| UK inflation increasing is partly Oasis’ fault 07:02 - Aug 20 with 1568 views | PatfromPoole |
Apparently.
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| UK inflation increasing is partly Oasis’ fault on 18:30 - Aug 20 with 302 views | saint22 |
| UK inflation increasing is partly Oasis’ fault on 07:44 - Aug 20 by PatfromPoole |
A healthy proportion of airfares and fuel prices is government-imposed tax and duty, I believe (?).
They are round are way, anyway. |
too right and they are a fkn joke
Booked two mileage tix for October - £780 in taxes
Airlines take the p155 with prices these days and have no-one exercising any control over them and then the govt add exorbitant taxes on top
Oh and then come school holidays fares triple |  | | |
| UK inflation increasing is partly Oasis’ fault on 18:38 - Aug 20 with 292 views | Ifonly |
| UK inflation increasing is partly Oasis’ fault on 17:44 - Aug 20 by City_boy |
Reference the comments about outsourcing. I have many years working in the City and managing major IT and Business transformation programmes (M&A), with a number of the leading overseas Outsourcing companies.
Yes, they are cheaper, but this mostly comes at a price further down the line. The quality is often questionable, with significant delays , financial over spend and failure to deliver the agreed benefits.
Some high profile cases include; DWP, Cyber attack on M&S, British Airways failures and data breach, Disclosure and Barring service (£220m over spend and 4 years late). Carillion, Emergency Alert system, Income Tax project and who will ever forget the Post Office/Horizon scandal with Fujitsu.
Many companies may only outsource their system Penetration Testing, but poor standards and quality have caused problems when systems go live.
Cheap is not always best ! [Post edited 20 Aug 17:46]
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I agree that cheaper is not always better but I wasn't claiming it was. I was saying that if you want the more expensive option then that has to be paid for up-front, which means higher taxes and/or borrowing. Plus, if you want the labour to be UK based, then how do you replace all those Indian workers with a fixed pool of UK (IT) skilled labour without pushing up the price further?
Also, a lot of the issues you refer to are really about the inability of government departments to run IT projects. As you may know, big problems like this are much rarer in the private sector, but unfortunately common in government.
Plus, a lot of these problems have occurred from using UK based labour anyway, not overseas outsourcers e.g. although Horizon was a Fujitsu project, it was delivered by Fujitsu UK which was basically a UK systems house called ICL which was taken over by Fujitsu. So, let's not overstate the quality of UK IT workers. All of the big IT houses now have coding factories overseas and they deliver lots of successful projects. If the model didn't work, people would have stopped using it by now. | | | |
| UK inflation increasing is partly Oasis’ fault on 19:31 - Aug 20 with 241 views | 1885_SFC |
| UK inflation increasing is partly Oasis’ fault on 18:30 - Aug 20 by saint22 |
too right and they are a fkn joke
Booked two mileage tix for October - £780 in taxes
Airlines take the p155 with prices these days and have no-one exercising any control over them and then the govt add exorbitant taxes on top
Oh and then come school holidays fares triple |
Hopefully you'll be flying before Reeves's Autumn budget then because after it, you'll be paying a fortune more for a seat. In her eyes, if you can afford to fly - then you're rich & need taxing more.
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| UK inflation increasing is partly Oasis’ fault on 19:41 - Aug 20 with 233 views | City_boy |
| UK inflation increasing is partly Oasis’ fault on 18:38 - Aug 20 by Ifonly |
I agree that cheaper is not always better but I wasn't claiming it was. I was saying that if you want the more expensive option then that has to be paid for up-front, which means higher taxes and/or borrowing. Plus, if you want the labour to be UK based, then how do you replace all those Indian workers with a fixed pool of UK (IT) skilled labour without pushing up the price further?
Also, a lot of the issues you refer to are really about the inability of government departments to run IT projects. As you may know, big problems like this are much rarer in the private sector, but unfortunately common in government.
Plus, a lot of these problems have occurred from using UK based labour anyway, not overseas outsourcers e.g. although Horizon was a Fujitsu project, it was delivered by Fujitsu UK which was basically a UK systems house called ICL which was taken over by Fujitsu. So, let's not overstate the quality of UK IT workers. All of the big IT houses now have coding factories overseas and they deliver lots of successful projects. If the model didn't work, people would have stopped using it by now. |
I accept that the Fujitsu example, was not a good one. However, whilst Horizon was developed by ICL. Fujitsu had acquired 90% stake in ICL dating back to the early 90's. The Fujitsu (UK) legal entity was not created until 2002.
I also agree, that a number of companies do use Off shore development centres, but there is a big trend with UK companies bringing software development back in house, because of quality concerns, delivery and their ability to control projects and costs better.
The Outsourcing company rates may look attractive at first, but these savings quickly erode if development takes twice as long to deliver or many iterations to get right. [Post edited 20 Aug 19:55]
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