| Corona Virus 22:39 - Mar 7 with 586827 views | SgorioFruit |
Sorry for new thread,
But how bad do you lot reckon it’s going to get here in the UK?
I just been watching the news. Looking nasty in Italy. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 23:29 - Apr 11 with 2334 views | DJack |
| Corona Virus on 21:25 - Apr 11 by leighton1318 |
A Marxist would say it is essential to keep the booze flowing. Edit - that the Govt would want to see the booze flowing ... to stop the people from rioting. [Post edited 11 Apr 2020 21:27]
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Normally you are not a prick...well tonight you have excelled yourself. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 23:34 - Apr 11 with 2318 views | chad |
| Corona Virus on 23:28 - Apr 11 by DJack |
You are a tedious prick at the best of times...do STFU. |
Projection? |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 23:48 - Apr 11 with 2297 views | DJack |
| Corona Virus on 23:34 - Apr 11 by chad |
Projection? |
So I'm a prick, guess what that makes you then!  | |
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| Corona Virus on 00:18 - Apr 12 with 2270 views | chad |
| Corona Virus on 23:48 - Apr 11 by DJack |
So I'm a prick, guess what that makes you then! |
You seemed to have missed the question mark, it was you who brought up pricks not me, abuse not my thing
As for what that makes me - well Chad of course | | | |
| Corona Virus on 00:28 - Apr 12 with 2262 views | majorraglan |
| Corona Virus on 17:29 - Apr 11 by londonlisa2001 |
Of course it does. But SHE can’t do that today. That’s the only point I’m making.
I think, the way that these investigations go, an apology would be seen as an admission that they could have done better.
That’s the issue really. It’s not that the shortage of PPE isn’t a disgrace, it’s whether it realistically could have been done differently given the situation. All countries seem to be saying similar things to us. The bit I think that they are absolutely culpable for, is that my understanding is that companies like Burberry volunteered weeks ago to manufacture gowns and that they weren’t taken up on it. That’s a complete disgrace if true. |
The Telegraph is reporting an shortages of PPE including gowns and supplies are being flown in from China and that B and Q have donated a million masks(Article is behind a paywall). Meanwhile the Sunday Mirror is exporting shortages of medication.
If companies like Burberry offered to make surgical gowns a couple of weeks ago, why on Earth didn’t they order a load, it’s a no brainier. There’s a link to below to a Port Talbot company who have worked with Tata Steel and the Royal Mint to produce visors, their first production run did a 1,000, they are gearing up to 10,000 a day and have enough material to make 190,000. We need to use the facilities and talent in this country to turn out the PPE our front line staff need. Maybe bin bag manufacturers can make aprons instead of ball bags plastics etc. There are options, it’s a case of harnessing our companies.
https://www.business-live.co.uk/manufacturing/port-talbot-firm-producing-nearly- |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 02:14 - Apr 12 with 2212 views | DJack |
| Corona Virus on 00:18 - Apr 12 by chad |
You seemed to have missed the question mark, it was you who brought up pricks not me, abuse not my thing
As for what that makes me - well Chad of course |
The lady doth protest to much eh s PRAT ty.
As to abuse "not your thing"..deluded, the barbs you throw at your bet noire and recently myself indicate a different frame of mind. | |
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| Corona Virus on 02:36 - Apr 12 with 2201 views | DJack |
Hey Chod, here is an article for you to try to attack Lisa or myself with.. Oh no, it ontains facts so you cant!
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-020-0424-9 | |
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| Corona Virus on 09:50 - Apr 12 with 2083 views | sainthelens |
New Govt recommendation are reducing the benefits for dwarfs. Gonna be tough for them.
They'll struggle to put food on the table. |  | | |
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| Corona Virus on 09:59 - Apr 12 with 2076 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Corona Virus on 09:50 - Apr 12 by sainthelens |
New Govt recommendation are reducing the benefits for dwarfs. Gonna be tough for them.
They'll struggle to put food on the table. |
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| Corona Virus on 10:09 - Apr 12 with 2058 views | Fireboy2 |
| Corona Virus on 09:50 - Apr 12 by sainthelens |
New Govt recommendation are reducing the benefits for dwarfs. Gonna be tough for them.
They'll struggle to put food on the table. |
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| Corona Virus on 10:36 - Apr 12 with 2029 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Corona Virus on 23:14 - Apr 11 by majorraglan |
The CEO’s do need to be held to account, but ultimately they are briefed and work to guidance published by the Dept of Health, PHE and PHW. How can they buy all this xtra kit if they have no money and are already struggling to balance the books?
They have got this wrong, they should have been buying masks, gloves, gowns and looking at scoping ventilator design and manufacturing months ago, not a mad rush in a March. They are talking about logistics delivering PPE etc. We can call on the army, Hermes, TNT, and numerous of other contractors it’s mental. |
That’s the sort of person who’d blame the Grenfell residents for the fire.
Let’s not forget who put the CEO system for the NHS in place - it was the government. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 10:44 - Apr 12 with 2014 views | Kilkennyjack |
At last the questions are being asked straight.
No answers obviously.....
Dreadful people running UK govt at the moment.
Zero empathy.
Focusing on throwing the scientists, the health care workers, and the public under the bus.
Worst. In. Europe.
Explain that. Nobody fecking cares that Johnson is in ‘good spirits’ ffs ... |  |
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| Corona Virus on 10:56 - Apr 12 with 1993 views | majorraglan |
| Corona Virus on 10:44 - Apr 12 by Kilkennyjack |
At last the questions are being asked straight.
No answers obviously.....
Dreadful people running UK govt at the moment.
Zero empathy.
Focusing on throwing the scientists, the health care workers, and the public under the bus.
Worst. In. Europe.
Explain that. Nobody fecking cares that Johnson is in ‘good spirits’ ffs ... |
It’s certainly not looking good, Italy was lambasted for the way they managed it and we are on a trajectory that could make it even worse.
These people are putting themselves up for offices of state, the awkward questions have to be asked account and must be answered. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 11:17 - Apr 12 with 1961 views | leighton1318 |
| Corona Virus on 23:29 - Apr 11 by DJack |
Normally you are not a prick...well tonight you have excelled yourself. |
I’m guessing you don’t agree with my point? Your language is unclear.
Let me explain. The Marxist angle is that Govt lets the masses have just enough to be comfortable and stay in their place. The simple pleasures of alcoholic refreshment fall into that category.
Take the booze away, as a few psychos on this thread seems to want, and you will be far more likely to precipitate trouble.
I’m not (particularly) a Marxist btw but The Local State by Cynthia Cockburn is (was) a very good read. [Post edited 12 Apr 2020 11:28]
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| Corona Virus on 11:21 - Apr 12 with 1950 views | Highjack |
| Corona Virus on 10:44 - Apr 12 by Kilkennyjack |
At last the questions are being asked straight.
No answers obviously.....
Dreadful people running UK govt at the moment.
Zero empathy.
Focusing on throwing the scientists, the health care workers, and the public under the bus.
Worst. In. Europe.
Explain that. Nobody fecking cares that Johnson is in ‘good spirits’ ffs ... |
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| Corona Virus on 11:47 - Apr 12 with 1908 views | magicdaps10 |
| Corona Virus on 11:21 - Apr 12 by Highjack |
Femi ffs. |
It's disgusting the questions being asked, answers that can't 100% be given and answers not to be given to avoid even more mass panic/worry in the country.
Some questions can't be answered and the obvious ones we all know the answer, there is no easy route with this virus and some of you need to fook up and realise the difficult situation many including the gov are in, to make underhand gains in the scenario we are in is absolutely disgusting.
There should be no hate in this time..... We need support and positivity. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 11:54 - Apr 12 with 1896 views | Highjack |
| Corona Virus on 11:47 - Apr 12 by magicdaps10 |
It's disgusting the questions being asked, answers that can't 100% be given and answers not to be given to avoid even more mass panic/worry in the country.
Some questions can't be answered and the obvious ones we all know the answer, there is no easy route with this virus and some of you need to fook up and realise the difficult situation many including the gov are in, to make underhand gains in the scenario we are in is absolutely disgusting.
There should be no hate in this time..... We need support and positivity. |
People like Femi are just so full of hate for Britain that compassion and logic just don’t count with him. We were always going to have one of the highest death tolls in Europe because we have one of the highest populations in Europe. | |
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| Corona Virus on 12:01 - Apr 12 with 1876 views | dickythorpe |
I repeat, watch Andrew Cuomo's daily updates around 4pm on CNN
I know it's about New York, BUT a lot of far more articulate people speak about "flattening the curve" etc
And best of all, no points scoring or trying to trip anyone up.
In Britain we always want someone to blame or try and prove not enough was/is being done.
Already people whinging about the economy and wealth and not being out and about.
"In it together" be fúcked. [Post edited 12 Apr 2020 12:02]
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| Corona Virus on 12:04 - Apr 12 with 1869 views | raynor94 |
| Corona Virus on 20:40 - Apr 11 by hobo |
All alcohol should be removed from sale. Looking at the queues from the local supermarket yesterday, and the scores of people leaving the store with beer/wine was shameful |
Do you enjoy a drink then? |  |
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| Corona Virus on 12:07 - Apr 12 with 1862 views | magicdaps10 |
| Corona Virus on 11:54 - Apr 12 by Highjack |
People like Femi are just so full of hate for Britain that compassion and logic just don’t count with him. We were always going to have one of the highest death tolls in Europe because we have one of the highest populations in Europe. |
The past needs to be left there, our country is not the same country led by the same gov 100s years ago.
Its sad that people still live with this hate in them and when they are using that hate to have a dig in the situation we are in today....... They are no better than those imbeciles 100s of years ago. | |
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| Corona Virus on 12:09 - Apr 12 with 1858 views | jasper_T |
| Corona Virus on 11:54 - Apr 12 by Highjack |
People like Femi are just so full of hate for Britain that compassion and logic just don’t count with him. We were always going to have one of the highest death tolls in Europe because we have one of the highest populations in Europe. |
Germany 83,783,942 (2,871)
United Kingdom 67,886,011 (9,875)
France 65,273,511 (13,832)
Italy 60,461,826 (19,468)
Spain 46,754,778 (16,606)
Belgium 11,589,623 (3,600)
Wales 3,136,800 (351) | | | |
| Corona Virus on 12:11 - Apr 12 with 1852 views | magicdaps10 |
| Corona Virus on 12:01 - Apr 12 by dickythorpe |
I repeat, watch Andrew Cuomo's daily updates around 4pm on CNN
I know it's about New York, BUT a lot of far more articulate people speak about "flattening the curve" etc
And best of all, no points scoring or trying to trip anyone up.
In Britain we always want someone to blame or try and prove not enough was/is being done.
Already people whinging about the economy and wealth and not being out and about.
"In it together" be fúcked. [Post edited 12 Apr 2020 12:02]
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No wonder MPs don't answer questions or hesitate a lot..... When they know everyone is waiting to jump on what they say.
This is not about alcohol going up by 2% here! | |
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| Corona Virus on 12:42 - Apr 12 with 1809 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Corona Virus on 11:54 - Apr 12 by Highjack |
People like Femi are just so full of hate for Britain that compassion and logic just don’t count with him. We were always going to have one of the highest death tolls in Europe because we have one of the highest populations in Europe. |
Attacking the messenger when you don't like the message ?
Uk Govt has fecked this up big time, and people should not be afraid to say it.
I think people that call it out are far more caring for this country, than people who meekly accept an approach that has clearly failed.
NHS lions led by UK Govt donkeys.
Where is the PPE kit that the nurses need ? | |
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| Corona Virus on 13:03 - Apr 12 with 1770 views | PentyrchJack |
The death toll reported is just the tip of the iceberg as it excludes patients who die in care homes and in the community. The Govt should have the balls to clarify that the daily numbers are only a fraction of the total deaths. This may then reinforce the "STAY IN" message. There's an interesting article which shows the death toll could be many times more based on research in Italy:
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-04-01/coronavirus-italy-shows-we
Italy’s experience shows that countries may also be underestimating the other side of the ratio: the death toll. As hospitals become overcrowded, patients are being asked to stay at home until they display the most serious symptoms. Many will die in their houses or nursing homes and may not even be counted as Covid-19 cases unless they’re tested post-mortem. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 13:12 - Apr 12 with 2398 views | magicdaps10 |
| Corona Virus on 13:03 - Apr 12 by PentyrchJack |
The death toll reported is just the tip of the iceberg as it excludes patients who die in care homes and in the community. The Govt should have the balls to clarify that the daily numbers are only a fraction of the total deaths. This may then reinforce the "STAY IN" message. There's an interesting article which shows the death toll could be many times more based on research in Italy:
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-04-01/coronavirus-italy-shows-we
Italy’s experience shows that countries may also be underestimating the other side of the ratio: the death toll. As hospitals become overcrowded, patients are being asked to stay at home until they display the most serious symptoms. Many will die in their houses or nursing homes and may not even be counted as Covid-19 cases unless they’re tested post-mortem. |
The death toll reported needs to be more truthful in many countries.
My sister/brother in law are gardai and the amount of covid 19 deaths not declared in county Sligo is staggering. Old people homes closing because the social distancing can't be adhered to due to its size, the deaths being put down to old age.
Unfortunately a lot of countries will give true figures, others will look at the long game in terms of praise of numbers. Don't be foolish to believe everything that you read...... Unfortunately there is going to be a lot playing the gain game and aiming to come out of it with plaudits rather than give the full truth/s. | |
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