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No hope 09:45 - Oct 17 with 2679 viewstrampie

The Prime Minister of the UK, the leader of the opposition, BBC, Sky, right wing groups all in bed together appearing to supporting hooligans.

They want to allow Maccabi Tel Aviv fans go to Villa Park , anyone that knows anything about football hooligans and Maccabi will know why the ban (that some are hoping to have over turned) was put in place its because of their hooligan following.

I was dismayed at the reporting that went on after they played Ajax out in Amsterdam, the train station (no schools chant), the taxi driver, houses and property, the Spanish floods silence and after that some 'locals' defended their turf and you had Sky and BBC, particularly Sky saying antisemitic attacks in Amsterdam blah blah blah - shocking reporting and it must have been because people pulling the strings had things in common with the Maccabi fans, the Mayor if I recall (can't be arsed to check), don't know if he was wrongly advised or also had things I common with Maccabi seemed to be backing the initial news reports.

Due to mobile phones, witnesses reports of people on the ground it emerged that the reporting was totally wrong and Maccabi supporters weren't the victims but the perpetrators, why did the likes of Sky not apologise, why weren't their employees disciplined.

We've got Labour, Conservative and right wing groups (who ironically want to stop immigrants but want these people in the country) all together, at least lots of posts on social media are pointing out its not Jewish people banned, its not Israelis per se banned its Maccabi Tel Aviv fans for football hooliganism.

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No hope on 16:50 - Oct 17 with 588 viewsBoundy

No hope on 12:21 - Oct 17 by Demitrius

It's a politically and religiously motivated decision based on threats of violence towards Israeli football teams. Several incidents involving the Israeli national side and the Hapoel basketball team in Spain, Norway and Italy in the last fortnight. All instigated by the Pro-Pal brigade.

Maccabi are no angels of course but you wouldn't expect any team to just take the intimidation and violence aimed at them and not respond or defend themselves. The Amsterdam Police Chief said afterwards there were incidents on both sides but the initial aggro that kicked it all off was aimed at the Israeli football fans for being Israelis. I think given the pattern of antisemitic hate all over Europe the last few years I'd be inclined to believe him.


Where will it end , discrimination against a supporters group who happen to be if a Jewish persuasion, the police seem to have given in (yet again) to the Islamists who are getting noiser and louder .

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No hope on 16:53 - Oct 17 with 582 viewstrampie

No hope on 16:47 - Oct 17 by raynor94

Because you are troll, and all these false questions claiming innocence when you enjoy stirring things up


You are the troll, remember you tried to say I was lying for saying the CES wasn't working nights when it turns out you finished in the steelworks a decade before, you never apologised ?, clearly not man enough, not brought up right.

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No hope on 17:11 - Oct 17 with 538 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

No hope on 16:50 - Oct 17 by Boundy

Where will it end , discrimination against a supporters group who happen to be if a Jewish persuasion, the police seem to have given in (yet again) to the Islamists who are getting noiser and louder .


The UK Government has indicated that the decision was about protecting the Maccabi fans, what a country we live in.

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No hope on 17:14 - Oct 17 with 534 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

No hope on 17:11 - Oct 17 by JACKMANANDBOY

The UK Government has indicated that the decision was about protecting the Maccabi fans, what a country we live in.


That suggests they don’t trust the local population of Birmingham to behave themselves.

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No hope on 17:17 - Oct 17 with 515 viewstrampie

No hope on 17:11 - Oct 17 by JACKMANANDBOY

The UK Government has indicated that the decision was about protecting the Maccabi fans, what a country we live in.


Have they got that right though ?, is that the case or was the decision made to protect English people both fans and the public from the Maccabi ultras.

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No hope on 17:20 - Oct 17 with 510 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

No hope on 17:17 - Oct 17 by trampie

Have they got that right though ?, is that the case or was the decision made to protect English people both fans and the public from the Maccabi ultras.


Well they said what they said.

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No hope on 17:21 - Oct 17 with 508 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

No hope on 17:17 - Oct 17 by trampie

Have they got that right though ?, is that the case or was the decision made to protect English people both fans and the public from the Maccabi ultras.


They were only given 1000 tickets. Even if a quarter of them are “ultras” I’m sure the police could deal with the situation. Let alone the population of over a million people.

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No hope on 17:29 - Oct 17 with 472 viewstrampie

No hope on 17:20 - Oct 17 by JACKMANANDBOY

Well they said what they said.


Absolutely they said what they said, i haven't seen what they said but i dont dispute what you say, but like i said have they got that right ?, is that the case or was the decision made to protect English people both fans and the public from the Maccabi ultras.

What do you think ?

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No hope on 17:31 - Oct 17 with 473 viewsraynor94

No hope on 16:53 - Oct 17 by trampie

You are the troll, remember you tried to say I was lying for saying the CES wasn't working nights when it turns out you finished in the steelworks a decade before, you never apologised ?, clearly not man enough, not brought up right.


What on earth are you on about making things up again if you care to remember I messaged you and explained I finished in CES in 2015 and had worked full continental up to that date

I don't want to spoil a thread so message me privately

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No hope on 17:31 - Oct 17 with 473 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

No hope on 17:21 - Oct 17 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

They were only given 1000 tickets. Even if a quarter of them are “ultras” I’m sure the police could deal with the situation. Let alone the population of over a million people.


We have people making direct threats to the Maccabi fans, the mayor of Birmingham says it's about protecting them and so does the UK Government. If we can't control 1,000 fans then all football matches should be behind closed doors.

Maybe a few extremists are now dictating how our country works.
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No hope on 17:37 - Oct 17 with 446 viewstrampie

No hope on 17:31 - Oct 17 by raynor94

What on earth are you on about making things up again if you care to remember I messaged you and explained I finished in CES in 2015 and had worked full continental up to that date

I don't want to spoil a thread so message me privately


Yes you finished in 2015, not 2025, I was writing in 2025 about recent times and you was calling me a liar and now we've got to the bottom of it that you are a decade out of date, yet you are not big enough to apologise.

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No hope on 17:43 - Oct 17 with 438 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

No hope on 17:29 - Oct 17 by trampie

Absolutely they said what they said, i haven't seen what they said but i dont dispute what you say, but like i said have they got that right ?, is that the case or was the decision made to protect English people both fans and the public from the Maccabi ultras.

What do you think ?


Here is the text from the DCMS Committee today to the West Midlands Police.

"We are deeply concerned that your force does not believe it is capable of keeping football fans safe, away fans, including those who live in the UK, to be allowed to attend the match," the letter reads.

So that's three separate Government bodies saying the same thing.

I give up.

I
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No hope on 17:52 - Oct 17 with 416 viewsraynor94

No hope on 17:37 - Oct 17 by trampie

Yes you finished in 2015, not 2025, I was writing in 2025 about recent times and you was calling me a liar and now we've got to the bottom of it that you are a decade out of date, yet you are not big enough to apologise.


I think you need to go back over the original thread in 25 years of posting on here I have never put anyone on ignore until now

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No hope on 17:58 - Oct 17 with 398 viewstrampie

No hope on 17:52 - Oct 17 by raynor94

I think you need to go back over the original thread in 25 years of posting on here I have never put anyone on ignore until now


Too eager to have a go at me, you didn't comput I was currently working there and you tried to say I was lying, that you had worked there for yearsv(so had i), when it turns out you was taking about a decade earlier, so man up and apologise.

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No hope on 18:01 - Oct 17 with 386 viewstrampie

No hope on 17:43 - Oct 17 by JACKMANANDBOY

Here is the text from the DCMS Committee today to the West Midlands Police.

"We are deeply concerned that your force does not believe it is capable of keeping football fans safe, away fans, including those who live in the UK, to be allowed to attend the match," the letter reads.

So that's three separate Government bodies saying the same thing.

I give up.

I
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There we are.

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No hope on 18:06 - Oct 17 with 374 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

No hope on 18:01 - Oct 17 by trampie

Maccabi Tel Aviv: Why have Israeli club's fans been banned from Aston Villa Europa League game? Key questions answered | Football News | Sky Sports https://share.google/z8cKeLntuvApc6L4u

There we are.


I told you I give up.

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No hope on 18:11 - Oct 17 with 362 viewstrampie

No hope on 18:06 - Oct 17 by JACKMANANDBOY

I told you I give up.


What do you mean ?, its the Birmingham's Safety Advisory Group that made the decision and I've given the info in the link.

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No hope on 18:14 - Oct 17 with 356 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

No hope on 18:11 - Oct 17 by trampie

What do you mean ?, its the Birmingham's Safety Advisory Group that made the decision and I've given the info in the link.


I give up means, I give up.

I give up.

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No hope on 18:17 - Oct 17 with 339 viewstrampie

No hope on 18:14 - Oct 17 by JACKMANANDBOY

I give up means, I give up.

I give up.


I dont know why you given up, but OK fine, you given up.

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No hope on 18:32 - Oct 17 with 307 viewsshingle

No hope on 12:11 - Oct 17 by trampie

No mention of possible danger towards the local population then ?, people and property in Amsterdam were attacked.


Intead of all this bias ranting your coming out with you really should be able to answer the simple question that he asked you as it was a pretty straight forward question.
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No hope on 18:51 - Oct 17 with 286 viewstrampie

No hope on 18:32 - Oct 17 by shingle

Intead of all this bias ranting your coming out with you really should be able to answer the simple question that he asked you as it was a pretty straight forward question.


What question ?

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No hope on 19:08 - Oct 17 with 248 viewstrampie

Abuse reported.

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No hope on 19:26 - Oct 17 with 224 viewsDemitrius

No hope on 19:08 - Oct 17 by trampie

Abuse reported.


….and there it is…. Your entire raison d’ëtre for being on this site and J.net.

To troll and post extremist left wing, anti-British offensive shyte that’s a million miles from most people on here’s lived experience and then run and cry victim and get people banned and shut down debate when they respond in exasperation at your cyclops nonsense…

It’s a shit hobby… Have you considered base jumping with or without a parachute ?
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No hope on 19:43 - Oct 17 with 199 viewstrampie

No hope on 19:26 - Oct 17 by Demitrius

….and there it is…. Your entire raison d’ëtre for being on this site and J.net.

To troll and post extremist left wing, anti-British offensive shyte that’s a million miles from most people on here’s lived experience and then run and cry victim and get people banned and shut down debate when they respond in exasperation at your cyclops nonsense…

It’s a shit hobby… Have you considered base jumping with or without a parachute ?
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I don't call people names, I can't otherwise the cabal would get me banned, I dont troll I post what I think, I'm not anti British, I am proud to be British.
What's J.net ? if it's the other site I doubt if I've done 10 posts on there.

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No hope on 19:53 - Oct 17 with 499 viewsDemitrius

No hope on 19:43 - Oct 17 by trampie

I don't call people names, I can't otherwise the cabal would get me banned, I dont troll I post what I think, I'm not anti British, I am proud to be British.
What's J.net ? if it's the other site I doubt if I've done 10 posts on there.


You’ve posted 484 times on there and been exposed as a tedious Troll on numerous occassions …

Or is that a different Trampie with a historically retarded flag as an avatar ? Almost as irrelevant as the Palestinian red, black , green and white rag…

10 posts…😂…Jesus H Christ you need psychological help
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