Club World Cup 20:32 - Jun 11 with 1894 views | SaintNick | Whats this all about how come Man City & Chelsea are in it ? |  |
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Club World Cup on 20:46 - Jun 11 with 1862 views | LondonSaint76 | It is an expanded format from this season onwards. Only two teams from each nation are allowed to qualify - unless more won each continent's equivalent Champions League during the qualifying period. As Chelsea and City both won the Champions League in the qualifying period, they have taken England's two spots. The qualifying period for European clubs to compete in the CWC 2025 was 2021-2024. |  |
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Club World Cup on 20:58 - Jun 11 with 1845 views | SaintNick |
Club World Cup on 20:46 - Jun 11 by LondonSaint76 | It is an expanded format from this season onwards. Only two teams from each nation are allowed to qualify - unless more won each continent's equivalent Champions League during the qualifying period. As Chelsea and City both won the Champions League in the qualifying period, they have taken England's two spots. The qualifying period for European clubs to compete in the CWC 2025 was 2021-2024. |
So not the best teams in 2025 then, potentially a team that was good 4 years ago but isnt now |  |
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Club World Cup on 21:30 - Jun 11 with 1804 views | cocklebreath |
Club World Cup on 20:58 - Jun 11 by SaintNick | So not the best teams in 2025 then, potentially a team that was good 4 years ago but isnt now |
I’m sure Liverpool will qualify soon |  |
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Club World Cup on 21:41 - Jun 11 with 1794 views | SaintNick |
Club World Cup on 21:30 - Jun 11 by cocklebreath | I’m sure Liverpool will qualify soon |
How did i guess that you were going to say that when I say your post up |  |
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Club World Cup on 23:13 - Jun 11 with 1718 views | cocklebreath |
Club World Cup on 21:41 - Jun 11 by SaintNick | How did i guess that you were going to say that when I say your post up |
I’m not gonna miss an open goal😇 |  |
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Club World Cup on 08:53 - Jun 12 with 1512 views | solent_toffee |
Club World Cup on 20:46 - Jun 11 by LondonSaint76 | It is an expanded format from this season onwards. Only two teams from each nation are allowed to qualify - unless more won each continent's equivalent Champions League during the qualifying period. As Chelsea and City both won the Champions League in the qualifying period, they have taken England's two spots. The qualifying period for European clubs to compete in the CWC 2025 was 2021-2024. |
They were thinking of a way of City and Chelsea being able to buy players as they have so many restrictions on them and poor Chelsea have ran out of hotels and women’s team to sell (although they are due to sell their over 75’s walking football team for 100m, to themselves). They were going to do a go fund me. But thankfully FIFA agreed to host a charity fundraiser tournament for them. Modern football, love it. [Post edited 12 Jun 8:54]
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Club World Cup on 09:17 - Jun 12 with 1482 views | kingolaf | I hope it fails miserably. FIFA, more corrupt and greedy than when Blatter had his nose in the trough. |  | |  |
Club World Cup on 16:16 - Jun 12 with 1324 views | LondonSaint76 |
Club World Cup on 20:58 - Jun 11 by SaintNick | So not the best teams in 2025 then, potentially a team that was good 4 years ago but isnt now |
Correct Nick, if 2021 is in the qualification period that would mean season 2020/21 as the CL Final is at the end of the season. Just think where we were in the 2020/21 season compared to right now… So, as you say, certainly not the best team/s right now. I think over time FIFA will push this tournament harder and harder. Up until the end of the 23/24 season I used to chair an FA JLC (Joint Liaison Committee) for London & SE England and we used to get regular ‘scenarios’ to discuss and report back on from FIFA, UEFA & the FA. We had a Project Team set up to analyse whatever was sent through and in my personal opinion there is definitely a long term agenda running in the background to establish both European and World Super Leagues, by stealth if necessary, over the next 10-15 years. This expansion of the CWC is just the beginning. For example, obviously there is no guarantee that an English team will win the CL - who’s to say in a five year period PSG, Real Madrid & Barca won’t win all 5 finals? That would leave England with zero entrants. Plans - sorry, ‘scenarios’ exist to expand the completion further by relaxing the qualification criteria to include losing CL finalists, even all 4 semi-finalists. ‘Scenarios’ also exist for having geographically zoned qualification groups (Leagues by another name) for Europe ect, ect… This is being pushed for by the people who organised things like the Saudi Pro League heavily backed by global media stakeholders already in place due to their existing relationships with FIFA for World Cup broadcasting rights. A European Qualification Group could at some stage quite possibly become the craved European Super League by stealth as excuses to expand it would be found until it was a done deal. |  |
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Club World Cup on 16:35 - Jun 12 with 1315 views | sledger |
Club World Cup on 16:16 - Jun 12 by LondonSaint76 | Correct Nick, if 2021 is in the qualification period that would mean season 2020/21 as the CL Final is at the end of the season. Just think where we were in the 2020/21 season compared to right now… So, as you say, certainly not the best team/s right now. I think over time FIFA will push this tournament harder and harder. Up until the end of the 23/24 season I used to chair an FA JLC (Joint Liaison Committee) for London & SE England and we used to get regular ‘scenarios’ to discuss and report back on from FIFA, UEFA & the FA. We had a Project Team set up to analyse whatever was sent through and in my personal opinion there is definitely a long term agenda running in the background to establish both European and World Super Leagues, by stealth if necessary, over the next 10-15 years. This expansion of the CWC is just the beginning. For example, obviously there is no guarantee that an English team will win the CL - who’s to say in a five year period PSG, Real Madrid & Barca won’t win all 5 finals? That would leave England with zero entrants. Plans - sorry, ‘scenarios’ exist to expand the completion further by relaxing the qualification criteria to include losing CL finalists, even all 4 semi-finalists. ‘Scenarios’ also exist for having geographically zoned qualification groups (Leagues by another name) for Europe ect, ect… This is being pushed for by the people who organised things like the Saudi Pro League heavily backed by global media stakeholders already in place due to their existing relationships with FIFA for World Cup broadcasting rights. A European Qualification Group could at some stage quite possibly become the craved European Super League by stealth as excuses to expand it would be found until it was a done deal. |
isnt the new format champions league a european super league in disguise,all they need do is make it a closed shop then there there. |  | |  |
Club World Cup on 17:41 - Jun 12 with 1281 views | LondonSaint76 |
Club World Cup on 16:35 - Jun 12 by sledger | isnt the new format champions league a european super league in disguise,all they need do is make it a closed shop then there there. |
Can’t disagree with that in principle. They’d have a job on their hands if they tried to close it down right now, for example, Man U would launch an immediate law suit against UEFA as they would be excluded due their current / recent form over the past few years although there might be potential ways around it even for Man U if you use the UEFA co-efficient as a qualification criteria. Man U wouldn’t be the only ones either. I think what will happen is there will be about a five year period where the CL exists in its current (recently revised) format then there will be moves to further expand it much more along the line of the craved for ESL. One of the scenarios that merited considerable discussion was to not havre a situation where clubs cut all their ties domestically so if they were to principally play in a ESL when created they would maintain domestic links through a B Team representing the Club in an English League and in domestic cup competitions. All sorts of different scenarios got put across over about a five year period, that was just one of them. All I know is the expanded format CL and the expanded format CWC that were scenarios on paper not that many years ago have now happened and there are plenty more out there to come. Quite frightens me TBH and not something I am at all comfortable with. In conclusion, yes, in principle you are quite right. They would have difficulty moving to a closed shop right now as that is still considered as a taboo in quite a few quarters. Europe is still the jewel in the global crown and I could see future struggles between FIFA and UEFA for overall control of the elite club competitions due to, yet again, the massive amounts of money involved… |  |
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Club World Cup on 21:59 - Jun 16 with 625 views | MattFinish |
Club World Cup on 09:17 - Jun 12 by kingolaf | I hope it fails miserably. FIFA, more corrupt and greedy than when Blatter had his nose in the trough. |
Spot on. Hope it falls and it seriously affects the greedy teams that participate I’ve absolutely zero interest in watching games where over excited squealing Yanks wet themselves because their team “earned” a throw in on the halfway line and then hear a batch of stats about how many times that player has won throw in on the halfway line Geez, soccer eh 🙄 |  | |  |
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