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Lotto News 11:16 - May 21 with 36620 viewsJames1980

https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2020/may/dale-lotto_important-information/

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Lotto News on 12:06 - May 27 with 3242 viewsReedy

So I’ve received my letter today as a member stating it’s going direct debit. One thing that confuses me is that the return address on the envelope is for an PO BOX in Bath of all places, and the return free post envelope has no address on it, I imagine this will confuse a lot of people as they won’t know whether to send it to the club or the return address in Bath?

Is this just mine or have others received the same?

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Lotto News on 15:02 - May 27 with 3123 viewsjudd

Lotto News on 12:06 - May 27 by Reedy

So I’ve received my letter today as a member stating it’s going direct debit. One thing that confuses me is that the return address on the envelope is for an PO BOX in Bath of all places, and the return free post envelope has no address on it, I imagine this will confuse a lot of people as they won’t know whether to send it to the club or the return address in Bath?

Is this just mine or have others received the same?


Received my commission cheques but nothing else as a customer or agent.

Thanks for sorting it Ray.

Reading your post Reedy, sounds like it's not summat that has been sorted out overnight, does it?

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Lotto News on 16:24 - May 27 with 3063 viewsReedy

Lotto News on 15:02 - May 27 by judd

Received my commission cheques but nothing else as a customer or agent.

Thanks for sorting it Ray.

Reading your post Reedy, sounds like it's not summat that has been sorted out overnight, does it?


From what I can gather:

The lotteries manager was furloughed (as millions have been so nothing strange in that)
The club then take the decision to sack all agents, with no input from the lotteries manager or anyone else for that matter.
Club then put the article on the website regarding the sacking of agents with no one having prior knowledge, even those who work at the club.

In my opinion, this has been planned for a long time (we all had suspicions of this) and the pandemic has given them a suitable excuse to hide behind.

For the record I’m going to see my members to see who would be willing to go with DD and who will stop when (if) the doorstep collections stop. I will report back.

My missus (who doesn’t really have an interest in football) showed me a thread of comments on a Facebook page. It was a member saying how disgusted he was that this decision had been made and he won’t be taking up there offer, this didn’t really surprise me. But the amount of people below saying they wouldn’t do it anymore was surprising. The most telling comment was a conversation between a member and their agent, the member said and I quote:

“Please cancel mine, if you can no longer collect my money they can lose my custom. My loyalty is to you. Let’s hope everyone cancels”

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Lotto News on 16:42 - May 27 with 3041 viewsDaleiLama

Lotto News on 16:24 - May 27 by Reedy

From what I can gather:

The lotteries manager was furloughed (as millions have been so nothing strange in that)
The club then take the decision to sack all agents, with no input from the lotteries manager or anyone else for that matter.
Club then put the article on the website regarding the sacking of agents with no one having prior knowledge, even those who work at the club.

In my opinion, this has been planned for a long time (we all had suspicions of this) and the pandemic has given them a suitable excuse to hide behind.

For the record I’m going to see my members to see who would be willing to go with DD and who will stop when (if) the doorstep collections stop. I will report back.

My missus (who doesn’t really have an interest in football) showed me a thread of comments on a Facebook page. It was a member saying how disgusted he was that this decision had been made and he won’t be taking up there offer, this didn’t really surprise me. But the amount of people below saying they wouldn’t do it anymore was surprising. The most telling comment was a conversation between a member and their agent, the member said and I quote:

“Please cancel mine, if you can no longer collect my money they can lose my custom. My loyalty is to you. Let’s hope everyone cancels”


Been in sales for quite a few years now, and anyone else who has should not need the importance of the relationship with the customer explaining to them. Erm ……..

Another great truism is that a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. Even a cursory glance at the virtuous circle below to anyone in a commercial role should show that the funnel should be widened at the evaluation of buying options, not restricted.



Still scratching my noggin at this one and await comments from the club via the Trust to justify it. Hope they don't have Cummings spin or BoJo straight bat associated with them.
[Post edited 27 May 2020 16:43]

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Lotto News on 17:13 - May 27 with 2992 viewsRaymondJohn

Reedy the doorstop collection s have stopped mate, please dont colle t any more but by all.means convertvto direct debit.
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Lotto News on 19:59 - May 27 with 2892 viewsMIlnrowdale

Been collecting goldbond for about 15 years and around the smallbridge area and Littleborough must admit I will miss it a bit, used to enjoy my chats with customers, massive thanks to Pete Woodhouse, Phil, Alistair, winnard who helped show me on my rounds and for everything else they have done, and Ray who took over and is still at the club so hope your back in employment soon pal
[Post edited 27 May 2020 20:00]
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Lotto News on 20:25 - May 27 with 2851 viewsjudd

Lotto News on 16:42 - May 27 by DaleiLama

Been in sales for quite a few years now, and anyone else who has should not need the importance of the relationship with the customer explaining to them. Erm ……..

Another great truism is that a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. Even a cursory glance at the virtuous circle below to anyone in a commercial role should show that the funnel should be widened at the evaluation of buying options, not restricted.



Still scratching my noggin at this one and await comments from the club via the Trust to justify it. Hope they don't have Cummings spin or BoJo straight bat associated with them.
[Post edited 27 May 2020 16:43]


Knock knock

"Who's there?"

"Goldbond"

"Hiya luv, here's your money"

"Thank you,.see you next week"

Knock knock

"Who's there?"

"Direct debit/standing order mandate"

Knock knock

"Direct debit/standing order mandate. Fill me in now."

Knock knock

"How many more times over the course of 15 months do I have to tell you?"

Knock knock

"Direct debit/standing order mandate. You've not filled me in. Do it now else we won't collect your money
"
*Door opens*

"Have you got a form?"

"Here, now fill it in"

*makes paper aeroplane, launches it,.makes V sign, closes door*














Knock knock

"FILL ME IN. FILL ME IN NOW OR ELSE..."

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Lotto News on 08:25 - May 28 with 2710 viewsReedy

Lotto News on 17:13 - May 27 by RaymondJohn

Reedy the doorstop collection s have stopped mate, please dont colle t any more but by all.means convertvto direct debit.


I understand that, but I’m going to check they’ve got their letters and I’m also going to ask if they will be signing up by DD or will cancel.

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Lotto News on 08:32 - May 28 with 2704 viewsjudd

Lotto News on 08:25 - May 28 by Reedy

I understand that, but I’m going to check they’ve got their letters and I’m also going to ask if they will be signing up by DD or will cancel.


I got my letter this morning, from "I" and "we" and it incredibly asks:

"In order for the club to be able to restart the lottery we require a substantial number of members to convert to Direct Debit and I would like to ask for your help and support to spread the word and help us achieve this target"

How else would a collector spread the word to existing members in attempting to convert them without going around them all?

Un-fookin-believable.

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Lotto News on 08:40 - May 28 with 2699 viewsReedy

Lotto News on 08:32 - May 28 by judd

I got my letter this morning, from "I" and "we" and it incredibly asks:

"In order for the club to be able to restart the lottery we require a substantial number of members to convert to Direct Debit and I would like to ask for your help and support to spread the word and help us achieve this target"

How else would a collector spread the word to existing members in attempting to convert them without going around them all?

Un-fookin-believable.


I do think there will be very little (if any) who take up the direct debit option, as it’s been rejected by them all the past.

Shocking that it took a week after the announcement for you to receive your letter. It really couldn’t have been communicated any worse.

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Lotto News on 08:46 - May 28 with 2683 viewsjudd

Lotto News on 08:40 - May 28 by Reedy

I do think there will be very little (if any) who take up the direct debit option, as it’s been rejected by them all the past.

Shocking that it took a week after the announcement for you to receive your letter. It really couldn’t have been communicated any worse.


The club cannot be held responsible for the Royal Mail.

Yesterday I received a letter for another address. These things happen.

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Lotto News on 11:35 - May 28 with 2594 viewsChaffRAFC

https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2020/may/dale-lotto-update_may-2020/

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Lotto News on 13:19 - May 28 with 2505 viewsforeverhopefulDale

Lotto News on 11:35 - May 28 by ChaffRAFC

https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2020/may/dale-lotto-update_may-2020/


“Can I still pay £0.50 per week?

Unfortunately, we no longer accept £0.50 entries into the weekly draw.

Members can either pay £1 per week and receive 2 x entries into the draw, or £2 per week and receive 4 entries into the draw, doubling your chances of winning.”

The sign up form only allows somebody to sign up for £2 a week

https://paymymembership.co.uk/dale/


[Post edited 28 May 2020 13:36]

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Lotto News on 14:20 - May 28 with 2446 views49thseason

Lotto News on 13:19 - May 28 by foreverhopefulDale

“Can I still pay £0.50 per week?

Unfortunately, we no longer accept £0.50 entries into the weekly draw.

Members can either pay £1 per week and receive 2 x entries into the draw, or £2 per week and receive 4 entries into the draw, doubling your chances of winning.”

The sign up form only allows somebody to sign up for £2 a week

https://paymymembership.co.uk/dale/


[Post edited 28 May 2020 13:36]


In a brief moment of lucid thought, I wondered why the Trust couldnt take on the Gold Bond , 50p a week , raffle / draw thingy? All the essential infrastructure ie people , is/are still available and it would definitely strengthen the trust financially and thus give them a better hand to play when dealing with the club.
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Lotto News on 15:29 - May 28 with 2383 viewsRaymondJohn

In your thoughts did peoples employment pass by?.?
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Lotto News on 17:12 - May 28 with 2284 viewsBigDaveMyCock

Lotto News on 14:20 - May 28 by 49thseason

In a brief moment of lucid thought, I wondered why the Trust couldnt take on the Gold Bond , 50p a week , raffle / draw thingy? All the essential infrastructure ie people , is/are still available and it would definitely strengthen the trust financially and thus give them a better hand to play when dealing with the club.


Buying a ticket to support a local football club is one thing, buying a ticket to support a supporters trust of that club is another. Furthermore, I could be wrong here but I suspect that the club will have certain rights re the ‘Gold Bond’ and will unlikely want it competing with its new lottery.
[Post edited 28 May 2020 17:13]

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Lotto News on 19:38 - May 28 with 2182 views49thseason

Lotto News on 15:29 - May 28 by RaymondJohn

In your thoughts did peoples employment pass by?.?


Did you actually read the post? You know the bit where it mentions people already being in place like the dozens of collectors who have just been given the bums rush without so much as a proper thank you? The ones who mostly found out all their years of efforts on cold nights in the pouring rain were actually valued at around sweet F.A. by reading a website rather than by what used to be known as a formal letter with a proper, fulsome thankyou and a cogent explanation of why the decision had been taken? And now we find that the club are asking collectors to do one more round to persuade people to donate £2 a week by DD or similar.
Either someone at the club is seriously diluted or has a very macabre sense of humour. Sadly it seems the club I have supported for the better part of 60 years now is being run with Premiership attitudes and a Sunday League skills set.
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Lotto News on 20:16 - May 28 with 2125 viewsblackdogblue

Lotto News on 20:25 - May 27 by judd

Knock knock

"Who's there?"

"Goldbond"

"Hiya luv, here's your money"

"Thank you,.see you next week"

Knock knock

"Who's there?"

"Direct debit/standing order mandate"

Knock knock

"Direct debit/standing order mandate. Fill me in now."

Knock knock

"How many more times over the course of 15 months do I have to tell you?"

Knock knock

"Direct debit/standing order mandate. You've not filled me in. Do it now else we won't collect your money
"
*Door opens*

"Have you got a form?"

"Here, now fill it in"

*makes paper aeroplane, launches it,.makes V sign, closes door*














Knock knock

"FILL ME IN. FILL ME IN NOW OR ELSE..."


If you get an e mail saying knock knock...

Do not reply....

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Lotto News on 09:17 - May 29 with 2012 viewsStatzdale

Lotto News on 19:38 - May 28 by 49thseason

Did you actually read the post? You know the bit where it mentions people already being in place like the dozens of collectors who have just been given the bums rush without so much as a proper thank you? The ones who mostly found out all their years of efforts on cold nights in the pouring rain were actually valued at around sweet F.A. by reading a website rather than by what used to be known as a formal letter with a proper, fulsome thankyou and a cogent explanation of why the decision had been taken? And now we find that the club are asking collectors to do one more round to persuade people to donate £2 a week by DD or similar.
Either someone at the club is seriously diluted or has a very macabre sense of humour. Sadly it seems the club I have supported for the better part of 60 years now is being run with Premiership attitudes and a Sunday League skills set.


Great Post 👍
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Lotto News on 13:01 - May 29 with 1890 viewsTVOS1907

Lotto News on 13:19 - May 28 by foreverhopefulDale

“Can I still pay £0.50 per week?

Unfortunately, we no longer accept £0.50 entries into the weekly draw.

Members can either pay £1 per week and receive 2 x entries into the draw, or £2 per week and receive 4 entries into the draw, doubling your chances of winning.”

The sign up form only allows somebody to sign up for £2 a week

https://paymymembership.co.uk/dale/


[Post edited 28 May 2020 13:36]


Just received my letter.

There is an option on the form to pay £1 per week for the '2 membership package', which equates to a £53.31 payment to start with, then £52 per year starting in 12 months. That makes mathematical sense. (Apart from the extra £1.31 on the first payment)

To pay £2 per week instead, for the '4 membership package', the respective costs are £106.62 & £104. Again, that works mathematically.

However, if you chose '2 memberships' from the dropdown menu here: https://paymymembership.co.uk/dale/ , the costs are £213.22, then £208.

If you change that on the link to '1 membership, those costs halve.

So, unless I'm missing something, what is defined as '1 membership' on the online link is the same cost as '4 memberships' on the form.

Similar discrepancies occur for other 'memberships'.

It's making my head hurt...
[Post edited 29 May 2020 13:12]

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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Lotto News on 13:11 - May 29 with 1875 viewsjudd

Lotto News on 13:01 - May 29 by TVOS1907

Just received my letter.

There is an option on the form to pay £1 per week for the '2 membership package', which equates to a £53.31 payment to start with, then £52 per year starting in 12 months. That makes mathematical sense. (Apart from the extra £1.31 on the first payment)

To pay £2 per week instead, for the '4 membership package', the respective costs are £106.62 & £104. Again, that works mathematically.

However, if you chose '2 memberships' from the dropdown menu here: https://paymymembership.co.uk/dale/ , the costs are £213.22, then £208.

If you change that on the link to '1 membership, those costs halve.

So, unless I'm missing something, what is defined as '1 membership' on the online link is the same cost as '4 memberships' on the form.

Similar discrepancies occur for other 'memberships'.

It's making my head hurt...
[Post edited 29 May 2020 13:12]


That's what makes it more professional.

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Lotto News on 13:14 - May 29 with 1867 viewsTVOS1907

Lotto News on 13:11 - May 29 by judd

That's what makes it more professional.


That it makes my head hurt?

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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Lotto News on 13:49 - May 29 with 1839 viewsjudd

Lotto News on 13:14 - May 29 by TVOS1907

That it makes my head hurt?


Why are you questioning ME????


Don't you know how hard I work?

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Lotto News on 13:55 - May 29 with 1832 viewsTVOS1907

Lotto News on 13:49 - May 29 by judd

Why are you questioning ME????


Don't you know how hard I work?


Erm, no!

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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Lotto News on 19:37 - May 29 with 1724 viewsonedalefan

Were all the leaflets included with the letters printed upside down on one side?
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