| REFORM POLICIES 10:31 - Jun 18 with 3306 views | johnlangy |
Whenever I see Reform politicians being questioned about their policies they never answer the question as to how they will manage to implement them. As there appear to be a number of members of this forum either considering or actually going to vote for them next year perhaps you could explain how they are going to achieve these things.
I'll start with two questions. Please feel free to come up with others as i'm sure we'd all like answers.
1 - Raising the tax free threshold to £20,000. How will they fund the loss of £50 billion in tax revenue ?
2 - Stopping the small boats. How will they do it ? |  | | |  |
| REFORM POLICIES on 13:20 - Jun 20 with 669 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| REFORM POLICIES on 12:29 - Jun 20 by Boundy |
In its basic form the EHCR was a good policy idea but like all great policies it sometime forgets why it was introduced and for whom. The balance is no longer in favour of protecting the majority but now helping the few to the detriment of the majority .imo. Hopefully a review will take place with meaningful outcomes and not used just an appeasement . |
I agree, introduced to protect people from governments who would use and abuse them, it's now being used as a lever to find ways to change the course of justice in individual cases. |  |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 13:28 - Jun 20 with 660 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM POLICIES on 08:58 - Jun 20 by Whiterockin |
Is it his fault that successive government's have failed by being weak. |
Yes .. cos he promised if we voted Brexit then it would stop immigration by taking control of our borders in 2016. Its got far worse.
Its a bit like me saying i will get Messi for Swans, but then saying its not my fault that the Swans dont have the money…..
And then i am back saying, vote for me i will get Messi for Swans again …..
Its like his words mean nothing because he cant deliver on the promises he makes.
In short, your man Farage is full of wind and pish…..🇬🇧🇬🇧 |  |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 13:35 - Jun 20 with 647 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM POLICIES on 12:13 - Jun 20 by Boundy |
How do you measure "largely" and why are you continually ignoring the fact that two political party's have been are in power and could if they had the will to do so remove ours selves from this now ridiculous ECHR , maybe your memory is not what it was but Fararge/ UKIP have never been in power to be able to implement this change . .
I think you're confusing the argument by stating people are against immigration , I think you'll find they're not , what they are against are those chancers crossing the channel and entering the country illegally .Are you happy they're breaking UK law ? |
Farage said he would stop migration by taking control of our borders in 2016.
He was not telling the truth.
Leaving the ECHR would be ridiculous.
The migrants will still leave France in small boats.
Do you envisage British Crown forces then sinking these boats ?
If not, then they will be returned to France, yes ? - who will then turn a blind eye whilst they set off again a few days later.
Farage has no solutions, he is just exploiting the concerns of good people. | |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 13:40 - Jun 20 with 633 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM POLICIES on 12:29 - Jun 20 by Boundy |
In its basic form the EHCR was a good policy idea but like all great policies it sometime forgets why it was introduced and for whom. The balance is no longer in favour of protecting the majority but now helping the few to the detriment of the majority .imo. Hopefully a review will take place with meaningful outcomes and not used just an appeasement . |
EHCR was built by largely British lawyers after the horrors of the second world war.
Farage wants deregulation in the workplace etc.
I pick the side of the guys who delivered 80 years of peace in Europe. That peace is not an accident. | |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 14:10 - Jun 20 with 614 views | Scotia |
| REFORM POLICIES on 12:13 - Jun 20 by Boundy |
How do you measure "largely" and why are you continually ignoring the fact that two political party's have been are in power and could if they had the will to do so remove ours selves from this now ridiculous ECHR , maybe your memory is not what it was but Fararge/ UKIP have never been in power to be able to implement this change . .
I think you're confusing the argument by stating people are against immigration , I think you'll find they're not , what they are against are those chancers crossing the channel and entering the country illegally .Are you happy they're breaking UK law ? |
I use the term "largely" becasue of his role in Brexit. Brexit means we can't return them to France, if we were an EU member we could in many cases. Brexit also means the short term migrants from Eastern Europe can no longer come here easily and have been replaced by longer term migrants from Asia and Africa.
The ECHR hasn't really go tmuch to do with it.
Also I'm not happy with any form of unsustainable immigration, but we have to recognise exactly what the problem is to be able to solve it. The people arriving by rubber dinghy are a small problem in the grand scheme of things. [Post edited 20 Jun 14:16]
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| REFORM POLICIES on 14:14 - Jun 20 with 606 views | Scotia |
| REFORM POLICIES on 12:13 - Jun 20 by Boundy |
How do you measure "largely" and why are you continually ignoring the fact that two political party's have been are in power and could if they had the will to do so remove ours selves from this now ridiculous ECHR , maybe your memory is not what it was but Fararge/ UKIP have never been in power to be able to implement this change . .
I think you're confusing the argument by stating people are against immigration , I think you'll find they're not , what they are against are those chancers crossing the channel and entering the country illegally .Are you happy they're breaking UK law ? |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 15:21 - Jun 20 with 562 views | Boundy |
| REFORM POLICIES on 14:10 - Jun 20 by Scotia |
I use the term "largely" becasue of his role in Brexit. Brexit means we can't return them to France, if we were an EU member we could in many cases. Brexit also means the short term migrants from Eastern Europe can no longer come here easily and have been replaced by longer term migrants from Asia and Africa.
The ECHR hasn't really go tmuch to do with it.
Also I'm not happy with any form of unsustainable immigration, but we have to recognise exactly what the problem is to be able to solve it. The people arriving by rubber dinghy are a small problem in the grand scheme of things. [Post edited 20 Jun 14:16]
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"The ECHR hasn't really go much to do with it." really ,take a look at just a few of this weeks' court headlines, drug runners ,rapists etc not being able to be shipped back because they might be abused | |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 16:54 - Jun 20 with 525 views | Scotia |
| REFORM POLICIES on 15:21 - Jun 20 by Boundy |
"The ECHR hasn't really go much to do with it." really ,take a look at just a few of this weeks' court headlines, drug runners ,rapists etc not being able to be shipped back because they might be abused |
The vast majority aren't criminals. | | | |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 17:29 - Jun 20 with 501 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM POLICIES on 15:21 - Jun 20 by Boundy |
"The ECHR hasn't really go much to do with it." really ,take a look at just a few of this weeks' court headlines, drug runners ,rapists etc not being able to be shipped back because they might be abused |
So the 68m good citizens of the uk get stripped of their human rights protections for ever for a handful of pish taking migrants.
No thanks 👍🫡 | |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 18:46 - Jun 20 with 454 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM POLICIES on 13:40 - Jun 20 by Kilkennyjack |
EHCR was built by largely British lawyers after the horrors of the second world war.
Farage wants deregulation in the workplace etc.
I pick the side of the guys who delivered 80 years of peace in Europe. That peace is not an accident. |
No it wasn't, David Maxwell-Fyfe was chair of the committee but there were over 100 elected representatives from all across Europe involved.
Farage is a shyster.
You pick NATO then. Keeping the peace since 1949. Allegedly, because it didn't stop Putin. | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 20:50 - Jun 20 with 436 views | Boundy |
| REFORM POLICIES on 16:54 - Jun 20 by Scotia |
The vast majority aren't criminals. |
There's more than enough to ruin the lives of innocent people or don't they count , you come across as someone who welcomes these boat people regardless of their pasts or intentions. Look at WoL today and see exactly what these people are capable of , gang raping a 12 girl , a fugging child and guess what when the bastards are sentenced in September their lawyers will plead on their behalfs the danger they'll be in if they're deported.Read the story , a 12 year old child .😡 | |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 21:54 - Jun 20 with 406 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM POLICIES on 18:46 - Jun 20 by SullutaCreturned |
No it wasn't, David Maxwell-Fyfe was chair of the committee but there were over 100 elected representatives from all across Europe involved.
Farage is a shyster.
You pick NATO then. Keeping the peace since 1949. Allegedly, because it didn't stop Putin. |
‘British lawyer Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe played a leading role in its drafting. He chaired the Assembly's Legal and Administrative Questions Committee, which was tasked with drafting the Convention. He, along with other British figures like Lord Layton, Samuel Hoare, Ernest Bevin, and Harold Macmillan, contributed significantly to its creation. The UK was also the first country to sign and ratify the ECHR.’
I am pretty much correct.
I did not say exclusively British.
Yes NATO kept the peace - and guns pointing at guns was needed, however it the international rules based order that has also helped deliver peace. Smaller nations get a say and fairness is seen to be done. Trumps MAGA and Brexit halfwits would torch the lot so they reopen pits without so much health and safety to worry about - and the workers get to work long hours all over again. Not Farage though, no he will at his Gents club in London telling them how he duped the welsh to think he was a man of the people. Oh how he will laugh …. 🇪🇺 | |
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| REFORM POLICIES on 01:19 - Jun 21 with 343 views | Robbie |
| REFORM POLICIES on 08:52 - Jun 20 by Kilkennyjack |
Is this the same Farage who promised us that if we voted for his Brexit in 2016 then we would take control of the borders and stop the immigrants arriving ? |
As I mentioned earlier I treat every Politician as a fraud and chancer until proved otherwise on their real commitment to the UK , that short list is a very short list .
Pritti Patel promised big words on stopping the small boats , what a failure she was , file along side Liz Truss in the level of uselessness ,
Out latest lot came in with promises and ideas to get a grip on the gangs , that has worked out .
Farage makes pledges as do the rest of the look after my seat in Westminster MPs .
So far nobody can give the right answers to me . | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 10:33 - Jun 21 with 286 views | SullutaCreturned |
| REFORM POLICIES on 21:54 - Jun 20 by Kilkennyjack |
‘British lawyer Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe played a leading role in its drafting. He chaired the Assembly's Legal and Administrative Questions Committee, which was tasked with drafting the Convention. He, along with other British figures like Lord Layton, Samuel Hoare, Ernest Bevin, and Harold Macmillan, contributed significantly to its creation. The UK was also the first country to sign and ratify the ECHR.’
I am pretty much correct.
I did not say exclusively British.
Yes NATO kept the peace - and guns pointing at guns was needed, however it the international rules based order that has also helped deliver peace. Smaller nations get a say and fairness is seen to be done. Trumps MAGA and Brexit halfwits would torch the lot so they reopen pits without so much health and safety to worry about - and the workers get to work long hours all over again. Not Farage though, no he will at his Gents club in London telling them how he duped the welsh to think he was a man of the people. Oh how he will laugh …. 🇪🇺 |
Well 5 out of over 100 isn't largely in any sense but in better news, when you posted it, it was something positive about British people, mostly English people too and now I managed to get you to defend them too.
Kilky sticking up fpr the English, whatever next 
If you mean the UN you may find smaller countries don't often think it's fair, they get to be heard then they get to be vetoed by a "P5" country and the security council isn't really considered "equal" or fair either.
You're clearly a decent bloke at heart but you are a tad naive. | | | |
| REFORM POLICIES on 10:46 - Jun 23 with 140 views | Kilkennyjack |
| REFORM POLICIES on 10:33 - Jun 21 by SullutaCreturned |
Well 5 out of over 100 isn't largely in any sense but in better news, when you posted it, it was something positive about British people, mostly English people too and now I managed to get you to defend them too.
Kilky sticking up fpr the English, whatever next
If you mean the UN you may find smaller countries don't often think it's fair, they get to be heard then they get to be vetoed by a "P5" country and the security council isn't really considered "equal" or fair either.
You're clearly a decent bloke at heart but you are a tad naive. |
Thank you very much for the feedback, i shall bear it in mind … 🤣 | |
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