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Russia invade Ukraine 14:17 - Dec 23 with 204493 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Discuss.

Also why is Putin always described in the media as this rugged strongman? He’s barely five foot tall with his high heels on.

But that’s another debate.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 19:40 - Jul 20 with 1668 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 19:30 - Jul 20 by Brynmill_Jack

There has been NO diplomatic effort by ANY western leader to solve this crisis through negotiations.
They rather keep feeding young Ukrainian men and women into the mincer because war is profit, especially if you are a member of the U.S. senate or congress and happen to have shares in the big 5 attack , sorry I mean defence companies.

That’s the real story and it makes me sick to my stomach. The Minsk accords have been willfully ignored by the Ukraine (and the west could have imposed sanctions upon them for this) and they just carried on attacking Donbas. It appears they weren’t expecting any kind of response! When agreements are breached the final option is military action.


Meanwhile in the real world

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Russia invade Ukraine on 19:44 - Jul 20 with 1654 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 19:40 - Jul 20 by Boundy

Meanwhile in the real world


Maybe they will take up to the Moldovan border. Imagine how things would have turned out if they’d just stuck to the internationally agreed accords of 2015. They have complete territorial integrity.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 19:48 - Jul 20 with 1650 viewsdeanscfc

Russia invade Ukraine on 19:30 - Jul 20 by Brynmill_Jack

There has been NO diplomatic effort by ANY western leader to solve this crisis through negotiations.
They rather keep feeding young Ukrainian men and women into the mincer because war is profit, especially if you are a member of the U.S. senate or congress and happen to have shares in the big 5 attack , sorry I mean defence companies.

That’s the real story and it makes me sick to my stomach. The Minsk accords have been willfully ignored by the Ukraine (and the west could have imposed sanctions upon them for this) and they just carried on attacking Donbas. It appears they weren’t expecting any kind of response! When agreements are breached the final option is military action.


You really do have no shame, aye. Even after the more recent posts on this thread which to any sane person destroy your narrative.

Even when the clips of Russian State TV show their imperialistic and genocidal beliefs, even when Russian speaking Ukrainian people are posting online about how they themselves (note...directly, not via Russian propaganda channels), feel about ideas of 'liberation', even when many of us know Russian speaking Ukrainians who've never had any issues whatsoever with speaking Russian in Ukraine, even when Russia casually tells the world 'oh we want more than the East of Ukraine'

And you clowns still try and justify Russia's BS.

It's like Kremlin bingo... the 'Minsk accords'. Ah those ones that Russia said it wasn't party to and therefore couldn't be bound by.

Some info for others:

https://cepa.org/dont-let-russia-fool-you-about-the-minsk-agreements/

Can I ask..are you of a far left political orientation by any chance? I've seen a bit of this Kremlin apologist nonsense coming from some in that group.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 19:56 - Jul 20 with 1640 viewsCatullus

Russia invade Ukraine on 19:48 - Jul 20 by deanscfc

You really do have no shame, aye. Even after the more recent posts on this thread which to any sane person destroy your narrative.

Even when the clips of Russian State TV show their imperialistic and genocidal beliefs, even when Russian speaking Ukrainian people are posting online about how they themselves (note...directly, not via Russian propaganda channels), feel about ideas of 'liberation', even when many of us know Russian speaking Ukrainians who've never had any issues whatsoever with speaking Russian in Ukraine, even when Russia casually tells the world 'oh we want more than the East of Ukraine'

And you clowns still try and justify Russia's BS.

It's like Kremlin bingo... the 'Minsk accords'. Ah those ones that Russia said it wasn't party to and therefore couldn't be bound by.

Some info for others:

https://cepa.org/dont-let-russia-fool-you-about-the-minsk-agreements/

Can I ask..are you of a far left political orientation by any chance? I've seen a bit of this Kremlin apologist nonsense coming from some in that group.
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Dean, he's so far left he makes Jeremy Corbyn look like Tony Blair!

What these two post on here is embarrasing, disgraceful and pathetic. Thank god people like this are very much in the minority. Imagine if our government thought like them, we'd be sending weapons and materiel to Russia!

Thank the heavens even our stupid politicians arent THAT stupid.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Russia invade Ukraine on 20:06 - Jul 20 with 1629 viewsdeanscfc

Russia invade Ukraine on 19:56 - Jul 20 by Catullus

Dean, he's so far left he makes Jeremy Corbyn look like Tony Blair!

What these two post on here is embarrasing, disgraceful and pathetic. Thank god people like this are very much in the minority. Imagine if our government thought like them, we'd be sending weapons and materiel to Russia!

Thank the heavens even our stupid politicians arent THAT stupid.


Ah. That would explain it.

I spent a fair bit of time calling out some of those far left lot on twitter for being Russian sympathisers. Often carefully worded but the reality is that they seek to attack Ukraine at its worst time because Ukraine having wanted to join NATO makes Ukraine the enemy.

I've noticed a lot of Ukrainian people have started talking about them too. Tankies is the reference used I believe.

And yes, I absolutely can't stand Johnson or the Tories personally, but Jeremy Corbyn as PM as Russia invaded...not good at all. Funny how the 'stop the war' lot never protest outside the Russian embassy.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 20:54 - Jul 20 with 1590 viewsdeanscfc



Just more Ukrainian people destroying the BS Kremlin and Russian apologist narrative.

Read all tweets in that thread.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 21:57 - Jul 20 with 1558 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 19:44 - Jul 20 by Brynmill_Jack

Maybe they will take up to the Moldovan border. Imagine how things would have turned out if they’d just stuck to the internationally agreed accords of 2015. They have complete territorial integrity.


"integrity" , its a wonder you know how to spell it let alone form a sentence including it ,

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 22:20 - Jul 20 with 1524 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 19:23 - Jul 20 by Brynmill_Jack

He’s had the capability to do this for many years. The U.S. has been arming Ukraine since 2014, maybe even before so why attack when it’s stronger than it’s arguably ever been? Makes no sense at all unless he began to feel threatened.

The other reason is there has been no threat until 2014 and the Maidan uprising that seeks to de Russify ethnic Russians or Ukrainians that speak Russian.

Like I said before if you put Trampie in charge of Wales and he introduced laws downgrading the English language (and he had a rentamob like Azov to implement his crazed fantasies) life would be pretty awful for solely English speaking Welsh people.


No threat until the illegal invasion of Crimea which according to Putin and his acolytes had nothing to do with them yet ! , this just one too many lies propagated by Moscow but lapped up by the likes of CJ and his bitch

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Russia invade Ukraine on 00:58 - Jul 21 with 1485 viewsdeanscfc

Russia invade Ukraine on 22:20 - Jul 20 by Boundy

No threat until the illegal invasion of Crimea which according to Putin and his acolytes had nothing to do with them yet ! , this just one too many lies propagated by Moscow but lapped up by the likes of CJ and his bitch

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Oh Russia never invaded Crimea. Just like it was never going to invade in February. Just like it only wanted to protect the Russian speakers in the East. Just like it never wanted Kyiv. Just like it never targeted civilian infrastructure or commited any war crimes. Just like it only ever wanted the East and no other part of Ukraine. Because of Nazis. Or NATO. Or something. Just not imperialism. Not that.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:12 - Jul 21 with 1424 viewsCatullus

Russia invade Ukraine on 00:58 - Jul 21 by deanscfc

Oh Russia never invaded Crimea. Just like it was never going to invade in February. Just like it only wanted to protect the Russian speakers in the East. Just like it never wanted Kyiv. Just like it never targeted civilian infrastructure or commited any war crimes. Just like it only ever wanted the East and no other part of Ukraine. Because of Nazis. Or NATO. Or something. Just not imperialism. Not that.


I'm sure at least one of this threads Haw Haws has said scathing things about the UK's colonial past, if they have then I wonder if the massive irony is lost on them? Then there's the hypocrisy.

I'm really suprised this thread is allowed to continue.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Russia invade Ukraine on 12:31 - Jul 21 with 1401 viewsdeanscfc

Russia invade Ukraine on 10:12 - Jul 21 by Catullus

I'm sure at least one of this threads Haw Haws has said scathing things about the UK's colonial past, if they have then I wonder if the massive irony is lost on them? Then there's the hypocrisy.

I'm really suprised this thread is allowed to continue.


It bothers me that fellow Swans fans are spreading the Kremlin propaganda given all that is happening. But then it bothered me when I realised that many of the far left do take this approach because of their hatred for NATO and aspects of the West. I think it is quite possible to be critical of what some Western countries have done militarily and while still being sickened about what Russia is doing. The US and UK have used military force where they shouldn't have done and even commited some war crimes which never should have happened, but I'd say it's pretty clear that Russia's behaviour is on another level, with the very worst of it coming from the top.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 17:40 - Jul 21 with 1355 viewsdeanscfc

An Israeli (I presume Jewish) and a Muslim coming together to fight for Ukraine.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 15:47 - Jul 22 with 1263 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 12:31 - Jul 21 by deanscfc

It bothers me that fellow Swans fans are spreading the Kremlin propaganda given all that is happening. But then it bothered me when I realised that many of the far left do take this approach because of their hatred for NATO and aspects of the West. I think it is quite possible to be critical of what some Western countries have done militarily and while still being sickened about what Russia is doing. The US and UK have used military force where they shouldn't have done and even commited some war crimes which never should have happened, but I'd say it's pretty clear that Russia's behaviour is on another level, with the very worst of it coming from the top.


What bothers me me is I share the same oxygen as these trolls

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:32 - Jul 23 with 1194 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 17:40 - Jul 21 by deanscfc

An Israeli (I presume Jewish) and a Muslim coming together to fight for Ukraine.



You’re obviously unaware that the Chechens are fighting on the Russian side? And sssuming there’s not a single Jew in the Russian army ? And you know that for definite? And you find one Muslim and one Jewish fighter on the side of the Ukrainians? Oh have a badge!!

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:35 - Jul 23 with 1190 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 15:47 - Jul 22 by Boundy

What bothers me me is I share the same oxygen as these trolls


Believe me knowing that someone like you sits in the same stadium as me doesn’t exactly fill me with delight either. And stop the f*cking insults. I won’t tell you again.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:39 - Jul 23 with 1187 viewsBrynmill_Jack

A nice documentary of the fall of Azovstal and the capture of those non Nazis (albeit with Nazi tattoos) who came out all claiming to be anything but combatants. And the misery THEY inflicted on the local population.

I hope their trials for war crimes deal them the justice they deserve.


https://t.me/ConflictChronicles/2899

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:50 - Jul 23 with 1181 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 15:47 - Jul 22 by Boundy

What bothers me me is I share the same oxygen as these trolls


You have overstepped the line there dude. I hope Keith has Seen this.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:53 - Jul 23 with 1175 viewscontroversial_jack

It's as if they have conveniently ignored the genocide and ethnic cleansing the Ukrainian military have been doing in the Donbass for 8 years
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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:57 - Jul 23 with 1165 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 09:50 - Jul 23 by controversial_jack

You have overstepped the line there dude. I hope Keith has Seen this.


Nothing I posted wasn't true ,unlike yourself so suck it up

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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:55 - Jul 23 with 1134 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 09:57 - Jul 23 by Boundy

Nothing I posted wasn't true ,unlike yourself so suck it up


You have crossed the line, getting very personal over an issue you know next to nothing about.
Keith needs to have a word with you and you need to have a word with yourself. And you’re by no means the only one on here.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:22 - Jul 23 with 1126 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Russia invade Ukraine on 09:53 - Jul 23 by controversial_jack

It's as if they have conveniently ignored the genocide and ethnic cleansing the Ukrainian military have been doing in the Donbass for 8 years


Give your head a wobble. If you’re ethnic cleansing and committing genocide for eight years there’d be hardly any bugger left. The genocide in Rwanda left at least half a million dead in two months or so. The Germans killed at least six million Jews and others in around three years.

Stop throwing around this hyperbolic nonsense to try and justify this war.

Genocide ffs.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:39 - Jul 23 with 1116 viewsdeanscfc

Russia invade Ukraine on 11:22 - Jul 23 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Give your head a wobble. If you’re ethnic cleansing and committing genocide for eight years there’d be hardly any bugger left. The genocide in Rwanda left at least half a million dead in two months or so. The Germans killed at least six million Jews and others in around three years.

Stop throwing around this hyperbolic nonsense to try and justify this war.

Genocide ffs.


That one isn't worth bothering with really. He deliberately repeats that Kremlin line to troll even though it's been disproven with actual figures. And as I say, some of know people from that area of Ukraine and know what total BS it is. Russia actually drove out many from those areas.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:47 - Jul 23 with 1111 viewsdeanscfc

Russia invade Ukraine on 09:32 - Jul 23 by Brynmill_Jack

You’re obviously unaware that the Chechens are fighting on the Russian side? And sssuming there’s not a single Jew in the Russian army ? And you know that for definite? And you find one Muslim and one Jewish fighter on the side of the Ukrainians? Oh have a badge!!


I'm not sure what your point is. It's just a video of a Jew and Muslim teaming up fighting against an invader.

There are Kadyrovites fighting for Russia because Kadyrov is Putin's bitch and does what he says due to the history of Chechnya. These soldiers became famous for their posts on tiktok ('the tiktok army'). People point out how quiet they went in more recent times.

There are actually also Chechnyans fighting for Ukraine against Russia too. Seems from your comment that you don't realise it.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:51 - Jul 23 with 1101 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 11:47 - Jul 23 by deanscfc

I'm not sure what your point is. It's just a video of a Jew and Muslim teaming up fighting against an invader.

There are Kadyrovites fighting for Russia because Kadyrov is Putin's bitch and does what he says due to the history of Chechnya. These soldiers became famous for their posts on tiktok ('the tiktok army'). People point out how quiet they went in more recent times.

There are actually also Chechnyans fighting for Ukraine against Russia too. Seems from your comment that you don't realise it.


Are there? Really? I guess if that’s true they’d better stay in Ukraine after the war as their fellow countrymen are fighting on the other side in big numbers.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:55 - Jul 23 with 1097 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 11:47 - Jul 23 by deanscfc

I'm not sure what your point is. It's just a video of a Jew and Muslim teaming up fighting against an invader.

There are Kadyrovites fighting for Russia because Kadyrov is Putin's bitch and does what he says due to the history of Chechnya. These soldiers became famous for their posts on tiktok ('the tiktok army'). People point out how quiet they went in more recent times.

There are actually also Chechnyans fighting for Ukraine against Russia too. Seems from your comment that you don't realise it.


No comeback over your idiotic claim that the Russians are a league above the Americans when it comes to killing civilians?

No you’d rather talk about who has the most Jews and Muslims fighting on each side in the conflict. Because obviously that REALLY matters!!!

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