| Russia invade Ukraine 14:17 - Dec 23 with 204604 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Discuss.
Also why is Putin always described in the media as this rugged strongman? He’s barely five foot tall with his high heels on.
But that’s another debate.
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:19 - Mar 12 with 1785 views | controversial_jack |
Look at the source not the media. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:48 - Mar 12 with 1746 views | Scotia |
I certainly seem to be missing the wholesale slaughter of completely innocent people carried out by the US. Its not in that link.
You seem to think that's acceptable because it's done by Putin or you're just a bit stupid. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:00 - Mar 12 with 1734 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 22:12 - Mar 11 by Catullus |
General warring? What are you doing when discussing Western military action going back several presidents and Prime Minsters then? |
Me, I am not doing any posting on previous wars, you must be mixing me up with someone else.
I was just pointing out that you were comparing Putin to the west when the Afghan war was in the 1980s. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 13:33 - Mar 12 with 1687 views | Catullus |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:00 - Mar 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
Me, I am not doing any posting on previous wars, you must be mixing me up with someone else.
I was just pointing out that you were comparing Putin to the west when the Afghan war was in the 1980s. |
Yes, I mixed you up with Contro, sorry. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 13:48 - Mar 12 with 1668 views | Catullus |
Most of those links don't work for me. No surprise really. If there are any smoking guns laying around the guilty party will be trying to hide them.
So just for sake of argument accept there are biolabs for weapons in Ukraine, are they there with Ukraine's agreement, if yes then it's their choice as an independent country and none of Russia's business unless Ukraine uses them on Russia, has that happened?
Then lets ask, where does Russia have it's biolabs?
We all know chemical weapons exist and that the USA AND Russia have them. At the very least this is pots and kettles.
Some people are very busy finding Western guilt but what about Russian guilt? | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 14:22 - Mar 12 with 1657 views | Flashberryjack |
If nothing else, this thread has shown the true colours of some on here, they need to hang their heads in shame, if they had any. |  |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:59 - Mar 12 with 1604 views | Catullus |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 14:22 - Mar 12 by Flashberryjack |
If nothing else, this thread has shown the true colours of some on here, they need to hang their heads in shame, if they had any. |
Come the great reset these people will be the first to lose all their possessions and have computer chips inserted in their brains
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:00 - Mar 12 with 1602 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 13:48 - Mar 12 by Catullus |
Most of those links don't work for me. No surprise really. If there are any smoking guns laying around the guilty party will be trying to hide them.
So just for sake of argument accept there are biolabs for weapons in Ukraine, are they there with Ukraine's agreement, if yes then it's their choice as an independent country and none of Russia's business unless Ukraine uses them on Russia, has that happened?
Then lets ask, where does Russia have it's biolabs?
We all know chemical weapons exist and that the USA AND Russia have them. At the very least this is pots and kettles.
Some people are very busy finding Western guilt but what about Russian guilt? |
There are Russian bio labs mentioned in some of those links, especially the second to last one.
But there are international agreements that they do not do bio-weapons research, which means anyone doing them say they are just bio labs of course.
Almost any pathogen can be used to disrupt another countrys bio industry or even their population.
But the point is the USA blatantly lied to the UN and the rest of the world about the labs in Ukraine as the old documentation shows. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:15 - Mar 12 with 1594 views | Catullus |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:00 - Mar 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
There are Russian bio labs mentioned in some of those links, especially the second to last one.
But there are international agreements that they do not do bio-weapons research, which means anyone doing them say they are just bio labs of course.
Almost any pathogen can be used to disrupt another countrys bio industry or even their population.
But the point is the USA blatantly lied to the UN and the rest of the world about the labs in Ukraine as the old documentation shows. |
Yes lies are told, the USA lies just as all governments do. Russia has lied too. Which part of it justifies Russia's actions?
That's the point in the end. We can all point fingers at things done in the past, we can all say a lot of things but criticising the West, the USA or UK for things done in the past is all well and good but does it justify what Russia has done and is doing? | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:30 - Mar 12 with 1568 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:15 - Mar 12 by Catullus |
Yes lies are told, the USA lies just as all governments do. Russia has lied too. Which part of it justifies Russia's actions?
That's the point in the end. We can all point fingers at things done in the past, we can all say a lot of things but criticising the West, the USA or UK for things done in the past is all well and good but does it justify what Russia has done and is doing? |
No it doesn't and I haven't said it does.
I am merely clarifying points that are being discussed.
Nothing justifies his actions to those in the west, whether they do for Russians is another discussion all together. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 22:03 - Mar 12 with 1539 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:48 - Mar 12 by Scotia |
I certainly seem to be missing the wholesale slaughter of completely innocent people carried out by the US. Its not in that link.
You seem to think that's acceptable because it's done by Putin or you're just a bit stupid. |
You missed the hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghan? I always thought civilians were innocent, maybe i was wrong? | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 22:18 - Mar 12 with 1528 views | Dr_Winston |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 22:03 - Mar 12 by controversial_jack |
You missed the hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghan? I always thought civilians were innocent, maybe i was wrong? |
Most civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan were caused by other Moslems.
Don't think it was American NCO's detonating themselves in Baghdad marketplaces. |  |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 22:36 - Mar 12 with 1514 views | Professor |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:15 - Mar 12 by Catullus |
Yes lies are told, the USA lies just as all governments do. Russia has lied too. Which part of it justifies Russia's actions?
That's the point in the end. We can all point fingers at things done in the past, we can all say a lot of things but criticising the West, the USA or UK for things done in the past is all well and good but does it justify what Russia has done and is doing? |
All the whataboutery in the world does not justify Putin’s actions | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 02:26 - Mar 13 with 1472 views | DJack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:30 - Mar 11 by KeithHaynes |
Russia now happy to accept foreigners to fight for them for free.
Same as Ukraine ? |
*slow hand-clap* |  |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 04:44 - Mar 13 with 1462 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 13:07 - Mar 11 by Dr_Winston |
You do understand what a "National Grid" is do you? You do understand that it's not England's radioactive mud don't you? |
Wales could and should be 100 per cent renewable in circa 10 years with the right investments.
We do not want or need nuclear.
Nuclear waste lasts for many decades, so soon it wiil be Englands folly.
Its dangerous, a target for Putin, and Cymru does not need it. |  |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 07:53 - Mar 13 with 1439 views | Kilkennyjack |
Johnson is up to his neck in Russian money.
He just cant resist it can he ? | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:55 - Mar 13 with 1399 views | Catullus |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 07:53 - Mar 13 by Kilkennyjack |
Johnson is up to his neck in Russian money.
He just cant resist it can he ? |
He isn't the only Western European politician up to his neck in Russian money. Why do you think Germany initially opposed sanctions?
Then tell me, what does it change?
We have sanctions in place, we are sanctioning individuals as well, Abramovich, Tokarev etc and Russian politicians. The real issue is why are we still lagging on allowing refugees in?
This is shocking and disgraceful,
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/husband-drove-ukraine-wife-wales-2
Married 20 years and she was still struggling, what hope do refugees have in the face of such stupidity.
This is the real problem Kilky, lets face it, we all expect Bojo to act like a stupid, greedy, selfish idiot, because he is. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:06 - Mar 13 with 1389 views | Brynmill_Jack |
He’s quoting for all intents and purposes and American governmental “Senior Civil Servant” for Gods sake. What is the matter with you???
Oooa or whoever didn’t make her admit it!
Interestingly afterwards the quite rattled senator who asked the question then asked “given this information you think it’s 100% probable that the Russians would use these weaponised bio agents in a false flag attack”.
“Yes - it’s what the Russians do – do something and blame the other side for doing it” or WTTA.
Whose research is being done there? NATO member countries that whose!
Gulf of Tonkin incident, 45 minute sexed up dossier to facilitate full scale war without proof ring any bells? |  |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:08 - Mar 13 with 1383 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:48 - Mar 12 by Scotia |
I certainly seem to be missing the wholesale slaughter of completely innocent people carried out by the US. Its not in that link.
You seem to think that's acceptable because it's done by Putin or you're just a bit stupid. |
Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Yemen, Somalia…… | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:10 - Mar 13 with 1377 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 22:36 - Mar 12 by Professor |
All the whataboutery in the world does not justify Putin’s actions |
Neither does willful blindness. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:15 - Mar 13 with 1369 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 22:18 - Mar 12 by Dr_Winston |
Most civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan were caused by other Moslems.
Don't think it was American NCO's detonating themselves in Baghdad marketplaces. |
Well yeah, and they were always inevitable weren’t they even if the USA had attacked or not. If that’s what you’re asserting, that the invasion didn’t completely destabilize the country and throw it into a civil war well I beg to agree to disagree with you on that point.
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:17 - Mar 13 with 1363 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:55 - Mar 13 by Catullus |
He isn't the only Western European politician up to his neck in Russian money. Why do you think Germany initially opposed sanctions?
Then tell me, what does it change?
We have sanctions in place, we are sanctioning individuals as well, Abramovich, Tokarev etc and Russian politicians. The real issue is why are we still lagging on allowing refugees in?
This is shocking and disgraceful,
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/husband-drove-ukraine-wife-wales-2
Married 20 years and she was still struggling, what hope do refugees have in the face of such stupidity.
This is the real problem Kilky, lets face it, we all expect Bojo to act like a stupid, greedy, selfish idiot, because he is. |
Now THAT’s what I call whatabouttery ! | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:19 - Mar 13 with 1357 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:55 - Mar 13 by Catullus |
He isn't the only Western European politician up to his neck in Russian money. Why do you think Germany initially opposed sanctions?
Then tell me, what does it change?
We have sanctions in place, we are sanctioning individuals as well, Abramovich, Tokarev etc and Russian politicians. The real issue is why are we still lagging on allowing refugees in?
This is shocking and disgraceful,
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/husband-drove-ukraine-wife-wales-2
Married 20 years and she was still struggling, what hope do refugees have in the face of such stupidity.
This is the real problem Kilky, lets face it, we all expect Bojo to act like a stupid, greedy, selfish idiot, because he is. |
“This is the real problem Kilky, lets face it, we all expect Bojo to act like a stupid, greedy, selfish idiot, because he is.”
That’s just about sums up the apathy and acquiescence of sum posters on here. For shame. | |
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