| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals 14:03 - Mar 28 with 1371 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
All getting outsourced from the UK in the name of decarbonisation when we are still using these products.
Now Primary Steel in the UK is under threat just when we want to expand our defence industry.
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 14:15 - Mar 28 with 1240 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Theoretically there may be enough steel in the system. Construction of tower blocks is the main usage at a guess. Tanks and military vehicles used less compared to steel framed building and concrete reinforcement railway libs etc.
Fir every new building there is one demolished. PT and Llanwern were churning out steel for decades. It all exists somewhere.
Someone hopefully has done the calculations. UK should restart ship dismantling commercially. |  |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 17:10 - Mar 28 with 1196 views | SullutaCreturned |
It is utter madness, in the name of net zero our governments have been downgrading our security and our ability to do things for ourselves, we will be reliant on countries who may wish us harm. |  | | |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 17:37 - Mar 28 with 1176 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 17:10 - Mar 28 by SullutaCreturned |
It is utter madness, in the name of net zero our governments have been downgrading our security and our ability to do things for ourselves, we will be reliant on countries who may wish us harm. |
It's not net zero, we are still using the things we have stopped producing, it's just that someone else makes them.
We have idiots making decisions that make no difference to the global climate position and at the same time have a negative impact on our economy. | |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 19:43 - Mar 28 with 1129 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 17:37 - Mar 28 by JACKMANANDBOY |
It's not net zero, we are still using the things we have stopped producing, it's just that someone else makes them.
We have idiots making decisions that make no difference to the global climate position and at the same time have a negative impact on our economy. |
It's supposedly net zero in this country although we know that nonsesne because we are just shipping our manufacturing pollution abroad.
Our CO2 is less than 1% of the worlds output and it costs us a fortune, these clowns we have elected, they're even worse than the tories they just make different absurd decisions. Milliband will ruin this place once and for all and by the time we are all driving electric cars the whole "sustainable" model will be around something different, possibly hydrogen, and we'll have t pay anothr fortune for that change too. | | | |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 21:01 - Mar 28 with 1101 views | max936 |
We got thick @@@@'s with illogical idealistic ideas and the taxpayer is picking up the tab for their fanciful ideas.
Pity the British public hasn't got the French public's backbone. |  |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 21:02 - Mar 28 with 1096 views | max936 |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 19:43 - Mar 28 by SullutaCreturned |
It's supposedly net zero in this country although we know that nonsesne because we are just shipping our manufacturing pollution abroad.
Our CO2 is less than 1% of the worlds output and it costs us a fortune, these clowns we have elected, they're even worse than the tories they just make different absurd decisions. Milliband will ruin this place once and for all and by the time we are all driving electric cars the whole "sustainable" model will be around something different, possibly hydrogen, and we'll have t pay anothr fortune for that change too. |
Exactly right! | |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 21:39 - Mar 28 with 1067 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 19:43 - Mar 28 by SullutaCreturned |
It's supposedly net zero in this country although we know that nonsesne because we are just shipping our manufacturing pollution abroad.
Our CO2 is less than 1% of the worlds output and it costs us a fortune, these clowns we have elected, they're even worse than the tories they just make different absurd decisions. Milliband will ruin this place once and for all and by the time we are all driving electric cars the whole "sustainable" model will be around something different, possibly hydrogen, and we'll have t pay anothr fortune for that change too. |
Hydrogen cars on the way, you can run gas boilers on hydrogen with adaptation and guess what we already have the infrastructure.
https://eladelantado.com/news/toyota-new-engine-gen/ | |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 11:07 - Mar 29 with 926 views | controversial_jack |
The problem with hydrogen is it's storage and manufacture. It needs to be manufactured, as it's not abundant like natural gas. It also needs to be compressed and stored at very high pressures. I believe it would be very costly | | | |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 13:05 - Mar 29 with 871 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Welsh people ( people living in Wales) were keeping warm by burning black shiny rocks coming out of valley sides 3,000 -4000 years ago. They have been doing the same thing ever since.
It is no surprise that many folks on here are fearful of the brave new world where 4000 years of tradition are being questioned
Be clear Indians Pakistani s and Chinese will do what we do. We lead they follow. That is what they have always done. Like us they want to breath clean air. [Post edited 30 Mar 14:51]
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 13:56 - Mar 29 with 853 views | Boundy |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 13:05 - Mar 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Welsh people ( people living in Wales) were keeping warm by burning black shiny rocks coming out of valley sides 3,000 -4000 years ago. They have been doing the same thing ever since.
It is no surprise that many folks on here are fearful of the brave new world where 4000 years of tradition are being questioned
Be clear Indians Pakistani s and Chinese will do what we do. We lead they follow. That is what they have always done. Like us they want to breath clean air. [Post edited 30 Mar 14:51]
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"Be clear Indians Pakistani s and Chinese will do what we do. We lead they follow. That is what they have always done. Like us they want to breath clea air. Our way treats need attention clearly." you've posted that before , I laughed then as I do now. | |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 13:58 - Mar 29 with 845 views | Whiterockin |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 13:56 - Mar 29 by Boundy |
"Be clear Indians Pakistani s and Chinese will do what we do. We lead they follow. That is what they have always done. Like us they want to breath clea air. Our way treats need attention clearly." you've posted that before , I laughed then as I do now. |
I laughed and decided to ignore the deluded clown. |  | | |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 17:24 - Mar 29 with 767 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 13:56 - Mar 29 by Boundy |
"Be clear Indians Pakistani s and Chinese will do what we do. We lead they follow. That is what they have always done. Like us they want to breath clea air. Our way treats need attention clearly." you've posted that before , I laughed then as I do now. |
He's on ignore so I missed that. Saying we lead they follow is so clearly wrong, India and China are looking to push ahead of us but I don't know what Pakistan want beyond wanting to beat India.
That's all vaguely racist to be honest, " we lead...." but the poster obviously cannot see it nor understand. | | | |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 18:36 - Mar 29 with 733 views | SullutaCreturned |
And what they said was the future, small sized electric cars, has turned out to be a bad call, as the report says,
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c778ekg64mjo | | | |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 23:43 - Mar 29 with 669 views | max936 |
Boilers being run on Hydrogen is still a good way off, Cars longer, gas will still be around in 10 yrs plus, you can Quote me on that.
We haven't the infrastructure we got gas leaks everywhere on the network, with hydrogen being far more volatile with its flammability at 4% to 75% in air compared to gas at 5% to 15% with hydrogen having a much lower ignition energy making it very difficult to control.
Electric vehicles are a nightmare especially in industry as they just can't do the mileage required to be an option, the lost time in having to recharge is costing millions.
The likes of Miliband "obsessed" with us being net zero is about as far fetched as Cardiff City winning the Premiership. | |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 08:49 - Mar 30 with 605 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 23:43 - Mar 29 by max936 |
Boilers being run on Hydrogen is still a good way off, Cars longer, gas will still be around in 10 yrs plus, you can Quote me on that.
We haven't the infrastructure we got gas leaks everywhere on the network, with hydrogen being far more volatile with its flammability at 4% to 75% in air compared to gas at 5% to 15% with hydrogen having a much lower ignition energy making it very difficult to control.
Electric vehicles are a nightmare especially in industry as they just can't do the mileage required to be an option, the lost time in having to recharge is costing millions.
The likes of Miliband "obsessed" with us being net zero is about as far fetched as Cardiff City winning the Premiership. |
Technology advances very quickly, 20 years ago there was not an iPhone, who knows what things will look like in 20 years, that's why Miliband is mad going hell for leather using today's solutions. | |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 11:18 - Mar 30 with 543 views | controversial_jack |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 08:49 - Mar 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Technology advances very quickly, 20 years ago there was not an iPhone, who knows what things will look like in 20 years, that's why Miliband is mad going hell for leather using today's solutions. |
Hydrogen has been around in mass storage facilities for decades. I don't think there have been any advancements in this as long as i can remember. Previous poster is correct, it's not really a gas you want in your house | | | |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 11:49 - Mar 30 with 515 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 11:18 - Mar 30 by controversial_jack |
Hydrogen has been around in mass storage facilities for decades. I don't think there have been any advancements in this as long as i can remember. Previous poster is correct, it's not really a gas you want in your house |
Dutch and Germans are already trialling hydrogen. | |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 12:04 - Mar 30 with 499 views | max936 |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 11:49 - Mar 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Dutch and Germans are already trialling hydrogen. |
Double post! [Post edited 30 Mar 15:02]
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 12:22 - Mar 30 with 493 views | max936 |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 11:49 - Mar 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Dutch and Germans are already trialling hydrogen. |
They're trialling Hydrogen on boilers here seen them at training centre, I've seen it, it's very clean in fairness, but it's still volatile, a gas/hydrogen mixture with gas being the larger percentage of either is the way they'll start have started, but boilers being run solely on hydrogen is a fair way off, at 64 I doubt I'll see it. | |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 12:52 - Mar 30 with 449 views | controversial_jack |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 11:49 - Mar 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Dutch and Germans are already trialling hydrogen. |
It can be done of course, but will be very expensive | | | |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 14:49 - Mar 30 with 390 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 13:58 - Mar 29 by Whiterockin |
I laughed and decided to ignore the deluded clown. |
Cars, trains, tower blocks, sewage systems, light rail, passenger aeroplanes motorways concrete bridges internet, the list is never ending. Try to think outside the box and learn respect.
Now nuclear power and wind turbines. Humanity is at a turning point. We have a choice. To live cleanly or in a dirty way. Governments can be the biggest slobs out there and UK was one of the worst. Our coal killed forests in Sweden. [Post edited 30 Mar 14:52]
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 15:10 - Mar 30 with 349 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 17:24 - Mar 29 by SullutaCreturned |
He's on ignore so I missed that. Saying we lead they follow is so clearly wrong, India and China are looking to push ahead of us but I don't know what Pakistan want beyond wanting to beat India.
That's all vaguely racist to be honest, " we lead...." but the poster obviously cannot see it nor understand. |
You do not understand racism. Racism is promoting negative untruths on the basis of ethnicity. Swansea fans regularly do this as do Bulgarians and Hungarian football fans. | |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 15:29 - Mar 30 with 338 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 15:10 - Mar 30 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You do not understand racism. Racism is promoting negative untruths on the basis of ethnicity. Swansea fans regularly do this as do Bulgarians and Hungarian football fans. |
And saying that Pakistani's Indians and Chinese have always followed us and always will IS racist, it is a negative stereotype based on bias.
The Chinese are miles ahead of the Uk in many areas...AI to start with. China leads the world in manufacturing output. Both China and India were thriving civilisations when people in this country lived in mud huts.
Ever heard of Varanasi? Ever heard of Xi'an? We have Colchester, 49CE so not 2000 years old so for City's we followed them, I expect there's a long list of things we followed them in if I could be that bothered.
Think again about who doesn't understand racism. | | | |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 18:01 - Mar 30 with 296 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 15:29 - Mar 30 by SullutaCreturned |
And saying that Pakistani's Indians and Chinese have always followed us and always will IS racist, it is a negative stereotype based on bias.
The Chinese are miles ahead of the Uk in many areas...AI to start with. China leads the world in manufacturing output. Both China and India were thriving civilisations when people in this country lived in mud huts.
Ever heard of Varanasi? Ever heard of Xi'an? We have Colchester, 49CE so not 2000 years old so for City's we followed them, I expect there's a long list of things we followed them in if I could be that bothered.
Think again about who doesn't understand racism. |
I am talking about recent post industrial history not going into ancient history.
There is no doubt Chinese production outstrips Western ones. They benefit from a vast underpaid obedient workforce. Guess what? we have already been there as well. | |
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| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 19:51 - Apr 1 with 89 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Steel, Aluminium, Fertiliser and Petrol Chemicals on 18:01 - Mar 30 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I am talking about recent post industrial history not going into ancient history.
There is no doubt Chinese production outstrips Western ones. They benefit from a vast underpaid obedient workforce. Guess what? we have already been there as well. |
China always had that workforce. | | | |
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