changes in their style of play over the years. Here's a brief overview of how their approach has evolved:

### **Early Years (1880s - 1960s)**:
- **Formation and Early History**: Initially, QPR's style was typical of early English football, focusing on physicality and direct play.
- **1960s**: Under Alec Stock, QPR adopted a more attacking style, culminating in their League Cup win in 1967.

### **1970s - 1980s**:
- **1970s**: QPR played attractive, attacking football, nearly winning the First Division title in 1975-76.
- **1980s**: The team continued to emphasize skillful play, reaching the FA Cup final in 1982.

### **1990s - 2000s**:
- **1990s**: As founder members of the Premier League, QPR's style was characterized by a mix of direct and possession-based football.
- **2000s**: After relegation, the team focused on rebuilding, with a more pragmatic approach to secure promotion.

### **2010s - Present**:
- **2010s**: QPR's style varied, with periods of defensive solidity and attacking flair, especially during their Championship-winning season in 2010-11.
- **Recent Years**: The team has aimed for a balanced approach, combining solid defense with quick transitions and creative midfield play.

Overall, QPR's style of play has evolved from physical and direct to a more balanced and tactical approach, reflecting changes in football tactics and the club's ambitions. Do you have a favorite era or style of play from QPR's history?

FAN CULTURE - QPR

Fan culture at Queens Park Rangers (QPR) has evolved significantly over the years, reflecting broader changes in football and society:

### **Early Days**:
- **Local Roots**: Initially, QPR's fan base was primarily local, with strong ties to the Shepherd's Bush area [1]( https://thefootballeducator.com/queens-park-rangers/). The club's early supporters were known for their passionate and vocal support, creating a vibrant atmosphere at matches.

### **1970s - 1980s**:
- **Golden Era**: During the 1970s, when QPR nearly won the First Division, the fan base grew, and the club's success attracted more supporters [2]( https://soccerwizdom.com/2025/02/14/queens-park-rangers-a-club-of-passion-and-hi The 1980s saw the introduction of an artificial pitch at Loftus Road, which was controversial but also a point of pride for fans [2]( https://soccerwizdom.com/2025/02/14/queens-park-rangers-a-club-of-passion-and-hi

### **1990s - 2000s**:
- **Premier League and Financial Struggles**: The early 1990s brought the excitement of the Premier League, with QPR finishing as the top London club in the inaugural season [2]( https://soccerwizdom.com/2025/02/14/queens-park-rangers-a-club-of-passion-and-hi However, financial difficulties and relegation battles in the late 1990s and early 2000s tested the loyalty of the fans [2]( https://soccerwizdom.com/2025/02/14/queens-park-rangers-a-club-of-passion-and-hi Despite these challenges, the supporters remained steadfast, demonstrating their resilience and dedication.

### **Recent Years**:
- **Modern Fan Engagement**: In recent years, QPR has embraced modern fan engagement strategies, including social media and community outreach programs [1]( https://thefootballeducator.com/queens-park-rangers/). The club has worked to maintain a strong connection with its supporters, emphasizing inclusivity and community spirit.
- **Diverse Fan Base**: The fan base has become more diverse, reflecting the multicultural nature of London [1]( https://thefootballeducator.com/queens-park-rangers/). This diversity has enriched the club's culture, bringing new perspectives and traditions to the QPR community.

### **Community and Loyalty**:
- **Undying Spirit**: Throughout its history, the undying spirit of QPR fans has been a defining characteristic [1]( https://thefootballeducator.com/queens-park-rangers/). Whether through triumphs or tribulations, the supporters have remained a constant source of strength for the club.

The evolution of QPR's fan culture highlights the club's ability to adapt and thrive amidst changing times. The loyalty and passion of the fans continue to be a cornerstone of QPR's identity. Do you have any personal experiences or memories with QPR's fan culture?

LOFTUS ROAD STADIUM

The atmosphere at Loftus Road, home of Queens Park Rangers (QPR), is known for being intimate and vibrant. Here are some key aspects that contribute to its unique atmosphere:

### **Close Proximity to the Pitch**:
- **Intimate Setting**: Loftus Road is designed in the traditional English style, with stands close to the pitch [1]( https://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/grounds/england/loftus-road/). This creates an intense and engaging environment where fans feel very much part of the action.

### **Passionate Fans**:
- **Vocal Support**: QPR fans are known for their passionate and vocal support. The Ellerslie Road Stand, in particular, houses some of the most vocal supporters, contributing to a lively atmosphere [1]( https://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/grounds/england/loftus-road/).
- **Community Spirit**: The fan base has a strong sense of community, with many supporters having deep-rooted connections to the club and the Shepherd's Bush area [1]( https://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/grounds/england/loftus-road/).

### **Historic Venue**:
- **Old-School Charm**: Loftus Road has a rich history and an old-school charm that many modern stadiums lack [1]( https://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/grounds/england/loftus-road/). Walking through the residential streets of Shepherd's Bush to reach the stadium adds to the unique matchday experience [2]( https://www.reddit.com/r/Championship/comments/wy3zla/best_atmosphere/).

### **Matchday Experience**:
- **Pre-Match Rituals**: Fans often gather in local pubs around Shepherd's Bush before heading to the stadium, enhancing the sense of camaraderie and anticipation [2]( https://www.reddit.com/r/Championship/comments/wy3zla/best_atmosphere/).
- **Electric Atmosphere**: On matchdays, especially during important fixtures, the atmosphere can be electric, with fans creating a wall of noise to support their team [1]( https://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/grounds/england/loftus-road/).

Overall, Loftus Road offers a distinctive and memorable experience for both home and away fans. Have you ever been to a match at Loftus Road, or are you planning to visit?

BEST SEATS IN THE HOUSE

The best seats at Loftus Road, home of Queens Park Rangers (QPR), depend on what kind of experience you're looking for:

### **For the Best View**:
- **South Africa Road Stand**: Seats in the South Africa Road Stand, particularly around the F Block, offer an excellent panoramic view of the entire pitch. These seats are elevated, providing a clear view without obstructions [1]( https://www.reddit.com/r/superhoops/comments/2uigrm/best_place_to_sit_at_loftus_

### **For Atmosphere**:
- **Ellerslie Road (Stan Bowles) Stand**: The R and S blocks in the Ellerslie Road Stand are known for their lively atmosphere. These sections are close to the action and are filled with passionate fans [2]( https://www.reddit.com/r/superhoops/comments/wq0b2h/best_seats_at_loftus_road_fo
- **Lower Loft**: This section is also known for its vibrant and vocal supporters. It's a great place to experience the energy and chants of the QPR faithful [2]( https://www.reddit.com/r/superhoops/comments/wq0b2h/best_seats_at_loftus_road_fo

### **For a Balanced Experience**:
- **Upper Loft**: Offers a good view of the pitch and a decent atmosphere. It's a great choice if you want a mix of both [1]( https://www.reddit.com/r/superhoops/comments/2uigrm/best_place_to_sit_at_loftus_

### **Avoiding Obstructions**:
- **Avoid Restricted View Seats**: Some seats in the South Africa Road and Ellerslie Road stands have restricted views due to support columns. It's best to check the seating map and avoid these areas [1]( https://www.reddit.com/r/superhoops/comments/2uigrm/best_place_to_sit_at_loftus_

Each section has its own unique charm, so it really depends on whether you prioritize the view, the atmosphere, or a bit of both. Have you decided which match you might attend, or are you just exploring options?

BEST PUBS AND HOSTELRIES NEARBY

Yes, there are several great pubs near Loftus Road where you can enjoy a drink before or after the match:

### **The Queen's Tavern**
- **Location**: 121 South Africa Road, London W12 7PA
- **Highlights**: Popular with QPR fans, it has a large beer garden and a good selection of food and drinks [1]( https://www.londonworld.com/sport/football/qpr/the-15-best-bars-within-20-minute

### **The Crown & Sceptre**
- **Location**: 57 Melina Road, London W12 9HY
- **Highlights**: Known for its large screen for watching sports and a wide range of beers on tap [2]( https://mygroundguide.com/football/england/championship/loftus-road-stadium/).

### **The White Horse**
- **Location**: 31 Uxbridge Road, London W12 8LH
- **Highlights**: A traditional pub with a cozy atmosphere, perfect for a pint and a chat [2]( https://mygroundguide.com/football/england/championship/loftus-road-stadium/).

### **Belushi's**
- **Location**: 13-15 Shepherd's Bush Green, London W12 8PH
- **Highlights**: A lively chain pub with a wide range of beers, cocktails, and food [2]( https://mygroundguide.com/football/england/championship/loftus-road-stadium/).

### **The Central Bar**
- **Location**: Unit 1, West 12 Shopping Centre, Shepherd's Bush Green, London W12 8PH
- **Highlights**: Offers a vibrant atmosphere and a variety of drinks [1]( https://www.londonworld.com/sport/football/qpr/the-15-best-bars-within-20-minute

These pubs are all within walking distance of Loftus Road and provide a great matchday experience. Do any of these places catch your eye?

QUIET CONTEMPLATION NEAR THE GROUND

Yes, there are several quiet spots near Loftus Road where you can relax before a game:

### **Hammersmith Park**
- **Location**: South Africa Road, London W12
- **Highlights**: A peaceful green space with gardens, walking paths, and benches. It's a great spot to unwind and enjoy some tranquility before heading to the match [1]( https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g186338-i17-k14695210-Loftus_Road_seat_adv

### **Westfield London**
- **Location**: Ariel Way, Shepherd's Bush, London W12 7GF
- **Highlights**: While it's a bustling shopping center, there are quieter areas such as the rooftop garden and various cafes where you can relax [1]( https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g186338-i17-k14695210-Loftus_Road_seat_adv

### **Shepherd's Bush Green**
- **Location**: Shepherd's Bush, London W12
- **Highlights**: A large open space with plenty of seating areas. It's a nice place to sit and relax, especially on a sunny day [1]( https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g186338-i17-k14695210-Loftus_Road_seat_adv

### **Bush Theatre Cafe**
- **Location**: 7 Uxbridge Road, London W12 8LJ
- **Highlights**: A cozy cafe within the Bush Theatre, offering a quiet atmosphere and a selection of drinks and snacks [1]( https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g186338-i17-k14695210-Loftus_Road_seat_adv

These spots provide a calm environment to relax and gather your thoughts before the excitement of the game. Do any of these places sound appealing to you?

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"Gardening Leave" - what exactly does this mean ??
at 23:38 4 May 2025

I have looked on google and used AI too, just to see what exactly this means for an employee and employer under this imposed condition

From all I can see this can only be imposed on an employee for the term of their notice period.

So if Cifuentes had a three month notice period stipulated in his most recent contract, he can't seek out any alternative work during this period and also cannot work for another employer during this period also.

Mad in respect to any professional football manager to have notice period in their contract anyhow ie if another club wants them and pays them more money, they leave.

However from what I have read, if they do break the terms of their contract or a new prospective employer poaches them during this period, compensation would be legally required.

Ok

So this then seems like it may save the club some money but what it does do is stop Marti from seeking a new club and any new clubs from appointing him also. I guess his notice period as listed on the contract could even be three months.

Football is unlike any other profession and the notice period is in there for contract purposes and protecting the club. In reality who in football works out their notice.

What I would say though what managers could we attract if coming in, they are aware this could be included in their contract.

Who would want to join us, if they knew that if a big club came in for them , because they had done extremely well for us, that club could not then sign our manager for a lengthy period of time. Hardly going to allow any future half decent managers coming to our club..

Also, tbh also in this case it's a kick in the teeth for Cifuentes. He has done a half decent job for us and this kind of decision keeping him, unable to work or seek alternatives, is not great for anyone.

Does anyone on here have extensive knowledge or personal experience of GARDENING LEAVE ??

I am assuming Nourry has put this contract obligation in Marti s and Xavi s contracts when they were renewed.

So when any kind of contact from an interested club was started, they have immediately put the manager in this predicament

Probably West Brom would have appointed Marti, but can't now due to QPR invoking this.

So yeah, as said what future managers are we likely to put off joining ourselves if the likelihood is, they could be put in this situation in the future.

Would be stunned if when Marti re signed new deal, he did not have a contract employment expert, to read all the small print and this clause for me is a massive RED flag !!!

Whatever it is though, I think it totally reeks of idiotic bureaucracy and helps no one...

Football is unlike any other profession, players and managers constantly change.

The fact Cifuentes was fifth longest serving manager in Championship out of twenty four, despite only being here for eighteen months, says it all, to be fair about how Normal rules of employment are not the same as any other profession.

I haven't heard of any other football club invoking Gardening leave in recent years and in fact the last professional football club bringing this in, i knew of , doing this was, yes indeedy, good old QPR with Monsieur Ian Holloway !!

Crackpot bureaucracy by a crackpot club and i support this club and am saying this

Since we had the shambles of a reign under the Briatore / Ecclestone era and equally shambolic under the Fernandes reign, fricking heck, we have learnt nothing.


Only at Rangers !!!

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HOME GAMES almost Relegation AWAY GAMES in Play Offs
at 14:37 3 May 2025

If our league position was entirely based on HOME games, we would be finishing ;

21st

One place above the relegation zone !!!



If our league position was entirely based on AWAY games, we would be finishing;

6th

In the playoffs !!!!


So much for fortress Loftus Road....
And away from home, the shackles are off...
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Anyone going to Sunderland, we salute you !!
at 10:05 27 Apr 2025

We need to know who you all are.....

Not sure if you are immense fans, or some of your screws aren't connected, but after the last few seasons we have had, a dreadful home defeat, it's unbelievably impressive support and for a 12.30pm kick off, the other end of the country...

We definitely have our strongest fanbase, home and away for many many decades....
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Other people's problems !!!
at 17:18 26 Apr 2025

Aston Villa fan on talksport losing the plot as he wants Ollie Watkins (England Cemtre Forward) 16 goals and 13 assists this season sold. He prefers Marcus Rashford and thinks Watkins is useless...

He needs his head testing !!!

What an awful situation his Champions League chasing, FA Cup Semi Finalist team pose for him...

Try attending Matrade Loftus Road Stadium chap !!!!!
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Why are so many bashing Nourry ??
at 18:39 24 Apr 2025

I cant quite get the level of undercurrents of low level hate towards Mr Nourry.

Its certainly a different way of operating to what we are used to.

And our club has employed him and apart from an injury ravaged season - definitely feel there have been several green shoots this season.

Its not been as good as most of us would have wished for but its been a reasonable season

And the phrase "Rome wasnt built in a day"

When we have been on a decent run here - no one chatted about Nourry but the poor runs of form - he gets both barrels from all and sundry - he has been the fall guy - no doubt.

Now I am far from saying I have agreed with all that he has supposedly been involved in and the results have been sketchy at times but overall we have stabilised and potentially there could be possibilities of "god forbid" a top half finish next season.

Its been a big change and the overall management of all areas of the club being under certain consistent structures of being so that changes in management or players moves smoothly and consistently in the right direction and with the correct overall ethos....

Yes there have been teething problems - any changes in any kind of organisation has these - some things wont work and some choices will be seen to be absolutely wrong but the idea to consistently improve, learn and in a consistent way also, I feel is the right way to progress.

Am certain both Brentford and Brighton have moved forwards with this kind of structures in place.

People worried about not being told details of contracts or injuries etc and then this was overturned - however then coincidentally we got all manner of ridiculous injuries.

I think the lack of knowledge from outside of Nourry's ultimate role and responsibilities and his impact is what concerns some fans a lot. If the ship starts sailing in the right direction, which it did from some period of time this season -Nourrys name was absent from this forum in particular...

Yes he is young. Yes he is non football man and yes he is a little nerdy.

But he is not here to cause trouble. Like everyone else his aim is for us as a club to be successful and he is trying in the way he is hoping it could be.

I think a lot of criticism has come his way as to the lack of fan engagement and being transparent but generally there have been more positives than negatives this season.

Next season we need to kick on.

Whether we do or not - who knows !!!!

We are trying something different and tbh why not indeed ??? Its not as if previous regimes succeeded greatly at all - we have been increasingly stained by our own mediocracy !!!!

I am 50 / 50 currently but will get behind this new approach. Anything new will face resistance but hey lets give this man a go and how we are being set up under this regime !!!!!!


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Cifuentes at odds with Nourry over Performance Manager based in Dubai
at 20:09 23 Apr 2025

Said to be a massive issue for Cifuentes with Nourry in the running of the club !!!

Almost at breaking point...

It is, however, a report from the comic, called the Sun "newspaper", so recollections of the truth may be sketchy !!!

Apologies for reproducing such nonsense but don't shoot the messenger, as they say...


ANYHOW THIS IS WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE SUN




"QPR boss Marti Cifuentes considering quitting as manager after breakdown in relationship with CEO
The Spaniard is unhappy with a major operational problem


QPR boss Marti Cifuentes could quit the club this summer after a breakdown in his relationship with chief executive Christian Nourry.

Spaniard Cifuentes, who joined Rangers from Swedish side Hammerby in November 2023, has grown frustrated with the direction the club is heading under Nourry - who was brought in to oversee the club's recruitment in January last year.

Cifuentes wants re-assurances the club want to progress to the next level.
Cifuentes, who signed a new contract in September, was linked with the Sunderland job last summer.

The Loftus Road manager's potential availability could interest Norwich and West Brom, who sacked Johannes Hoff Thorup and Tony Mowbray respectively on Easter Monday.

The highly-rated 42-year-old is hugely popular with the QPR fans after keeping the club in the Championship last season.

But he has grown frustrated with the huge number of injuries his squad encountered this season, which ended their flickering play-off hopes and will result in a lower-mid-table

Cifuentes is unhappy at the club's decision to allow director of performance Ben Williams to oversee the club's sports science, medical, physio and nutrition departments remotely from Dubai.

QPR chiefs also vetoed a move from 27-year-old Nourry to appoint a set-piece coach earlier this season.

Headline summer arrivals Zan Celar and Nicolas Madsen have struggled since signing for a combined fee of over £5million.

And Cifuentes said after Monday's 2-1 home defeat by Swansea he wanted assurances the club want to progress to the next level having dropped out of the Premier League ten years ago.

The Spaniard said: “The supporters since I first came here have been amazing.

“But I would like to give them something else and not just celebrate another season in the Championship."

QPR play already-promoted Burnley at home on Saturday before a trip to play-off bound Sunderland on the final day.

Cifuentes had previously targeted surpassing last season's points total of 56 and the Rs are one win away from matching that.

QPR are 15th in the Championship after losing to Swansea on Monday"


To be honest, the headline is completely at ODDS with the report. It's a rehash of the West London Sport recent piece on their site.

I don't think we have anything to concern ourselves with here. He has said he wants to be here and the Sun are just looking at possible reasons why he may not, with absolutely zero evidence that this is indeed the case !!! Unusual that for this journalistic masterpiece of a factsheet !!!

Sorry chaps for regurgitating such nonsense. Blame me !!!
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Thoroughbreds v Carthorses !!
at 05:57 22 Apr 2025

An analogy i would say comparing 70s and 80s football to that of the modern era.

In the past, you could claim players were like old cart horses, out of shape, but could keep on battling in fair weather and when the weather was not so kind. Old cart horses could be relied upon what ever the weather and playing conditions threw at them.

Today, players are primed for maximum performance, the aim is to be muscled yet with as near to zero body fat percentages, however the slightest twist and the muscle injuries arrive and it's impossible to carry on. So in these circumstances you could claim players are more like trained thoroughbreds, in that they are supposedly schooled to maintain optimum power, pace, agility and control, but the caveat being they are one step away from a twist or turn the wrong way and that's them done. Temperament issues abound also. Very highly strung are our thoroughbred boys and girls.

With all this data around, surely there also needs to be more thinking arounds prevention of so many injuries, in the way that data is interpreted so players are primed for performance with a need for durability also.

But then supposedly this what the performance data teams are supposed to effect.

However, also what needs to be factored in is the human element.

Players sometimes phone in performances and the ability to motivate such players needs to be included. And this is where the data teams then have zero relevance, as given this is as a number is completely subjective. Ie you have no clue with some players, what sort of version of themselves, you will get on any given day, but that's an element of the modern day that is just as important.

The "old duracell" adverts come to mind - endurance, stamina and reliability !!

In effect, you want to find a couple of "Eberechi Eze's" blended in nicely with an effective number of "Johan Barbet's" and add to the mix a sprinkling of "Jamie Mackie's".

You need your "Stanley Bowles" ", mixed in with your "Dave Clements" and a dose of your "Dave Thomas's" to boot.

It's as simple as that !!

"Data teams / Performance teams - Thats aĺl you need to do - it's over to you !!"
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Home game availability as one off tickets ???
at 10:18 12 Apr 2025

I am considering next season not having a home season ticket as I can't justify cost going up 23 times a season.

Worked out it's about 16 visits that justifies the cost of a season ticket.

But probably going forwards am likely only go up ten times a season going forwards.

Just asking, as is it quite straightforward to always be able to purchase home tickets in advance easily for whichever game you want to attend ????

Think I would quite enjoy viewing games from different parts of the stadium also..
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Anyone old enough to remember Stan Bowles in the bookies before games
at 10:11 12 Apr 2025

Was just thinking as read that Stan used to have a last minute bet on races half hour before the games.

Was this actually true ???

As can't understand that he would not have been mobbed by fans whilst doing this.

Yes i know it's a different era and maybe all just left him to it.

As I know from living in Portsmouth in the late 80s and early 90s, Alan Ball was Portsmouth manager back then and I was often in the bookies when he would randomly pop in watch his race, screw up his betting slip and come back in another day and everyone left him alone.

It wasn't done on match days though.

Was just wondering those that are old enough, do they remember Stan being in the bookies before the game and was he left to his viewing pleasures on his own or did the fans circle around him..

If these things happened today, I reckon people would be after selfies , a chat and God knows what !!!

Different times...
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