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Reply | Add your name to the list in support of a Trust EGM regarding main board rep
at 14:40 5 Jun 2025
To update those on here who have been in contact.
Today, the application for a special meeting of the Trust was emailed to the Trust board.
This letter has been supported by 3 founder members, 4 ex Chairs and a number of former Trust board members.
Although we understand that the Trust Model Rules require the request to be sent as a hard copy to Holyoake House, Hanover St., Manchester, we hope that common sense prevails and an electronic application is accepted, particularly given that the rules have not been revisited since 2018.
Emphasis has been placed on the non-confrontational approach from this group.
We now hope to hear from the Trust, giving at least 14 clear days notice of the meeting date, that meeting date being no later than 12th July.
We have also asked for the nomination process be paused while the meeting takes place. |
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Reply | Add your name to the list in support of a Trust EGM regarding main board rep
at 19:08 30 May 2025
Thanks to everyone who has put their name down, it’s encouraging people want to get involved. It’s all to easy to say I won’t bother with the trust, but the passed has shown us it’s important and engagement is a good thing.
Another 5 names and the threshold would be hit. Please put your name forward if you haven’t already |
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Reply | Election of new Trust main board director
at 00:20 29 May 2025
The CAB model could very well be a regulatory requirement very soon and trusts up and down the country will be looking how the address this.
We should be thankful we have a board with the foresight to implement it, and with the trust give two spaces it should be embraced. It gives vehicle to formally engage with the board, without relying on them playing lip service, something previous boards in recent years were sometimes guilty.
It also releases the trust director from the added complication of confidentiality. They can take their place in the boardroom to help knowing that scrutiny and due diligence is being done by others. If the trust director role is being offered by the Ogdens should the trust not ask what they want they would want, in order to get the most out of it? The best of both worlds, scrutiny, influence and engagement, as well as long term security with the golden share.
And it answer to sandymans point of not letting our guard down, the trust director being at the table can observe, and ensure the CAB are getting the correct picture.
That’s even more of an incentive for members to engage with the trust and vice versa. [Post edited 29 May 0:30]
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Reply | Add your name to the list in support of a Trust EGM regarding main board rep
at 22:49 28 May 2025
5% of the adult membership would trigger a meeting.
Based on the fact 684 votes were sent out for the director vote I would say that’s a good yard stick for the number adult members.
That’s 35 members that need to sign. If it can get 40 that would be equivalent of 800 members. |
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Reply | Election of new Trust main board director
at 13:30 28 May 2025
But members have the right to ask for debate.
The vote was only to ask if members still want a director. I want debate on the remit that the director is elected.
Members can decide they don’t like the approach to the election, do nothing and not renew. It’s their choice. But we can’t moan when the trust doesn’t listen or doesn’t continue to exist.
The trust is a democratic body and needs input. The mechanism is there to encourage debate. Surely it’s better as a member to let you views be known and listen to the views of others , rather than to turn away and watch from the sidelines.
This thread has shown some healthy views. I think it would be a good thing to hear others. [Post edited 28 May 14:30]
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Reply | Election of new Trust main board director
at 12:30 28 May 2025
I think the discussion needs to be around the remit/role of the supporters trusts latest rules representative to the board of directors in order to set out what people are voting for.
Of this can be discussed at a meeting in my opinion that be healthy. After all isn’t that the point this thread was started?
Yes the vote was in favour of a director, but that does change the fact the process of electing them needs to be looked at. If no one bothers then someone will be elected by depoll. But then we can’t moan if we don’t like the result.
Agreed George was a massive loss, as others were before. [Post edited 28 May 12:34]
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Reply | Election of new Trust main board director
at 12:04 28 May 2025
The supporters trusts latest rules are available to all members here:
https://mutuals.fca.org.uk/Search/Society/3185
The latest articles set out in rule 332that a special general meeting can be requested by 5% of members or 20 whichever is greater.
It should be submitted in writing to the trust board with a clear statement of what needs to be discussed.
Rule 33 sets out the trust must hold a meeting within 28 days.
Not sure how many adult members there are , but 694 emails were sent out so 35 members would be needed.
Calling a meeting should not be seen as negative thing, it is a desire for members to discuss a particular issue. However it also needs commitment from the members to engage.
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Reply | Election of new Trust main board director
at 11:54 28 May 2025
💯 engagement is a healthy thing. If members feel something needs to be discussed aporoaching the trust should be the first course of action.
However if this is not reciprocated then disillusionment and people both bothering will happen, or even worse they vent their frustration negatively. |
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Reply | Election of new Trust main board director
at 10:13 28 May 2025
That’s 💯 correct. Trusts grow stronger by their members feeling they are being represented. This is a two way street with member engagement vital.
I do feel the trust on the whole do a good job, and when it’s not fighting Morton house or trying to help stop liquidation it’s a harder sell.
But if members aren’t getting updates that being sent out or feel there isn’t the point to engage then it becomes more of an upward battle. |
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Reply | Election of new Trust main board director
at 09:46 28 May 2025
Talking Sutty your views on this, perfectly reasonable should be ringing alarm bells within the trust. If members feel they are not being represented or not kept informed and instead feel the need to not bother rejoining then it can only hurt the trust long term. The past has taught us we need an independent body, and while it will never be perfect, it should be there as a means to immobilise fans when required.
The CAB will be a working group of multi stakeholders representing from the community groups, different demographics within the fan base and including the trust. It’s a shadow board embodying fam representation.
It’s allowing the board to set out its objectives and proposals for them to be scrutinised and advised by as wide spectrum of the fanbase. It will hopefully give an opportunity to fans who don’t feel the trust is not for them to be heard.
It won’t replace the trust, who will continue with the good work they do and enjoy a healthy relationship with the board. Indeed the trust will play an active part in the CAB. [Post edited 28 May 9:55]
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Reply | Election of new Trust main board director
at 11:37 26 May 2025
To be fair I get regular emails, at least once a month and often two.
I don’t think. It’s they have suddenly stopped sending them, but there appears to be an issue. I would contact the trust and get them to check your email address. [Post edited 26 May 11:39]
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Reply | Election of new Trust main board director
at 15:43 25 May 2025
We don’t know? But how can i choose to nominate someone or vote to elect someone if I’m not sure what I’m supposed to do? [Post edited 25 May 16:21]
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