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The officials TONY HARRINGTON Shaun Hudson and Akil Howson Fourth Official : Darren Bond
Steve Cooper interview, clearly been told no mention of Woolmer
Chris Hughton interview, lovely chap
Swansea City record against Forest Games won: 23 Games drawn: 16 Games lost: 26
Over the last ten games the swans have only won twice. The last time was in the play off semi final in May 2011. And you probably recall that quite well. So this trip isn’t the most successful for the swans. Before that Swansea last won at Forest in May 2006. A lively day for those who recall the trip. Fires included - and a wonder goal From Trundle to win the game, but we must not forget Adrian Forbes superb goal to bring the score level.
That play off semi final game
What is a Nottingham ? To understand this you have to ensure your knowledge on Terrence Trent Derby is up to scratch. Terence was a mate of mine in the army, he was from Nottingham, unfortunately being named the same as the local river by the football ground, and the bigger club Derby did meet with some problems.
Not Tin Ham As soon as you break the new name for Nottingham down you get to see the old name. In 1648 before tinned products the area was called Not Tin Ham. Many people used to say this a lot, they didn’t know what it meant until 1823 when tin was invented by a chap called Steve Duffy. Before the people of Not Tin Ham could even comprehend this major change they ran out of ham. Someone, probably an adult suggested they make some tin and they bought some from Steve Duffy who has a shop in Matlock. They put all the ham they could find in foiled wraps of tin. Which at last ensured the local folk would always remember the name of their small town. But only when they ran out of stock. Yes, the true history of Not Tin Ham.
Not Tin Ham yesterday
Supporters of Nottingham Forest seriously do resent being called Notts Forest, as that’s like being Notts County which albeit are in the same city are not a rival due to the fact that’s not a thing. So never say Notts Forest, it offends them all the time and most of all when you say it.
Football news
Notts Forest v Swansea City
PRE-MATCH STATS
Nottingham Forest have only lost one of their last nine league games (W5 D3), with that defeat coming away from home in March 2011 (2-3).
Swansea City are winless in seven away league visits to the City Ground to face Nottingham Forest (D3 L4).
Nottingham Forest manager Chris Hughton has won 26 of his last 37 home matches in the Championship (excl. play-offs), drawing eight and losing three of the other 11.
Swansea City haven’t lost consecutive away league matches since losing seven in a row under Graham Potter between February and April 2019.
Nottingham Forest striker Lyle Taylor is looking to become the first Forest player to score in four consecutive league appearances at the City Ground since Dexter Blackstock in May 2015.
The Independent Mole
Nottingham Forest play host to Swansea City on Sunday afternoon on the back of recording two successive defeats in the Championship. Meanwhile, Swansea make the long trip to the City Ground having won just one of their last four matches, leaving the club four points adrift of leaders Norwich City. However, while 12 points from nine matches is a respectable return, Hughton and the club's fanbase would have expected more from his opening seven weeks in charge.
Forest had been heading in the right direction before the international break, but defeats at Barnsley and Bournemouth have put a negative spin on the progression of Hughton's side.
On a positive note, Forest still sit three points above the relegation zone ahead of back-to-back home fixtures, which represent an opportunity to make progress up the standings. That will only be achieved if Lyle Taylor receives a helping hand in attack with the summer arrival still the only player to score more than once in the league. Swansea are still searching for a solution to their own issues in front of goal, but the work of their backline has kept the club in the playoffs since the start of the season. While only Middlesbrough possess a better defensive record after 13 matches, Swansea find themselves in joint-ninth in the standings for the final third. Steve Cooper will have few complaints while the Welsh outfit remain in the top six, but Andre Ayew has now scored 40% of the club's strikes.
Ayew on form in front of goal, there’s that dodgy ref again
Isaac Independent View
Sunday’s Championship game sees two teams experiencing contrasting seasons go toe-to-toe, as Nottingham Forest welcome Swansea City.MThe hosts have lost their last two games and they remain three points above the bottom three. Barring a huge goal swing, Forest will not drop into the relegation zone with a loss but a defeat will raise concerns once again. Swansea City will rue their draw to Sheffield Wednesday in midweek as they missed the chance to close the gap on the top two.
A loss could see them drop out of the top six entirely if results elsewhere all go against them. A win could see them jump into the automatic promotion spaces if permeations go their way. There is a lot to play for in this clash.
Referee Tony Harrington We have had him already this season, not literally, that’s not football. Harrington began refereeing in the Teesside Junior Football Alliance at the age of 14, having completed a basic refereeing course whilst at school as part of the Duke of Edinburgh award. After four years as an EFL assistant referee and four years as a National League referee, he was appointed to the EFL Referees List in 2012/13 and has now overseen more than 190 EFL matches. Tony is the Grandson of Tommy McGuigan, who is in the Hartlepool United record books for top 10 number of appearances and goals for the club.
Referee’s recent games involving Swansea City The last game he was official for was the 2-1 home defeat to Huddersfield Town. Nothing remarkable happened other than a wasteful day in front of goal for the swans. Prior to that he was the referee last season when the swans won 3- 0 at Middlesbrough. He was also the referee last season for the eventful game on and off the pitch in front of 23,000 at Ashton Gate. In that match he oddly sent off Jake Bidwell.
When did Tony Harrington decide the result of a Swansea City game ? In 2018 Harrington was the referee who awarded those two ridiculous penalties converted by now swans player Ryan Manning. Ryan described the awards as absolutely shocking. Rotherham won the game 2-1. Harrington was never credited with these two assists but what do you think ?
Those two penalty decisions could be described as nothing more than very dodgy
Today’s table shows a simple 1/2/3. Win and the swans go potentially 3rd, probably 4th. Draw and the swans go 5th Lose and the swans stay 7th
Swansea independent prediction Forest 1 Swans 4.
Swansea City fixtures to Boxing Day.
29 Nov. Notts Forest v. Swansea.
02 Dec. Colin v. Swansea
05 Dec. Swansea v. Luton
08 Dec20. Swansea v. Bournemouth
12 Dec. Deluded v. Swansea
16 Dec. Derby v. Swansea
19 Dec. Swansea v. Barnsley
26 Dec. QPR v. Swansea
Team news and latest to follow.
Nottingham Forest: Brice Samba, Cyrus Christie, Tobias Figueiredo, Yuri Ribeiro, Jack Colback (captain), Sammy Ameobi, Miguel Guerrero, Ryan Yates, Scott McKenna, Anthony Knockaert, Lyle Taylor.
Substitutes: Jordan Smith, Loic Soh, Carl Jenkinson, Alex Mighten, Cafu, Joe Lolley, Harry Arter, Nicolas Ioannou, Will Swan.
Swansea City: Freddie Woodman; Kyle Naughton, Ryan Bennett, Marc Guehi; Connor Roberts, Korey Smith, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Jake Bidwell; Andre Ayew, Jamal Lowe.
Substitutes: Steven Benda, Ryan Manning, Jordon Garrick, Ben Cabango, Kasey Palmer, Liam Cullen, Wayne Routledge, Viktor Gyokeres, Yan Dhanda.
Am in favour of freshening it up but reckon Cooper will go with his tried and tested strongest 11 wit Ayew and Lowe spearheading. Vik deserves his chance ahead of Cullen in the squad if fit and well. His attributes far outweigh Cullen’s who has done little to impress. Other than allegedly being a natural scorer it’s a struggle to see what he brings. The onus has to be on the pro-Cullenists on here to rationally justify his inclusion. “He’s a jack mun “ is feeble. Genuinely interested to know from those that have regularly seen him . I have seen him a few times for the 23’s and each time flattered to deceive and seemed a tad petulant is all that stood out.
Hughton will have learned from the wily Pulis so this will be tough. 1-2, ayew lowe .
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Am in favour of freshening it up but reckon Cooper will go with his tried and tested strongest 11 wit Ayew and Lowe spearheading. Vik deserves his chance ahead of Cullen in the squad if fit and well. His attributes far outweigh Cullen’s who has done little to impress. Other than allegedly being a natural scorer it’s a struggle to see what he brings. The onus has to be on the pro-Cullenists on here to rationally justify his inclusion. “He’s a jack mun “ is feeble. Genuinely interested to know from those that have regularly seen him . I have seen him a few times for the 23’s and each time flattered to deceive and seemed a tad petulant is all that stood out.
Hughton will have learned from the wily Pulis so this will be tough. 1-2, ayew lowe .
For the record Dad, even though I havent seen the u23s Id trust Jaspers opinion way over yours.
Sorry.
Oh wait, no I'm not.
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Another good matchday theme from Loyal. He likes his ham.
Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
Pratley's goal - one of my most joyous Swans moments ever. Still remember it like it was yesterday
Exactly this
I was in some random Sarf England pub with my missus ( on her phone texting rubbish) and the barman (playing Sudoko) and me jumping up and down as close to tears watching a football match (pre Valencia) as I ever have
We are bang on for this 0-3
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Nottingham Forest: Brice Samba, Cyrus Christie, Tobias Figueiredo, Yuri Ribeiro, Jack Colback (captain), Sammy Ameobi, Miguel Guerrero, Ryan Yates, Scott McKenna, Anthony Knockaert, Lyle Taylor.
Substitutes: Jordan Smith, Loic Soh, Carl Jenkinson, Alex Mighten, Cafu, Joe Lolley, Harry Arter, Nicolas Ioannou, Will Swan.
Swansea City: Freddie Woodman; Kyle Naughton, Ryan Bennett, Marc Guehi; Connor Roberts, Korey Smith, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Jake Bidwell; Andre Ayew, Jamal Lowe.
Substitutes: Steven Benda, Ryan Manning, Jordon Garrick, Ben Cabango, Kasey Palmer, Liam Cullen, Wayne Routledge, Viktor Gyokeres, Yan Dhanda.
A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
Nottingham began in the 6th century as a small settlement called Snotta inga ham. The Anglo-Saxon word ham meant village. The word inga meant 'belonging to' and Snotta was a man. So its name meant the village owned by Snotta. Gradually its name changed to Snottingham then just Nottingham.
Anyway, they are near the foot of the table traditionally well placed to take three points from us. I’m still hoping for a 0 -2 win.
The official Nottingham Forest v Swansea City Matchday thread : Sat Update 4pm* on 11:05 - Nov 29 by Badlands
Nottingham began in the 6th century as a small settlement called Snotta inga ham. The Anglo-Saxon word ham meant village. The word inga meant 'belonging to' and Snotta was a man. So its name meant the village owned by Snotta. Gradually its name changed to Snottingham then just Nottingham.
Anyway, they are near the foot of the table traditionally well placed to take three points from us. I’m still hoping for a 0 -2 win.
That’s far too factual for the boy loyal.
A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
The official Nottingham Forest v Swansea City Matchday thread : Sat Update 4pm* on 11:03 - Nov 29 by KeithHaynes
Nottingham Forest: Brice Samba, Cyrus Christie, Tobias Figueiredo, Yuri Ribeiro, Jack Colback (captain), Sammy Ameobi, Miguel Guerrero, Ryan Yates, Scott McKenna, Anthony Knockaert, Lyle Taylor.
Substitutes: Jordan Smith, Loic Soh, Carl Jenkinson, Alex Mighten, Cafu, Joe Lolley, Harry Arter, Nicolas Ioannou, Will Swan.
Swansea City: Freddie Woodman; Kyle Naughton, Ryan Bennett, Marc Guehi; Connor Roberts, Korey Smith, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Jake Bidwell; Andre Ayew, Jamal Lowe.
Substitutes: Steven Benda, Ryan Manning, Jordon Garrick, Ben Cabango, Kasey Palmer, Liam Cullen, Wayne Routledge, Viktor Gyokeres, Yan Dhanda.
3 deep lying midfielders against a team near the foot of the table, abelt with a new manager and at a ground where we struggle to win.
It is likely we are going to struggle to score with that line up and given it’s going to take until at least half time to get a change to it then that’s basically half the game gone at least with less chance of scoring goals.
That’s the problem for me, we have too many first halves with very little in the way of attacking intent or goalscoring chances, which then limits the amount of time we have to win the game, Sheff Wed was a classic example of this. Whether it’s Cooper’s selections and tactics from the start or some other reason I don’t know.
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3 deep lying midfielders against a team near the foot of the table, abelt with a new manager and at a ground where we struggle to win.
It is likely we are going to struggle to score with that line up and given it’s going to take until at least half time to get a change to it then that’s basically half the game gone at least with less chance of scoring goals.
That’s the problem for me, we have too many first halves with very little in the way of attacking intent or goalscoring chances, which then limits the amount of time we have to win the game, Sheff Wed was a classic example of this. Whether it’s Cooper’s selections and tactics from the start or some other reason I don’t know.
Absolutely spot on.
A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
The official Nottingham Forest v Swansea City Matchday thread : Sat Update 4pm* on 11:20 - Nov 29 by tylagarwjack
3 deep lying midfielders against a team near the foot of the table, abelt with a new manager and at a ground where we struggle to win.
It is likely we are going to struggle to score with that line up and given it’s going to take until at least half time to get a change to it then that’s basically half the game gone at least with less chance of scoring goals.
That’s the problem for me, we have too many first halves with very little in the way of attacking intent or goalscoring chances, which then limits the amount of time we have to win the game, Sheff Wed was a classic example of this. Whether it’s Cooper’s selections and tactics from the start or some other reason I don’t know.
Yeah can't really argue with that.
Ameobi is the one that worries me, give us nightmares up there last year. Need to be in the game on the hour mark before the changes come and that is not a good mentality to go into a game with.
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Grimes has started as he finished against Sheffield Wednesday. Either he gives possession away or passes backwards. Let us hope somebody else can get a grip in midfield.
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As previously stated, seems a negative midfield. Here's hoping Fulton carries on his impressive form.
Cooper is looking to keep it tight, clearly later on go for the win. Forest are definitely more up for this, they are the home side. It shouldn't go unnoticed forest have better possession stats than we do this season. This defensive midfield is going to be key.
The official Nottingham Forest v Swansea City Matchday thread : Sat Update 4pm* on 11:05 - Nov 29 by Badlands
Nottingham began in the 6th century as a small settlement called Snotta inga ham. The Anglo-Saxon word ham meant village. The word inga meant 'belonging to' and Snotta was a man. So its name meant the village owned by Snotta. Gradually its name changed to Snottingham then just Nottingham.
Anyway, they are near the foot of the table traditionally well placed to take three points from us. I’m still hoping for a 0 -2 win.
The same thing happened with Scunthorpe, although on reflection they decided not to take the ‘S’ away.
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Grimes has started as he finished against Sheffield Wednesday. Either he gives possession away or passes backwards. Let us hope somebody else can get a grip in midfield.
How can he pass forward when no options on with no width ayew is always dropping deep and Lowe goes wandering he can only go sideways to our full backs
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