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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:13 - Feb 15 by Flashberryjack
Death penalty for drug dealers (in possession of a certain amount) would help.
Never going to happen though.
Nice as the idea is, the potential profits involved will ensure a neverending queue of people wanting to get involved.
Legalise, control, tax. Pour tax revenues into rehabilitation. Vastly increase the judicial penalties for offences committed by addicts outside offical rehabilitiation programmes. Ramp up the training and educational opportunities for those engaging in rehabilitation efforts.
I've spent the best part of 20 years dealing with the problems of heroin addiction and the processes in place now just aren't working.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:21 - Feb 15 with 9071 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:19 - Feb 15 by Dr_Winston
Nice as the idea is, the potential profits involved will ensure a neverending queue of people wanting to get involved.
Legalise, control, tax. Pour tax revenues into rehabilitation. Vastly increase the judicial penalties for offences committed by addicts outside offical rehabilitiation programmes. Ramp up the training and educational opportunities for those engaging in rehabilitation efforts.
I've spent the best part of 20 years dealing with the problems of heroin addiction and the processes in place now just aren't working.
There aren’t many times I’ve said this over the years. Completely agree with all that. Apart from the death thing being a “nice idea” of course.
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:19 - Feb 15 by Dr_Winston
Nice as the idea is, the potential profits involved will ensure a neverending queue of people wanting to get involved.
Legalise, control, tax. Pour tax revenues into rehabilitation. Vastly increase the judicial penalties for offences committed by addicts outside offical rehabilitiation programmes. Ramp up the training and educational opportunities for those engaging in rehabilitation efforts.
I've spent the best part of 20 years dealing with the problems of heroin addiction and the processes in place now just aren't working.
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:21 - Feb 15 by exiledclaseboy
There aren’t many times I’ve said this over the years. Completely agree with all that. Apart from the death thing being a “nice idea” of course.
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Your views on the death penalty are reasonable and respectable.
I despise heroin dealers however, and would regret their deaths no more than I do than the germs who peg it each time I pour Domestos down the toilet bowl.
Actually, upon contemplation I have more sympathy for the germs. They're just doing what germs do. Smack dealers make the choice to become smack dealers.
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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:30 - Feb 15 with 9011 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:34 - Feb 15 by getcarter
One of them is a Polish bird from the smoke, she came down to peddle after the other so called Londoners got nicked.
Good criminals those Poles. They are dead pan, straight and stony faced. They show no emotion so won't fold when taken in for questioning. Same expression when climaxing as to when seeing family members slaughtered. Tough.
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:40 - Feb 15 with 8960 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:19 - Feb 15 by Dr_Winston
Nice as the idea is, the potential profits involved will ensure a neverending queue of people wanting to get involved.
Legalise, control, tax. Pour tax revenues into rehabilitation. Vastly increase the judicial penalties for offences committed by addicts outside offical rehabilitiation programmes. Ramp up the training and educational opportunities for those engaging in rehabilitation efforts.
I've spent the best part of 20 years dealing with the problems of heroin addiction and the processes in place now just aren't working.
Spot on Dr W. Addiction is an illness, a disease, and the amount of funding needed to combat the problems created would way outstrip this nation's GDP, if we do not educate children from an early age. In my work I see videos that would make young people think twice about experimenting, the trouble is that these videos are aimed at people already in the grips of addiction. We need a new approach to tackling this problem - NOW!!
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:42 - Feb 15 with 8956 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:40 - Feb 15 by dickythorpe
Good criminals those Poles. They are dead pan, straight and stony faced. They show no emotion so won't fold when taken in for questioning. Same expression when climaxing as to when seeing family members slaughtered. Tough.
Girl number 1 has to be without doubt the Pole. Showing the same expression in Cockett police station photo booth as she'd have pegging a Tory MP in a London dungeon.
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:47 - Feb 15 with 8935 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:19 - Feb 15 by Dr_Winston
Nice as the idea is, the potential profits involved will ensure a neverending queue of people wanting to get involved.
Legalise, control, tax. Pour tax revenues into rehabilitation. Vastly increase the judicial penalties for offences committed by addicts outside offical rehabilitiation programmes. Ramp up the training and educational opportunities for those engaging in rehabilitation efforts.
I've spent the best part of 20 years dealing with the problems of heroin addiction and the processes in place now just aren't working.
Agree 100%. Decriminalisation , legalisation and control has worked wherever it's been tried.The problems arise not from the drug itself, but from the impurities the drugs are mixed with when they are cut
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:48 - Feb 15 with 8933 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:40 - Feb 15 by nantywatcher
Spot on Dr W. Addiction is an illness, a disease, and the amount of funding needed to combat the problems created would way outstrip this nation's GDP, if we do not educate children from an early age. In my work I see videos that would make young people think twice about experimenting, the trouble is that these videos are aimed at people already in the grips of addiction. We need a new approach to tackling this problem - NOW!!
The education thing I have a bit of a problem with.
There surely can't be anyone out there, regardless of age now who can claim ignorance of how horrible a Heroin addiction is, yet people keep trying it anyway. If you're dumb enough to get hooked on it, then that's your own fault.
I would offer the chance to kick the addiction, and plenty of support to do so, at least once, Anyone refusing that offer should be absolutely f*cking slammed by the courts.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:52 - Feb 15 with 8892 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:19 - Feb 15 by Dr_Winston
Nice as the idea is, the potential profits involved will ensure a neverending queue of people wanting to get involved.
Legalise, control, tax. Pour tax revenues into rehabilitation. Vastly increase the judicial penalties for offences committed by addicts outside offical rehabilitiation programmes. Ramp up the training and educational opportunities for those engaging in rehabilitation efforts.
I've spent the best part of 20 years dealing with the problems of heroin addiction and the processes in place now just aren't working.
Can’t agree with legalising heroin use, what message does that send to our young people? There are still a lot of people in this country who do not turn to drugs because it is a criminal offence, take away that scenario and it will increase drug use considerably, in my opinion.
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:56 - Feb 15 with 8905 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:52 - Feb 15 by lifelong
Can’t agree with legalising heroin use, what message does that send to our young people? There are still a lot of people in this country who do not turn to drugs because it is a criminal offence, take away that scenario and it will increase drug use considerably, in my opinion.
Those who don't turn to Heroin won't whether it's legal or not.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 22:04 - Feb 15 with 8870 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 21:48 - Feb 15 by Dr_Winston
The education thing I have a bit of a problem with.
There surely can't be anyone out there, regardless of age now who can claim ignorance of how horrible a Heroin addiction is, yet people keep trying it anyway. If you're dumb enough to get hooked on it, then that's your own fault.
I would offer the chance to kick the addiction, and plenty of support to do so, at least once, Anyone refusing that offer should be absolutely f*cking slammed by the courts.
Strongly disagree. People get drawn into that life because they are confident they have the ability and willpower to experiment and walk away. And of course in the early days, dealers make sure it's as cheap, or cheaper, than chips. Knowledge generated needs to be hard hitting, it's not until people are wrapped up in addiction that they recognise their personal weaknesses. I've met some extremely intelligent addicts who find it almost impossible to explain how they got sucked into their addiction. It's extremely harsh to write people off merely because they have been drawn into a life that they were not educated and prepared to cope with.
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 22:10 - Feb 15 with 8850 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 22:04 - Feb 15 by nantywatcher
Strongly disagree. People get drawn into that life because they are confident they have the ability and willpower to experiment and walk away. And of course in the early days, dealers make sure it's as cheap, or cheaper, than chips. Knowledge generated needs to be hard hitting, it's not until people are wrapped up in addiction that they recognise their personal weaknesses. I've met some extremely intelligent addicts who find it almost impossible to explain how they got sucked into their addiction. It's extremely harsh to write people off merely because they have been drawn into a life that they were not educated and prepared to cope with.
Tough shit.
I don't care how smart you are. By now there should be no doubt that getting involved with Heroin is a bad idea. There's plenty of education out there and unless you're a complete idiot (which is possible) then claiming ignorance of the dangers is an excuse that just doesn't wash with me.
If you're arrogant enough to believe that it won't happen to you then that just doubles it down.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 09:23 - Feb 16 with 8584 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 22:04 - Feb 15 by nantywatcher
Strongly disagree. People get drawn into that life because they are confident they have the ability and willpower to experiment and walk away. And of course in the early days, dealers make sure it's as cheap, or cheaper, than chips. Knowledge generated needs to be hard hitting, it's not until people are wrapped up in addiction that they recognise their personal weaknesses. I've met some extremely intelligent addicts who find it almost impossible to explain how they got sucked into their addiction. It's extremely harsh to write people off merely because they have been drawn into a life that they were not educated and prepared to cope with.
Every drug addict or alcoholic has or has had problems prior to their addiction. The drug taking is basically to try and escape their problems for a while
It's not the case of experimenting or being drawn into that world or indeed starting off on a gateway drug - there is no such thing, they make a choice to start taking these substances and can quite easily stop if given the correct help and support, and a prison cell is not the answer
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 09:27 - Feb 16 with 8564 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 09:27 - Feb 16 by perchrockjack
Yet,most take on life s ups and downs and front up as best they can instead of taking the easy way out in drugs .
Drug addicts make a choice . Victims of their crimes ,to feed their habit, do not.
It's not little ups and downs, many have problems that go far deeper than that.
Victims of their crime, if it was legalised and controlled there would be reason to resort to crime, and it would put the dealers out of business virtually overnight
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Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 10:03 - Feb 16 with 8525 views
Drugs map of Britain BBC1 last night - Swansea heroin on 09:27 - Feb 16 by perchrockjack
Yet,most take on life s ups and downs and front up as best they can instead of taking the easy way out in drugs .
Drug addicts make a choice . Victims of their crimes ,to feed their habit, do not.
Way off the mark Perch. The majority of heroin addicts slip down into that world that starts with LEGAL highs, cannabis. Heroin is brilliant in relieving trauma, the trouble is the trauma never goes away just buries itself even deeper. This is very much linked to the Barry Bennel thread and there will undoubtedly be amongst his victims young men whose addictions will be directly influenced by his abuse. It's way too glib to put addicts into one neat big box and dismiss them and their lives, and to infer that payment for their drugs comes about ONLY through criminal activity is nonsense.
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