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Russia invade Ukraine 14:17 - Dec 23 with 204844 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Discuss.

Also why is Putin always described in the media as this rugged strongman? He’s barely five foot tall with his high heels on.

But that’s another debate.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 19:30 - Jul 1 with 2167 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 12:21 - Jul 1 by controversial_jack

Why would they give grain to hostile countries?

Has the Ukraine removed all the mines from their ports ?


Still not answering the questions why Russia's modern missiles are so inaccurate.

Good to see the Russians exchanging 180 POW even though they are not at war and none of their troops have been captured ,they all retreated in an orderly fashion ftom Kyiv.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:29 - Jul 2 with 2104 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 19:30 - Jul 1 by felixstowe_jack

Still not answering the questions why Russia's modern missiles are so inaccurate.

Good to see the Russians exchanging 180 POW even though they are not at war and none of their troops have been captured ,they all retreated in an orderly fashion ftom Kyiv.


Yes, they did retreat in good order.The same in Kharkov. Russian troops around the city, retreated, and of course the Ukraine claimed that to be a victory. Ukrainian forces, including the Kraken unit - other Neo Nazi one, perused the Russian troops, they didn't see the trap, but came out of their well dug in positions to do this and left themselves isolated in open ground and in some of the small deserted villages they claimed to have liberated. This left them to be picked off by Russian artillery and virtually destroyed.All part of the Russian plan to de Nazify the Military and probably to destroy it entirely
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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:19 - Jul 2 with 2092 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 10:29 - Jul 2 by controversial_jack

Yes, they did retreat in good order.The same in Kharkov. Russian troops around the city, retreated, and of course the Ukraine claimed that to be a victory. Ukrainian forces, including the Kraken unit - other Neo Nazi one, perused the Russian troops, they didn't see the trap, but came out of their well dug in positions to do this and left themselves isolated in open ground and in some of the small deserted villages they claimed to have liberated. This left them to be picked off by Russian artillery and virtually destroyed.All part of the Russian plan to de Nazify the Military and probably to destroy it entirely


Why did Russia sacrifice over half its elite regiment on their aborted attack on Kyiv. Why are Russia trying yo prosecute aid workers as mercaneries.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 16:05 - Jul 2 with 2072 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 11:19 - Jul 2 by felixstowe_jack

Why did Russia sacrifice over half its elite regiment on their aborted attack on Kyiv. Why are Russia trying yo prosecute aid workers as mercaneries.
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They didn't
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Russia invade Ukraine on 16:10 - Jul 2 with 2072 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 16:05 - Jul 2 by controversial_jack

They didn't


Then hey are Russian sites posting photos of the dead soldiers over 100 from one regiment
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Russia invade Ukraine on 17:09 - Jul 2 with 2051 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 16:10 - Jul 2 by felixstowe_jack

Then hey are Russian sites posting photos of the dead soldiers over 100 from one regiment
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A regiment can contain up to 2000 troops.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:55 - Jul 4 with 1925 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 17:09 - Jul 2 by controversial_jack

A regiment can contain up to 2000 troops.


A regiment usually contains between 600 and 1000.
Given that Russia has consistently under reported deaths by 50% the means their elite regiment has lost 200 soldiers plus another 400 seriously injured. Usual deaths to seriously injured is 2:1

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Russia invade Ukraine on 19:57 - Jul 4 with 1911 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 18:55 - Jul 4 by felixstowe_jack

A regiment usually contains between 600 and 1000.
Given that Russia has consistently under reported deaths by 50% the means their elite regiment has lost 200 soldiers plus another 400 seriously injured. Usual deaths to seriously injured is 2:1


Just a point , a regiment normally consists of Battalions and in the battalions which have up to a 1000 ( dependant if its on a war footing ) . The Regiment believe you're discussing is 331st Guards Parachute regiment which was decimated trying to take Kiev , this was announced openly on T a Russian state TV channel , also many relatives of those killed "
On the memorial wall shown on Vkontakte ( a social media outlet ), for example for Sergeant Sergei Duganov, one woman wrote: "Nobody knows anything. The 331st regiment is disappearing. Almost every day, photos of our Kostroma boys get published. It sends shivers down my spine. What's happening? When will this end? When will people stop dying?"

Her post was followed by another, which exclaimed: "Kostroma has lost so many young men, what a tragedy". Another pleaded: "God, how many more death notifications shall we receive? Please have mercy on our boys, help them survive, return them back home to their wives and mothers. I'm begging you!"

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Russia invade Ukraine on 21:29 - Jul 4 with 1891 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 18:55 - Jul 4 by felixstowe_jack

A regiment usually contains between 600 and 1000.
Given that Russia has consistently under reported deaths by 50% the means their elite regiment has lost 200 soldiers plus another 400 seriously injured. Usual deaths to seriously injured is 2:1


No, that's a battalion
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Russia invade Ukraine on 12:30 - Jul 5 with 1841 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 16:05 - Jul 2 by controversial_jack

They didn't


Correct. Nowhere near.

The BBC stated 4 days ago that the 331st Parachute regiment has lost in total 65 men. Our Paras, when assaulting the Merville German Gun Battery during the D Day operation lost 75 men, half its compliment. Paras are high risk soldiers often in high risk situations. It's not a surprise to see such losses, maybe some might say a little on the light side given the circumstances.

Here are the names of the deceased (again from the BBC) :-

The BBC has so far verified the deaths of 62 soldiers from the 331st Guards Parachute regiment: Klim Abramov, Snr Lt Rustem Akhmedyanov, Viktor Baranchikov, Oleg Bedoshvili, Capt (Co Cdr) Yurii Borisov, Snr Lt Ilya Chernyshev, Cpl Yuri Degtaryov, Konstantin Dobrynin, Sasha Dolkin, Maksim Dubov, Sgt Sergei Duganov, Sgt Andrey Dunayev, Kiril Fedoseyev, Artur Imangulov, Lt Yury Inkin, Maksim Ivanov, Snr Lt Nikolai Kirkin, Andrey Kovalevsky, Maj Sergei Krylov, Utemes Kuanshpekov, Artem Kuprichenko, Stanislav Kutelev, Sergey Lebedev, Cpl Yanosh Leonov, Sgt Alexander Limonov, Snr WO Sergei Lobachyo, Nikita Lomakin, Pavel Makarov, Artem Makhov, Cpl Ivan Mamzurin, Cpl Ilya Martynenko, Oleg Melnikov, Comdr Vadim Netuzhilov, Sgt Aleksandr Nikitin, Alexey Ostanin, Lt Lev Ovchinnikov, Maksim Ovchinnikov, Cpl Leonid Panteleyev, Maj Oleg Patskalyev, Sgt Stanislav Petrutik, Cpl Zakhar Polevschikov, Sgt Roman Pomelov, Dmitry Prokopov, Snr WO Pavel Rudenko, Snr Lt Alexander Shalygin, Aleksey Shevelev, Egor Shukhov, Col Sergei Sukharev, Maj Evgeny Sulokhin, Maxim Svetlenko, Snr Lt Nikolai Symov, Daniil Titov, Maxim Trokai, Danil Turapov, Ivan Turyev, Snr Lt Andrei Vashkov, Sgt Maxim Vorotyntsev, Capt Alexei Vyshegorodtsev, Alexei Yelimov, Cpl Artem Yergin, Sgt Ravshan Zhakbaev, Cpl Danila Zudkov

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Russia invade Ukraine on 12:54 - Jul 5 with 1825 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Haas anyone seen an update on the Kremenchuk shopping mall attack? All I can find are the original figures of 18 dead, 59 injured, 25 hospitalised and 36 missing?

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Russia invade Ukraine on 12:54 - Jul 5 with 1824 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia has taken this latest city with comparative ease, which suggests the Ukrainian military is losing effectiveness and motivation
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Russia invade Ukraine on 12:59 - Jul 5 with 1812 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 12:30 - Jul 5 by Brynmill_Jack

Correct. Nowhere near.

The BBC stated 4 days ago that the 331st Parachute regiment has lost in total 65 men. Our Paras, when assaulting the Merville German Gun Battery during the D Day operation lost 75 men, half its compliment. Paras are high risk soldiers often in high risk situations. It's not a surprise to see such losses, maybe some might say a little on the light side given the circumstances.

Here are the names of the deceased (again from the BBC) :-

The BBC has so far verified the deaths of 62 soldiers from the 331st Guards Parachute regiment: Klim Abramov, Snr Lt Rustem Akhmedyanov, Viktor Baranchikov, Oleg Bedoshvili, Capt (Co Cdr) Yurii Borisov, Snr Lt Ilya Chernyshev, Cpl Yuri Degtaryov, Konstantin Dobrynin, Sasha Dolkin, Maksim Dubov, Sgt Sergei Duganov, Sgt Andrey Dunayev, Kiril Fedoseyev, Artur Imangulov, Lt Yury Inkin, Maksim Ivanov, Snr Lt Nikolai Kirkin, Andrey Kovalevsky, Maj Sergei Krylov, Utemes Kuanshpekov, Artem Kuprichenko, Stanislav Kutelev, Sergey Lebedev, Cpl Yanosh Leonov, Sgt Alexander Limonov, Snr WO Sergei Lobachyo, Nikita Lomakin, Pavel Makarov, Artem Makhov, Cpl Ivan Mamzurin, Cpl Ilya Martynenko, Oleg Melnikov, Comdr Vadim Netuzhilov, Sgt Aleksandr Nikitin, Alexey Ostanin, Lt Lev Ovchinnikov, Maksim Ovchinnikov, Cpl Leonid Panteleyev, Maj Oleg Patskalyev, Sgt Stanislav Petrutik, Cpl Zakhar Polevschikov, Sgt Roman Pomelov, Dmitry Prokopov, Snr WO Pavel Rudenko, Snr Lt Alexander Shalygin, Aleksey Shevelev, Egor Shukhov, Col Sergei Sukharev, Maj Evgeny Sulokhin, Maxim Svetlenko, Snr Lt Nikolai Symov, Daniil Titov, Maxim Trokai, Danil Turapov, Ivan Turyev, Snr Lt Andrei Vashkov, Sgt Maxim Vorotyntsev, Capt Alexei Vyshegorodtsev, Alexei Yelimov, Cpl Artem Yergin, Sgt Ravshan Zhakbaev, Cpl Danila Zudkov


Dad'sArmy 76 dishonouring the dead. What a sorry excuse for a human being. If he had anything about him he'd join the discussion.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 13:31 - Jul 5 with 1791 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 12:54 - Jul 5 by Brynmill_Jack

Haas anyone seen an update on the Kremenchuk shopping mall attack? All I can find are the original figures of 18 dead, 59 injured, 25 hospitalised and 36 missing?


No, that's gone quiet
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Russia invade Ukraine on 13:08 - Jul 6 with 1719 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 13:31 - Jul 5 by controversial_jack

No, that's gone quiet


Any incident like that (on either side) should be reported where civilians are killed or injured. That's what journalism is all about.

The lack of any kind of consistent follow up shows more care is directed at the shock factor reporting of the strike itself for condemnation purposes and little care for those killed or injured as a result.
Did they find those missing people alive or dead? Did the hospitalised pull through?

This is typical of the non journalism which has plagued the entire conflict not just from February 24th but also way before.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 13:41 - Jul 6 with 1700 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 13:08 - Jul 6 by Brynmill_Jack

Any incident like that (on either side) should be reported where civilians are killed or injured. That's what journalism is all about.

The lack of any kind of consistent follow up shows more care is directed at the shock factor reporting of the strike itself for condemnation purposes and little care for those killed or injured as a result.
Did they find those missing people alive or dead? Did the hospitalised pull through?

This is typical of the non journalism which has plagued the entire conflict not just from February 24th but also way before.


They showed pics of the Mall destroyed, but not of the factory right next to it that was thought to have been a weapons store
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Russia invade Ukraine on 14:59 - Jul 6 with 1683 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 13:41 - Jul 6 by controversial_jack

They showed pics of the Mall destroyed, but not of the factory right next to it that was thought to have been a weapons store


Perhaps that was the intended target and they missed?

My point is - why cover half the story when there could be up to 40 people trapped in the rubble? Isn't the media interested in their outcome or is it enough just to say "look at this, Russians bomb a shopping mall" - then forget about it like it never happened.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:41 - Jul 7 with 1617 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 14:59 - Jul 6 by Brynmill_Jack

Perhaps that was the intended target and they missed?

My point is - why cover half the story when there could be up to 40 people trapped in the rubble? Isn't the media interested in their outcome or is it enough just to say "look at this, Russians bomb a shopping mall" - then forget about it like it never happened.


It probably was the intended target. Russian cruise missiles are very accurate, but this Mall was just yards from the factory. I didn't see many cars in this mall car park either, not if there were 1,000 shoppers there
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Russia invade Ukraine on 01:33 - Jul 8 with 1564 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 09:41 - Jul 7 by controversial_jack

It probably was the intended target. Russian cruise missiles are very accurate, but this Mall was just yards from the factory. I didn't see many cars in this mall car park either, not if there were 1,000 shoppers there


If there were the reporting would be non stop. I still dislike the indecent haste with which the story was dropped - like the victims no longer mattered.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 00:55 - Jul 9 with 1469 viewsBrynmill_Jack

A lecture from John Mearsheimer from 2015 over the then current state of affairs in the Ukraine and what was to blame. A good watch for the open minded.


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Russia invade Ukraine on 14:34 - Jul 14 with 1352 viewsdeanscfc



No additional words needed.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 14:43 - Jul 14 with 1339 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 00:55 - Jul 9 by Brynmill_Jack

A lecture from John Mearsheimer from 2015 over the then current state of affairs in the Ukraine and what was to blame. A good watch for the open minded.



O the irony

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Russia invade Ukraine on 15:09 - Jul 14 with 1318 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Russia invade Ukraine on 00:55 - Jul 9 by Brynmill_Jack

A lecture from John Mearsheimer from 2015 over the then current state of affairs in the Ukraine and what was to blame. A good watch for the open minded.



Again, the mental gymnastics that these nutters can perform is phenomenally impressive.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 16:12 - Jul 14 with 1302 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 01:33 - Jul 8 by Brynmill_Jack

If there were the reporting would be non stop. I still dislike the indecent haste with which the story was dropped - like the victims no longer mattered.


As if you care ffs cry me a river

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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:06 - Jul 14 with 1270 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 16:12 - Jul 14 by Boundy

As if you care ffs cry me a river


So you’re not bothered about a possible war crime then? Or do you have the attention span of a gnat, easily triggered but equally easily distracted by somebody jangling some keys in front of you?

Or don’t you believe the story ??

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