| Beeb still biased 14:03 - Jun 19 with 4213 views | trampie |
Beeb still biased for Israelis and against Palestinians a decade after Welsh based professors found they were guilty of the charge, they are still doing it, why ?, are they compromised ? |  |
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| Beeb still biased on 18:16 - Jun 20 with 1087 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Beeb still biased on 18:20 - Jun 19 by trampie |
Well you are at odds with Cardiff uni experts a decade ago and these experts now, they think the beeb is pro Israel. |
The experst you choose to believe say what you already believe.
Other experts say different things. Such is life. We all choose what we want to believe. Some of us can't have our minds changed even when the evidence is overwhelming.
You say you don't support Hamas yet your posts point in a different firection, they are at best lopsided in Hamas favour, at worst biased. |  | | |
| Beeb still biased on 18:28 - Jun 20 with 1065 views | trampie |
| Beeb still biased on 18:16 - Jun 20 by SullutaCreturned |
The experst you choose to believe say what you already believe.
Other experts say different things. Such is life. We all choose what we want to believe. Some of us can't have our minds changed even when the evidence is overwhelming.
You say you don't support Hamas yet your posts point in a different firection, they are at best lopsided in Hamas favour, at worst biased. |
Other experts say differently you say ?, both lots I refer too 10 years or so apart and they look at things like how much coverage they give to each side and if that is not enough for you they look at the positive and negative words they use to describe each side and if that is not enough they look at what questions are asked (or not asked) to each side.
Are you debating that the Beeb is not pro Israel in the Israeli v Palestinian conflict ?, are you defending the BBC as not being biased on this topic ? | |
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| Beeb still biased on 18:52 - Jun 20 with 1045 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Beeb still biased on 18:28 - Jun 20 by trampie |
Other experts say differently you say ?, both lots I refer too 10 years or so apart and they look at things like how much coverage they give to each side and if that is not enough for you they look at the positive and negative words they use to describe each side and if that is not enough they look at what questions are asked (or not asked) to each side.
Are you debating that the Beeb is not pro Israel in the Israeli v Palestinian conflict ?, are you defending the BBC as not being biased on this topic ? |
As I said, other experts say something different, Jackmanandboy posted the link, is that not enough for you?
It wouldn't be because you wear very large blinkers.
I am neither attacking nir defending the BBC, I am pointing out there are contradictory opinions to the ones you promulgate.
I don't know if the BBC is pro Israel because I don't watch the tv news, I sometimes post links from the web pages but in our house we only watch streaming services. I have a news app on my phone that delivers stories from a wide range of outlets, including the beeb, sky, the Guardian, daily mail etc.
As O already told you, when you pist something I look into it, then I may post an answer. | | | |
| Beeb still biased on 19:34 - Jun 20 with 1025 views | trampie |
| Beeb still biased on 18:52 - Jun 20 by SullutaCreturned |
As I said, other experts say something different, Jackmanandboy posted the link, is that not enough for you?
It wouldn't be because you wear very large blinkers.
I am neither attacking nir defending the BBC, I am pointing out there are contradictory opinions to the ones you promulgate.
I don't know if the BBC is pro Israel because I don't watch the tv news, I sometimes post links from the web pages but in our house we only watch streaming services. I have a news app on my phone that delivers stories from a wide range of outlets, including the beeb, sky, the Guardian, daily mail etc.
As O already told you, when you pist something I look into it, then I may post an answer. |
You watch you don't get splinters sitting on that fence. | |
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| Beeb still biased on 20:03 - Jun 20 with 1013 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Beeb still biased on 09:55 - Jun 20 by felixstowe_jack |
The BBC is run by left wingers. It has been for many years. Just last week a Labour Government minster claimed the majority of illegal immigrants arriving by boats were women and children. Fiona did not challenge this despite the official figures showing that the majority are fit single men.
Over the last two years the BBC has steadfastly refused to mention that Hames are TERRORIST. |
Rubbish.
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| Beeb still biased on 11:07 - Jun 21 with 938 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Beeb still biased on 19:34 - Jun 20 by trampie |
You watch you don't get splinters sitting on that fence. |
It's hardly fence sitting to tell you that in my opinion you are pro Hamas and your opinion of the BBC is disputed by other "expert opinions"
You could be wrong, everybody is at some point. Just because YOU post something, it doesn't make it true.
Every media outlet has its own bias, we all have our bias.
There was a debate about thise several years ago, I think it was maybe you that started it, at that time there were people saying the beeb were right wing and others saying it was left wing, my opinions was that if both sides were saying it was the other then it was most likely as neutral as you're going to get.
That's probably still true today. | | | |
| Beeb still biased on 11:37 - Jun 21 with 919 views | trampie |
| Beeb still biased on 11:07 - Jun 21 by SullutaCreturned |
It's hardly fence sitting to tell you that in my opinion you are pro Hamas and your opinion of the BBC is disputed by other "expert opinions"
You could be wrong, everybody is at some point. Just because YOU post something, it doesn't make it true.
Every media outlet has its own bias, we all have our bias.
There was a debate about thise several years ago, I think it was maybe you that started it, at that time there were people saying the beeb were right wing and others saying it was left wing, my opinions was that if both sides were saying it was the other then it was most likely as neutral as you're going to get.
That's probably still true today. |
It is fence sitting you are known for it. | |
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| Beeb still biased on 12:11 - Jun 21 with 895 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Beeb still biased on 11:37 - Jun 21 by trampie |
It is fence sitting you are known for it. |
Well you're wrong. Only one person has accused me of fence sitting, that being your mate Kilkenny.
he resorts to it when backed into a corner and now here you are.
It's not fence sitting to tell you you're wrong. To point out other opinions and to mention differing ooinions.
If you were as bright as you think you are, you'd understand that. And to think you have sai dthe things you post are beyond my comprehension, you can't even comprehend basic language.
Tell you what, I'll watch spome beeb news this weekend, see if I spot any bias. How's that? | | | |
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| Beeb still biased on 12:22 - Jun 21 with 894 views | SullutaCreturned |
Just to keep you happy, Tramp, I had a look on the BBC news site. Doesn't seem biased to me though obviously I cannot speak to the content of live broadcasts.But the Israel-Gaza page seems to be critical of Israel if anything, for all the innocent deaths,
bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c2vdnvdg6xxt
Then there's the bit about pulling a documentary because of "impartiality concerns"
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crenz9d3181o
With the said impartility seemingly coming down on the side of Hamas - attacking Israel.
Doesn't really seem, on the face of it, to be pro Israel bias there. | | | |
| Beeb still biased on 16:12 - Jun 21 with 857 views | trampie |
The problem you have Cat is you are attacking the poster (eg me) and not the post.
You see a post by me and immediately look to attack me because you don't like my politics, you need to attack the post if you disagree and not the poster.
In this instance you need to attack the experts findings that think the BBC are pro Israel if you think the BBC are not pro Israel, its not just one expert its loads of them that have done extensive research looking at all angles.
I can't see how anyone being fair-minded can disagree with their findings and their methods used to reach those findings. | |
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| Beeb still biased on 18:28 - Jun 21 with 827 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Beeb still biased on 16:12 - Jun 21 by trampie |
The problem you have Cat is you are attacking the poster (eg me) and not the post.
You see a post by me and immediately look to attack me because you don't like my politics, you need to attack the post if you disagree and not the poster.
In this instance you need to attack the experts findings that think the BBC are pro Israel if you think the BBC are not pro Israel, its not just one expert its loads of them that have done extensive research looking at all angles.
I can't see how anyone being fair-minded can disagree with their findings and their methods used to reach those findings. |
As I said, I have looked and there are other opinions, you say loads of them back your opinion but how many examples did you give? 2 was it?
I also had a look at the israel/Gaza page on the Beeb and it was tougher on Israel than Hamas.
I've told you, whether I agree or disagree, I post that way. Just remember who threw the first stone in this and that once it's done then all is fair. Then think about why it is so many people disagree with what you post. | | | |
| Beeb still biased on 19:01 - Jun 21 with 821 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Beeb still biased on 18:28 - Jun 21 by SullutaCreturned |
As I said, I have looked and there are other opinions, you say loads of them back your opinion but how many examples did you give? 2 was it?
I also had a look at the israel/Gaza page on the Beeb and it was tougher on Israel than Hamas.
I've told you, whether I agree or disagree, I post that way. Just remember who threw the first stone in this and that once it's done then all is fair. Then think about why it is so many people disagree with what you post. |
There are examples here.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/07/bbc-breached-guidelines-more-1500-ti |  |
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| Beeb still biased on 20:23 - Jun 21 with 789 views | trampie |
| Beeb still biased on 18:28 - Jun 21 by SullutaCreturned |
As I said, I have looked and there are other opinions, you say loads of them back your opinion but how many examples did you give? 2 was it?
I also had a look at the israel/Gaza page on the Beeb and it was tougher on Israel than Hamas.
I've told you, whether I agree or disagree, I post that way. Just remember who threw the first stone in this and that once it's done then all is fair. Then think about why it is so many people disagree with what you post. |
The Cardiff one in 2013 on counting was 10 authors, 10 researchers and 112 pages long and this latest one by different people was 188 pages long, the authors analysed over 35,000 pieces of BBC journalism and used AI in their investigation. | |
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| Beeb still biased on 20:31 - Jun 21 with 774 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Beeb still biased on 20:23 - Jun 21 by trampie |
The Cardiff one in 2013 on counting was 10 authors, 10 researchers and 112 pages long and this latest one by different people was 188 pages long, the authors analysed over 35,000 pieces of BBC journalism and used AI in their investigation. |
Was that Al Hosseini Khamenei? | |
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| Beeb still biased on 22:14 - Jun 21 with 743 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Beeb still biased on 20:31 - Jun 21 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Was that Al Hosseini Khamenei? |
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| Beeb still biased on 01:46 - Jun 22 with 708 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Beeb still biased on 12:11 - Jun 21 by SullutaCreturned |
Well you're wrong. Only one person has accused me of fence sitting, that being your mate Kilkenny.
he resorts to it when backed into a corner and now here you are.
It's not fence sitting to tell you you're wrong. To point out other opinions and to mention differing ooinions.
If you were as bright as you think you are, you'd understand that. And to think you have sai dthe things you post are beyond my comprehension, you can't even comprehend basic language.
Tell you what, I'll watch spome beeb news this weekend, see if I spot any bias. How's that? |
No I resort to it when you against Labour and against Tory.
You are welsh and british.
We all know there are 2 sides to everything.
But most of us will pick a horse in the race even if it’s caveated.
Not you - you try to take both positions.
Thats sitting on the fence by most people’s definition.
Next you will be Swansea and Cardiff, wales and England.
Get off the blydi fence mun … | |
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| Beeb still biased on 07:03 - Jun 22 with 664 views | trampie |
This guy has the Israeli lobby number, they don't pull the wool over his eyes, he's written about them and had documentaries done before.
The influence they have is frightening, I think they would back a foreign power before our own country, I think they are dangerous people. | |
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| Beeb still biased on 08:44 - Jun 22 with 616 views | onehunglow |
| Beeb still biased on 14:18 - Jun 19 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Duplicate post. [Post edited 19 Jun 14:23]
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BBC is biased against Israel
Who do we support Iran and Russia
Or
USA and the rest of us
Don is right here
It's a simple choice
Yet , some support our enemies as they did in WW2 | |
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| Beeb still biased on 09:01 - Jun 22 with 593 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Beeb still biased on 01:46 - Jun 22 by Kilkennyjack |
No I resort to it when you against Labour and against Tory.
You are welsh and british.
We all know there are 2 sides to everything.
But most of us will pick a horse in the race even if it’s caveated.
Not you - you try to take both positions.
Thats sitting on the fence by most people’s definition.
Next you will be Swansea and Cardiff, wales and England.
Get off the blydi fence mun … |
In politics there are many sides and being against labour and Tory isn't fence sitting, specially when my stated aim is to vote Plaid Cymru next time around.
I am Welsh and British, when you fill out forms and it asks for nationality, which choice do you put, do you go for the British/Welsh/English/Scottish?NI or do you identify as something else?
I do pick horses, in this case Plaid. A choice you seemed quite happy with when I was dissing Reform but it seems you'll turn to hypocrisy when in defence of Trampie.
I don't take both positions, my position on the BBC is that I don't watch the tv news so I cannot comment on it but the web pages have stories that arecritical of Israel and I posted that link. I am saying, if anything, that the BBC is more neutral than Trampie claims but at the very least it is not as pro Israel as Trampoe says.
Quote me where Ihave taken both positions, go on. See how many examples you have. | | | |
| Beeb still biased on 09:42 - Jun 22 with 540 views | trampie |
| Beeb still biased on 09:01 - Jun 22 by SullutaCreturned |
In politics there are many sides and being against labour and Tory isn't fence sitting, specially when my stated aim is to vote Plaid Cymru next time around.
I am Welsh and British, when you fill out forms and it asks for nationality, which choice do you put, do you go for the British/Welsh/English/Scottish?NI or do you identify as something else?
I do pick horses, in this case Plaid. A choice you seemed quite happy with when I was dissing Reform but it seems you'll turn to hypocrisy when in defence of Trampie.
I don't take both positions, my position on the BBC is that I don't watch the tv news so I cannot comment on it but the web pages have stories that arecritical of Israel and I posted that link. I am saying, if anything, that the BBC is more neutral than Trampie claims but at the very least it is not as pro Israel as Trampoe says.
Quote me where Ihave taken both positions, go on. See how many examples you have. |
If you can't comment, what you off about then ?, I follow Geopolitics and see what the Beeb have to say so my view on this matter is more valid than yours and I think the Beeb are pro Israel. | |
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| Beeb still biased on 10:51 - Jun 22 with 504 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Beeb still biased on 09:42 - Jun 22 by trampie |
If you can't comment, what you off about then ?, I follow Geopolitics and see what the Beeb have to say so my view on this matter is more valid than yours and I think the Beeb are pro Israel. |
I rather think that an organisation biased in favour of Israel would not give a good chunk of it's news webpage to Palestinian Action a day before they are going to be proscribed as a terrorist organisation. | |
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| Beeb still biased on 11:13 - Jun 22 with 478 views | raynor94 |
| Beeb still biased on 09:42 - Jun 22 by trampie |
If you can't comment, what you off about then ?, I follow Geopolitics and see what the Beeb have to say so my view on this matter is more valid than yours and I think the Beeb are pro Israel. |
Yet they had the Iranian ambassador on this morning as well as the Israeli President who certainly wasn't given an easy ride.
And nobody in Israel certainly doesn't think BBC shows bias towards them more the opposite |  |
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| Beeb still biased on 11:24 - Jun 22 with 457 views | Whiterockin |
| Beeb still biased on 11:13 - Jun 22 by raynor94 |
Yet they had the Iranian ambassador on this morning as well as the Israeli President who certainly wasn't given an easy ride.
And nobody in Israel certainly doesn't think BBC shows bias towards them more the opposite |
It's not unusual to find fault where there is none if it doesn't fit your agenda. |  | | |
| Beeb still biased on 13:54 - Jun 22 with 337 views | trampie |
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| Beeb still biased on 16:22 - Jun 22 with 296 views | onehunglow |
| Beeb still biased on 13:54 - Jun 22 by trampie |
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You watch English media then ?
Yeah | |
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