| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... 16:15 - Jan 11 with 14182 views | MyFinalHeaven |
Then it's even more certain that we're going to go down. If not this season, then the next.
Olsson is a player who has been linked with us in every window since 2014. And every time there was news about our interest in him, I dreaded it. In the 7 seasons he has played in the Premier League he has never proven that he is good enough. It's very telling that no less than 3 TIMES has a club been relegated with him as their starting left back: in the 11/12 season with Blackburn, in the 12/13 season with Norwich, and again with Norwich last season. Currently, he's hardly cutting it in the Championship.
I've been very vocal about my displeasure of seeing Neil Taylor week in and week out in the teamsheet and the need for this to be changed, but Martin Olsson should not be the one to take his place. This is an upgrade in the sense that a piece of shÃt has had a little sugar sprinkled on it. It's a completely negligible upgrade. Even as unbelievably atrocious as Taylor is, Olsson is hardly better.
The fact that we bought him, and paid £5m no less, is utterly fvcking ridiculous. If this is the kind of player we're going to sign, then it's crystal clear that Huw Jenkins has learned absolutely nothing from his mistakes. Still, we're throwing money at lower league players who aren't good enough at this level, and still, our recruitment is as pathetic as ever.
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| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:37 - Jan 11 with 3324 views | jasper_T |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 17:32 - Jan 11 by AussieSwan |
I was wondering where Buttner had gone. He would've been a great signing on a free
If we're in for Narsingh I still would have asked PSV what they were after for Jetro Willems. He would have been a fantastic signing
But Olsson is better than Taylor so I'll take it. If we can get 5m for Taylor at WBA or Palace then it looks like a good deal |
No fckin chance we get £5m for Taylor.
He's going to be here till his contract runs out. |  | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:39 - Jan 11 with 3296 views | Concerned_Parent |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:21 - Jan 11 by Neath_Jack |
So why hasn't another premier league team snapped him up then, if he's so good like? |
just because he's been without a club since July it means absolutely anything. Lassana Diarra was unattached for MONTHS after he left and served a year long suspension for beach of contract with Lokomotiv Moscow, and Marseille were the only ones willing to take a punt on him. since then he's been one of the best midfielders in France and it was reported this month that Mourinho is interested in bringing him to Man U [Post edited 11 Jan 2017 18:41]
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| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:42 - Jan 11 with 3272 views | raynor94 |
85 appearances in ten years, a model of consistency |  |
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| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:43 - Jan 11 with 3263 views | dobjack2 |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:22 - Jan 11 by MyFinalHeaven |
Agreed. Did we really go through all the trouble and money of hiring a football analytics expert (Dan Altman) to help us on transfers and identify new targets, only to sign the same crappy players we were interested in for years?
Proper incredible stuff. It really beggars belief. |
Surely if Altman is backing the signings then we have identified good acquisitions but not signed them previously. | | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:44 - Jan 11 with 3243 views | morningstar |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:24 - Jan 11 by Starsky |
I for one am going to reserve judgement on Olsson until hes played a few games for us.
I don't think we can expect top notch signings when we're entrenched in the relegation zone. |
well i'm going to reserve judgement on Olsson until we actually sign him. so far that's all we have are dodgy newspaper reports , twitter rumours and over 100 posts on here spread out over 2 threads. |  |
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| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:47 - Jan 11 with 3220 views | KrisP |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:34 - Jan 11 by Starsky |
Yep
Can you imagine if we signed a Spanish league 2 full back and get 10 years service for 10k
There'd be uproar |
If he was that good why hasn't someone else signed him before us, huh? | | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:48 - Jan 11 with 3208 views | TheResurrection |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:39 - Jan 11 by Concerned_Parent |
just because he's been without a club since July it means absolutely anything. Lassana Diarra was unattached for MONTHS after he left and served a year long suspension for beach of contract with Lokomotiv Moscow, and Marseille were the only ones willing to take a punt on him. since then he's been one of the best midfielders in France and it was reported this month that Mourinho is interested in bringing him to Man U [Post edited 11 Jan 2017 18:41]
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You're missing the point.
Spectacularly.
And the fact no other team in world football has come in for him is not the only thing. How do you know he wants to come and play in England/Wales?
Maybe he's made that quite clear.
It's pathetic plucking out big names from a hat with no other knowledge than they were once great players. |  |
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| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:48 - Jan 11 with 3198 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:43 - Jan 11 by dobjack2 |
Surely if Altman is backing the signings then we have identified good acquisitions but not signed them previously. |
Or Altman likes his cosy job where he gets to play moneyball and isn't going to speak against Jenkins. |  |
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| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:03 - Jan 11 with 3141 views | Concerned_Parent |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:48 - Jan 11 by TheResurrection |
You're missing the point.
Spectacularly.
And the fact no other team in world football has come in for him is not the only thing. How do you know he wants to come and play in England/Wales?
Maybe he's made that quite clear.
It's pathetic plucking out big names from a hat with no other knowledge than they were once great players. |
you've failed to do your research
spectacularly
it was reported a few months ago that there were 4 premier league clubs interested in him including us (the other 3 were sunderland, southampton, and west brom), as well as fiorentina and roma
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/sunderland-southampton-amon
http://www.around-j.com/fiorentina-step-intterest-martin-caceres/
http://romapress.us/2016/07/01/19788/
it's pathetic that you would talk about such players like this and how we should count him out when you know absolutely nothing about him and have never even seen him play. i would suggest next time that you keep your mouth shut | | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:07 - Jan 11 with 3101 views | jack247 |
Underwhelming. Probably an upgrade on Taylor, but not the sort of signing that's going to make a lot of difference.
This is the sort of signing we should be making on deadline day when we have sorted the important business out. | | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:13 - Jan 11 with 3045 views | CambJack |
One thing free agents are notorious for these days is HUGE signing on fees and wage demands (see Gomis, Ayew) so Id imagine that is the reason we, and other clubs haven't considered him. He might be unattached, but that doesn't mean he's cheap. |  | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:17 - Jan 11 with 3013 views | FerrieBodde |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:48 - Jan 11 by TheResurrection |
You're missing the point.
Spectacularly.
And the fact no other team in world football has come in for him is not the only thing. How do you know he wants to come and play in England/Wales?
Maybe he's made that quite clear.
It's pathetic plucking out big names from a hat with no other knowledge than they were once great players. |
How do you know he doesn't want to come to play in England/Wales? So you're his agent now all of a sudden? Congrats to you for finding a job. I thought you'd spend the remainder of your days continuing to post utter rubbish here and going on ad infinitum about how Sigurdsson needs to be dropped and sold.
For the record, I think Caceres is a quality player, and our squad could REALLY use a utility guy who can play as a cb, lb, and rb, a la Lahm and Azpilicueta. He has been linked with many clubs since he left Juve and continues to be pursued by teams. As it stands, it seems like he's merely considering his options and taking his time to decide what's best for him. |  | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:20 - Jan 11 with 2994 views | dobjack2 |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:48 - Jan 11 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Or Altman likes his cosy job where he gets to play moneyball and isn't going to speak against Jenkins. |
My previous post was a bit tongue in cheek. All he would appear to have, like Clement is input, so far it seems nothing has really changed Jenkins has the final say | | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:26 - Jan 11 with 2960 views | Dyfnant |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:07 - Jan 11 by jack247 |
Underwhelming. Probably an upgrade on Taylor, but not the sort of signing that's going to make a lot of difference.
This is the sort of signing we should be making on deadline day when we have sorted the important business out. |
Have to disagree. If he can stop some crosses coming in and actually pass the ball forward to one of our players it will make a huge difference. |  |
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| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:28 - Jan 11 with 2947 views | FerrieBodde |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:13 - Jan 11 by CambJack |
One thing free agents are notorious for these days is HUGE signing on fees and wage demands (see Gomis, Ayew) so Id imagine that is the reason we, and other clubs haven't considered him. He might be unattached, but that doesn't mean he's cheap. |
Just because we continually let agents bully us, decide to give signing on fees to free agents, and pay the most exorbitant transfer prices and wages for the crappiest of players, it doesn't mean that the rest of the football world is doing it. Most free agents actually sign without signing on fees. Even high profile ones often sign without getting a nice chunk of money--in recent seasons Fuchs went to Leicester, van der Wiel went to Fenerbahce, and Konoplyanka went to Sevilla all for free with no signing fee. | | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:29 - Jan 11 with 2548 views | nantywatcher |
Apart from me is anyone on this thread over 12 years old? | | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:38 - Jan 11 with 2533 views | MyFinalHeaven |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:42 - Jan 11 by raynor94 |
85 appearances in ten years, a model of consistency |
Not sure what statistics you're looking at. Since the 07/08 season he's made 224 total club appearances. It's a pretty good number considering he had some injuries and was playing for Barcelona, Sevilla, and Juventus where he was competing with arguably the best defenders in the world. | |
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| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:50 - Jan 11 with 2495 views | Neath_Jack |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:39 - Jan 11 by Concerned_Parent |
just because he's been without a club since July it means absolutely anything. Lassana Diarra was unattached for MONTHS after he left and served a year long suspension for beach of contract with Lokomotiv Moscow, and Marseille were the only ones willing to take a punt on him. since then he's been one of the best midfielders in France and it was reported this month that Mourinho is interested in bringing him to Man U [Post edited 11 Jan 2017 18:41]
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Ah right, my mistake then.
It's just one would assume that if a player is as good as you and the other oddball is making out, then he would not be without a club for very many days.
I was obviously wrong. |  |
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| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 20:00 - Jan 11 with 2477 views | TheResurrection |
WTF does that prove?
Absolutely nothing.
The fact still remains he's still without a club. Who knows what the real reasons behind that are but if it was straightforward surely to God a player of his calibre would've gone somewhere by now??
Using him as a stick to beat anything with is a tad desperate old boy? | |
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| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 20:03 - Jan 11 with 2460 views | jasper_T |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:26 - Jan 11 by Dyfnant |
Have to disagree. If he can stop some crosses coming in and actually pass the ball forward to one of our players it will make a huge difference. |
Some big assumptions here. Hope they pay off. | | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 20:10 - Jan 11 with 2447 views | Concerned_Parent |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 20:00 - Jan 11 by TheResurrection |
WTF does that prove?
Absolutely nothing.
The fact still remains he's still without a club. Who knows what the real reasons behind that are but if it was straightforward surely to God a player of his calibre would've gone somewhere by now??
Using him as a stick to beat anything with is a tad desperate old boy? |
"WTF does that prove?
Absolutely nothing."
that you're wrong. do you not remember what you said?
"And the fact no other team in world football has come in for him is not the only thing."
dear oh dear. it's no sense arguing with a kid who can't even remember the last thing he said | | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 20:16 - Jan 11 with 2416 views | MyFinalHeaven |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 19:50 - Jan 11 by Neath_Jack |
Ah right, my mistake then.
It's just one would assume that if a player is as good as you and the other oddball is making out, then he would not be without a club for very many days.
I was obviously wrong. |
Diarra isn't the only one. Anichebe had been without a club since last May and since coming to Sunderland recently he's been somewhat of a revelation. In 8 starts as a winger he's already scored more goals (3) than Barrow, Routledge, Dyer, and Montero combined, and against clubs who beat us convincingly (Bournemouth and Hull). We could have really used him. | |
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| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 20:28 - Jan 11 with 2379 views | TheResurrection |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 20:10 - Jan 11 by Concerned_Parent |
"WTF does that prove?
Absolutely nothing."
that you're wrong. do you not remember what you said?
"And the fact no other team in world football has come in for him is not the only thing."
dear oh dear. it's no sense arguing with a kid who can't even remember the last thing he said |
Have I missed something then? Like in the last half hour? Has he joined a club in that time?? | |
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| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 20:55 - Jan 11 with 2307 views | londonlisa2001 |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:48 - Jan 11 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Or Altman likes his cosy job where he gets to play moneyball and isn't going to speak against Jenkins. |
Rumour has it that's quite a long way from the truth Dwight. | | | |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 20:59 - Jan 11 with 2290 views | londonlisa2001 |
| If Martin Olsson is the kind of player we're going to sign... on 18:37 - Jan 11 by jasper_T |
No fckin chance we get £5m for Taylor.
He's going to be here till his contract runs out. |
Well he may be now.
Until yesterday it was unlikely. | | | |
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