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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? 17:30 - Jan 20 with 5282 viewsSwansIndependent

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 23:42 - Jan 21 with 922 viewsSTID2017

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 21:32 - Jan 20 by Chief

It was an answer to a question I was asked.

Yes I am aware of what Winter stated previously and increasing the CLN is a viable source for where this money has come from.

If it is, why the secrecy? They announced the initial loan openly in the press.

And this hasn't been confirmed by the article author and Keith stated he didn't think the money is from a loan (it's still unknown if he considers the CLN a loan like I do).

So that's your theory, but I'd still like clarification.


Strange that you keep pressing for clarification.
I liken Keith ( and Phil Sumbler ) to journalists on mainstream news media.
It is pretty obvious they both have sources ITK and get the heads up on events within the club.
Equally they pay due diligence to what is sensible to reveal on an open forum and what to keep in confidence.
I have no idea how much KH knows about the financial inner workings of the club and how much is his take on the situation.
One thing for sure is that if he did go above and beyond in his revelations, his sources would soon dry up.
It seems that having a relatively financially well run club ( compared to Derby, Bolton, etc ) is not enough for some on here or elsewhere on social media.
The excellent signings made in the past two windows ( plus some before by the previous incumbent) seem to do little to sway the doom mongers out there.
Sad that some live with the glass half empty when it comes to all things Swans

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 00:06 - Jan 22 with 899 viewsBillyChong

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 23:42 - Jan 21 by STID2017

Strange that you keep pressing for clarification.
I liken Keith ( and Phil Sumbler ) to journalists on mainstream news media.
It is pretty obvious they both have sources ITK and get the heads up on events within the club.
Equally they pay due diligence to what is sensible to reveal on an open forum and what to keep in confidence.
I have no idea how much KH knows about the financial inner workings of the club and how much is his take on the situation.
One thing for sure is that if he did go above and beyond in his revelations, his sources would soon dry up.
It seems that having a relatively financially well run club ( compared to Derby, Bolton, etc ) is not enough for some on here or elsewhere on social media.
The excellent signings made in the past two windows ( plus some before by the previous incumbent) seem to do little to sway the doom mongers out there.
Sad that some live with the glass half empty when it comes to all things Swans


It’s in everyone’s interest to remain vigilant with the likes of Derby and Bolton in mind. Unless you know the confirmed plans around the loan conversions? It was suggested on here this week that there’s a 5 year plan on this arrangement. 5 years ago to the day we won at Anfield, and have gone backwards since. It’s a debt/risk.
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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 09:47 - Jan 22 with 837 viewsChief

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 23:42 - Jan 21 by STID2017

Strange that you keep pressing for clarification.
I liken Keith ( and Phil Sumbler ) to journalists on mainstream news media.
It is pretty obvious they both have sources ITK and get the heads up on events within the club.
Equally they pay due diligence to what is sensible to reveal on an open forum and what to keep in confidence.
I have no idea how much KH knows about the financial inner workings of the club and how much is his take on the situation.
One thing for sure is that if he did go above and beyond in his revelations, his sources would soon dry up.
It seems that having a relatively financially well run club ( compared to Derby, Bolton, etc ) is not enough for some on here or elsewhere on social media.
The excellent signings made in the past two windows ( plus some before by the previous incumbent) seem to do little to sway the doom mongers out there.
Sad that some live with the glass half empty when it comes to all things Swans


It's not strange at all. Why would it be strange for a fan of a football club that has had financial difficulties in the past to enquire about these things? I would do exactly the same if a mainstream media journalist posted on here and had an account.

Well they know enough to have posted those comments in an article. No other parties know about this injection of cash including the club's second largest shareholder the trust. So why is this injection so secretive and is it compliant? At the very least it shows yet more dissention and disfunction amongst the club's shareholders. If accurate of course.

That's the thing that people are missing. I'm not really passing judgement on the cash injection. I don't think anyone can until more information is given. If this is a loan with extortionate interest purely to sign players that lets face it aren't essential that means the club is gambling with money it hasn't got, would you still maintain we're still run well?

Alternatively, there could be a perfectly viable explanation - maybe this is an installment of the original loan, or an installment of the Rodon money and the article was just worded in a slightly misleading manner.

So we can't pass judgement either way unless the article author decides to avail us of it.

But why the secrecy?

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 10:26 - Jan 22 with 798 viewsKeithHaynes

I think the thread title has come to fruition.

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 11:20 - Jan 22 with 752 viewsraynor94

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 10:26 - Jan 22 by KeithHaynes

I think the thread title has come to fruition.


100% agree

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 11:53 - Jan 22 with 727 viewsChief

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 10:26 - Jan 22 by KeithHaynes

I think the thread title has come to fruition.


In what sense?

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 11:57 - Jan 22 with 720 viewsCatullus

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 10:26 - Jan 22 by KeithHaynes

I think the thread title has come to fruition.


Nah, your making that up to suit your own narrative

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:16 - Jan 22 with 694 viewsmagicdaps10

I think this post and another one currently going shows how obsessive and controlling some posters are being.

Its only football or tennis for God's sake! Take the hint and there are no prizes for having the last word.

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:17 - Jan 22 with 673 viewsonehunglow

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 11:57 - Jan 22 by Catullus

Nah, your making that up to suit your own narrative


Narrative is a word that has been reserected (sic) almost as much a negative,positive.

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:18 - Jan 22 with 690 viewsraynor94

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 11:53 - Jan 22 by Chief

In what sense?


If the cap fits, you did the same thing on the other board

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:21 - Jan 22 with 687 viewsChief

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:18 - Jan 22 by raynor94

If the cap fits, you did the same thing on the other board


Can specifically state what you are talking about please?

I don't know everyone's got to be so ambiguous. If you've got something to say, say it. The innuendo and insinuation just wastes everyone's time
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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:25 - Jan 22 with 677 viewsCatullus

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:21 - Jan 22 by Chief

Can specifically state what you are talking about please?

I don't know everyone's got to be so ambiguous. If you've got something to say, say it. The innuendo and insinuation just wastes everyone's time
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But innuendo and insinuation are more fun!

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:28 - Jan 22 with 673 viewsChief

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:25 - Jan 22 by Catullus

But innuendo and insinuation are more fun!


Yes it appears that way

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:30 - Jan 22 with 671 viewsraynor94

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:21 - Jan 22 by Chief

Can specifically state what you are talking about please?

I don't know everyone's got to be so ambiguous. If you've got something to say, say it. The innuendo and insinuation just wastes everyone's time
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Your constant carping about the owners, always looking for an ulteria motive, and let's not go to your spats with resloven hijacking threads

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:39 - Jan 22 with 662 viewsChief

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 12:30 - Jan 22 by raynor94

Your constant carping about the owners, always looking for an ulteria motive, and let's not go to your spats with resloven hijacking threads


False sorry, simply incorrect.

Because say in asking for clarification for this information (this all I've done by the way - quoting word for word what was stated in the article), it could come that it is all above board and great for the club.

Now that wouldn't look particularly great for my so called agenda now would it!?

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 13:07 - Jan 22 with 639 viewsmax936

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 11:57 - Jan 22 by Catullus

Nah, your making that up to suit your own narrative



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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 14:12 - Jan 22 with 574 viewsMargam

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 11:57 - Jan 22 by Catullus

Nah, your making that up to suit your own narrative


It’s an odd world. I dont know any of this shit on here but chief certainly likes a chat.
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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 14:22 - Jan 22 with 559 viewsKeithHaynes

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 11:57 - Jan 22 by Catullus

Nah, your making that up to suit your own narrative


How dare you !
Stealing my narrative like that to support your own narrative ! 😂

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 14:25 - Jan 22 with 554 viewsChief

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 14:12 - Jan 22 by Margam

It’s an odd world. I dont know any of this shit on here but chief certainly likes a chat.
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Absolutely. Problem is no one's talking. And unfortunately there's some that expect me to act like a mushroom 🍄
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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 14:36 - Jan 22 with 536 viewsNotLoyal

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 14:25 - Jan 22 by Chief

Absolutely. Problem is no one's talking. And unfortunately there's some that expect me to act like a mushroom 🍄
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You keep asking questions if you think they need asking but stating an article was misleading was again foolish and won’t win you many allies.

OK I've changed it.
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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 17:20 - Jan 22 with 502 viewsChief

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 14:36 - Jan 22 by NotLoyal

You keep asking questions if you think they need asking but stating an article was misleading was again foolish and won’t win you many allies.


I don't think I have said it's misleading have I?

Without knowing the full picture it's impossible to say whether anyone was misled.

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 18:37 - Jan 22 with 459 viewsAndyCole

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 17:20 - Jan 22 by Chief

I don't think I have said it's misleading have I?

Without knowing the full picture it's impossible to say whether anyone was misled.


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It's baffling how you always seem to only just ask questions, and think that's ok. On a football fans forum. Where opinions and thought leadership is the modus operandi.

Give it a bash, share your opinions, thought leadership and solutions - instead of your usual multiple choice style questioning. It's tediously wearing, in so many ways, for many proper posters.

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 18:45 - Jan 22 with 456 viewsChief

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 18:37 - Jan 22 by AndyCole

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It's baffling how you always seem to only just ask questions, and think that's ok. On a football fans forum. Where opinions and thought leadership is the modus operandi.

Give it a bash, share your opinions, thought leadership and solutions - instead of your usual multiple choice style questioning. It's tediously wearing, in so many ways, for many proper posters.

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Is it not ok to ask questions then? Do forums not permit questions?

The reason I've been asking questions is gain enough information with which to form an opinion.

I know others prefer to take people's word for it that everything is fine dandy and above board, and that's fine for them. In a way i envy them.

But I'll prod for more information where I deem necessary.

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 19:09 - Jan 22 with 432 viewsCatullus

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 14:22 - Jan 22 by KeithHaynes

How dare you !
Stealing my narrative like that to support your own narrative ! 😂


Ok then, you can have your narrative back. I apologise profusely, or a whole heck of a lot, whichever is more

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Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 19:41 - Jan 22 with 409 viewsKeithHaynes

Are people making things up to suit their own narrative ? on 19:09 - Jan 22 by Catullus

Ok then, you can have your narrative back. I apologise profusely, or a whole heck of a lot, whichever is more


Now you are taking your narrative and using it against my narrative on a new narrative that nobody is yet aware of. That’s a completely unfair way of doing things in any narrative.

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